Yeah those guys were just as instrumental in winnings premierships as Norm Smith medalists, best & fairest players and in some cases some of the best players to ever play for their clubs in Mcleod, Hodge, Mitchell, Lloyd, Bell etc.
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Yeah those guys were just as instrumental in winnings premierships as Norm Smith medalists, best & fairest players and in some cases some of the best players to ever play for their clubs in Mcleod, Hodge, Mitchell, Lloyd, Bell etc.
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Bit Harsh, Fremantle needed mature Bodies and not 16 year olds. Plus i don't think Fremantle ever had access to Lloyd in their situation
Carlton win this thread. Stephen O'Reilly for a 1st and 3rd round pick. He was on a big contract too, which helped contribute to salary cap pressure that a)saw Aaron Hamill leave a year later, and b)led to us trying to pay some older blokes who stuck around longer than expected (after we unexpectedly made the gf) in brown paper bags -leading to massivr salary cap fines and loss of picks.
You can make a solid case O'Reilly directly cost a 1st and 3rd round pick + Hamill, and indirectly cost 3 more 1st round picks and a 2nd rounder plus a million dollar fine
He played 12 games for us and then retired
You can make a solid case O'Reilly directly cost a 1st and 3rd round pick + Hamill, and indirectly cost 3 more 1st round picks and a 2nd rounder plus a million dollar fine
He played 12 games for us and then retired
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My understanding of this one is that they never had access to him. Clubs who lost players to Freo were compensated by being able to pick a 16 year old. Essendon were shrewd and pushed a couple out to get a pick. They were the lowest on the ladder out of clubs who lost players, therefore they got first choice and wisely selected Lloyd.
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West Coast did a similar thing in 1996, we traded Shane Bond and Brayden Lyle to Port for peanuts in return for them signing Ian Downsborough as an uncontracted player and not signing any players from teams below us, allowing us to get pick 1 which netted Gardiner.
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Two AAs whilst playing at the Hawks.
Pretty much. That was how the compo system worked at the time. The club receiving to compo pick could choose a 16 year old - effectively raiding the next year's draft. The 16 year old were not available to Freo.
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Dunno what SOS was thinking here, Palmer isn't an underrated depth player and Carlton are literally just taking on a big contract for no reason.
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Yeah those guys were just as instrumental in winnings premierships as Norm Smith medalists, best & fairest players and in some cases some of the best players to ever play for their clubs in Mcleod, Hodge, Mitchell, Lloyd, Bell etc.
Sorry Paul Symonns and Jeremy Dwyer and Michael Prior couldn't get you over the line in those years.
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Possibly to meet the minimum salary cap requirement? Or just doing GWS a favour for giving Carlton two former top 10 picks for scraps?
Also, +1 for Stephen O'Reilly being the worst trade ever. Took the club nearly 15 years to recover from that...
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Paddy Veszpremi for Andrejs Everitt was a lose lose thing.
What did Geelong get for trading Greg Williams to Sydney? Whatever it was, it was not enough
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If Tippet was a trade then that
If not, Judd and Fev were both terrible
If not, Judd and Fev were both terrible
You wouldn't pick up the best forward/ruck in the league for free?
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We had guys like Clape, Connell and Laidley leave due to lack of opportunities in a strong team, and go on to find success elsewhere.
As opposed to Freo, who let guys like Bell, Burton, McLeod go for whatever reason and saw them have success elsewhere while they continued propping up the ladder.
Not sure why you'd want to push the topic...
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Tippet's a joke right now, his contract just cost them Tom Mitchell, he's ruined the club for a decade.
If Franklin was a trade it would be right up there.
The whole 2005 North trade period involving Hay wins.
Lose a pick 8 Motlop after 47 games and picks 13, 18, 29. Motlop was a pick 8 received in the Peter Bell trade.
Get Hay 8 games, freaking 4 game Dan McConnell, Mark Powell who never played and wanted to throw himself in a ditch preseason, Rawlings 3 games.
Meanwhile some of the picks that passed hands were used on Hurn and Birchall.
The only thing North achieved was somehow getting a player Rawlings and a pick upgrade from the Dogs for pick 46 where pick 43 ended up as Swallow who was very good pre injury.
Lose a pick 8 Motlop after 47 games and picks 13, 18, 29. Motlop was a pick 8 received in the Peter Bell trade.
Get Hay 8 games, freaking 4 game Dan McConnell, Mark Powell who never played and wanted to throw himself in a ditch preseason, Rawlings 3 games.
Meanwhile some of the picks that passed hands were used on Hurn and Birchall.
The only thing North achieved was somehow getting a player Rawlings and a pick upgrade from the Dogs for pick 46 where pick 43 ended up as Swallow who was very good pre injury.
Ruined the club for a decade?
Geez if making GF and Prelim finals every year is ruining the club then I am sure a lot more clubs would be looking to do similar trades.
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Doesn't matter which way you spin it the Stephen O'Reilly trade by Carlton will forever and a day be the worst trade in VFL/AFL history
As pointed out by Weaver long ago:
As pointed out by Weaver long ago:
Geelong / Freo, did the Blues in !!!!!.
Liam Jones to Carlton for pick 46 - Caleb Daniel, alias little Diego. He will be the next footy God. I predict Little Diego to be a super star when he gets a bit of bit and strenght. still a teddy bear imo. wait till he gets the muscles of a mature footballer. absolute genius of a footballer. though, i miss liam jones. no flogs at the moment on our list. though cloke could become one, ...
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Ive forgotten, how much did we pay you to take him again?
Would you still want to have him?
