This decades Greatest Player

[person077]

does everyone always forget a man called Robert Harvey!?

 

[bannersgal]

Ben Cousins 2000-2006
1998-1999 seasons not included.
From pro-stats.com.au

Captain 2001-2005
Club B/F: 4 (2001)(2002) (2003) (2005)
Brownlow medals: 1 (2005)
NormSmith medals: Nil
Goals: 97
Games: 134
Possesions: 3,343
Brownlow votes: 124
Clearances: 585
F50 entries: 700
Tackles: 253

Also:
All Australian 2001, 2002, 2005 (Vice-captain)
AFLPA MVP 2005
Finals: 5
Premierships: Nil

Cousins will be 28 on 30 June 2006.

 

[bannersgal]

Mark Ricciuto 2000-2006
Earlier seasons not included.
From pro-stats.com.au

Club Captain: 2001 - 2006
Club B/F: 2003, 2004
Brownlow medals: 1 (2003), Runner up 2004
Norm Smith medals: Nil
Goals: 172
Games: 146
Possesions: 3,275
Brownlow votes: 136
Clearances: 510
F50 entries: 713
Tackles: 503

Also:

All Australian 2000, 2002, 2003, 2004 (captain), 2005 (captain)
Inetrnational series player 2000
AFLPA Best Captain 2005
Finals: 9?
Premierships: Nil

Roo turned 31 this year last Thursday on June 8, 2006.

 

[KUNG FU]

Roo played the grand final in 98. And almost every game up until the GF in 97. That counts for a lot.

 

[Jimthegreat]

Jonathon Brown

 

[wce4premiership]

Rucuuito averages:
Club Captain: 2001 - 2006
Club B/F: 2003, 2004
Brownlow medals: 1 (2003), Runner up 2004
Norm Smith medals: Nil
Goals: 1.17
Games: 146
Possesions: 22.43
Brownlow votes: 0.93
Clearances: 3.49
F50 entries: 4.88
Tackles: 3.44

All Australian 2000, 2002, 2003, 2004 (captain), 2005 (captain)
AFLPA Best Captain 2005
Finals: 9?


Ben cousins averages:
Captain 2001-2005
Club B/F: 4 (2001)(2002) (2003) (2005)
Brownlow medals: 1 (2005)
NormSmith medals: Nil
Goals: 0.72
Games: 134
Possesions: 24.94
Brownlow votes: 0.92
Clearances: 4.36
F50 entries: 5.22
Tackles: 1.88

All Australian 2001, 2002, 2005 (Vice-captain)
AFLPA MVP 2005
Finals: 5
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Nathan buckley averages:
Club B/F: 2 (2000)(2003)
Brownlow medals: 1 (2003)
Goals:1.04
Games:121
Possesions:25.12
Brownlow votes:0.63
Clearances:4.15
F50 entries:6.06
Tackles:3.19


cheers to banners girl for the stats before...appreciated

 

[RogerRabbit69]

Don't know about the rest of the stats - but Ricciuto's been an All-Australian 8 times.

 

[DG-Man]

Yeah, Roo is a rockstar. Apart from Voss, i can't name another player who has been better than him and is still playing. He is along side Hird, Buckley, Harvs, Dustin Fletcher.

PS - Joke about Fletch. Was just feling loyal!

 

[worthy]

What about this bloke. I'd give to to him, hard to top a bloke who's captained 3 premiership sides, won the B&F in 2 of those years (second in the other).

CLUB AWARDS & HONOURS:
Winner Bears/Lions B&F 1995-96-00-01-03, 2nd 2002, 4th 2004
Lions Co-Captain 1997-98-99-00, Sole Captain 2001-02-03-04-05
Premiership Player 2001-02-03 (Captain), Lions Best Finals Player 2002.

AFL AWARDS: Brownlow Medal 1996, 9th 1995, 3rd 2001, E3rd 2002, All-Australian 1996-99-01-02-03, (Vice-Captain 2001, Captain 2002, 2003), AFLPA MVP Runner-Up 2001, Winner 2002, 2003, AFLPA Best Captain 2000-02, Most Courageous Player 2001.

REPRESENTATIVE HONOURS: Queensland State of Origin 1992, Qld/NT State of Origin 1993, Allies State of Origin 1996, Queensland Team of the Century captain 2003.

MEDIA AWARDS: ABC Player of the Year 1996, Sunday Age/3AW Player of the Year 1996, Age Player of the Year 2001-02, ABC Player of the Year 2001, 3AW Player of the Year 2001, Channel 9 Player of the Year 2001, Australian Football Media Association Player of the Year 2001.

Michael Voss.

That's it right there, the best player 00-06. 2 club B&F and 2 AFL MVP awards in premiership years, Buckley is a champion but he doesn't get close to that.
Would Buckley swap his Brownlow for a B&F in a premiership team? in a flash.
Fair to say Buckley is currently playing better Footy than Voss though.

 

[skilts]

.
Fair to say Buckley is currently playing better Footy than Voss though.

Still goes missing in important games like last weekend though. At least he's consistent.

 

[Bring-Back-Powell]

Nigel Lappin

 

[doppleganger]

Still goes missing in important games like last weekend though. At least he's consistent.

why was last weekend an important game?

run o the mill h&a season game

performs when it matters, he has played in 3GF'S and has been BOG in two of them, in his teams best in the other game

queens bday may be a big game for melbourne fans, not really that big in real terms tho

 

[the_messiah]

Robert Harvey, a quiet acheiver.
He has won just about every award (bar a premiership).

Including Player honours: Brownlow Medal 1997, 1998; best and fairest 1992, 1994, 1997, 1998; 2nd best and fairest 2000, 2003; 3rd best and fairest 1990, 1993, 1996, 1999; All-Australian 1992, 1994, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2003; International Rules Series 1998; EJ Whitten Medal 1992, 1993, 1996; AFLPA MVP 1997; Michael Tuck Medal 2004; pre-season premiership sides 1996, 2004; captain 2001-02.

Copy pasted off the saints website. Has been the saints biggest impact, some recent performences was his match winning against Adelaide in Last years qualifying Final.

 

[Grimreepah]

performs when it matters, he has played in 3GF'S and has been BOG in two of them, in his teams best in the other game

Are you including preseason comps?

The Melbourne match I would argue was an important match for Collingwood because it is was a chance to prove that they can beat top 8 sides.

 

[mudgeathon]

Robert Harvey, a quiet acheiver.
He has won just about every award (bar a premiership).

Including Player honours: Brownlow Medal 1997, 1998; best and fairest 1992, 1994, 1997, 1998; 2nd best and fairest 2000, 2003; 3rd best and fairest 1990, 1993, 1996, 1999; All-Australian 1992, 1994, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2003; International Rules Series 1998; EJ Whitten Medal 1992, 1993, 1996; AFLPA MVP 1997; Michael Tuck Medal 2004; pre-season premiership sides 1996, 2004; captain 2001-02.

Copy pasted off the saints website. Has been the saints biggest impact, some recent performences was his match winning against Adelaide in Last years qualifying Final.

No doubting how good Harvey is, but this thread is from 2000 onwards.

 

[LasCar]

Rucuuito averages:
Club Captain: 2001 - 2006
Club B/F: 2003, 2004
Brownlow medals: 1 (2003), Runner up 2004
Norm Smith medals: Nil
Goals: 1.17
Games: 146
Possesions: 22.43
Brownlow votes: 0.93
Clearances: 3.49
F50 entries: 4.88
Tackles: 3.44

All Australian 2000, 2002, 2003, 2004 (captain), 2005 (captain)
AFLPA Best Captain 2005
Finals: 9?


Ben cousins averages:
Captain 2001-2005
Club B/F: 4 (2001)(2002) (2003) (2005)
Brownlow medals: 1 (2005)
NormSmith medals: Nil
Goals: 0.72
Games: 134
Possesions: 24.94
Brownlow votes: 0.92
Clearances: 4.36
F50 entries: 5.22
Tackles: 1.88

All Australian 2001, 2002, 2005 (Vice-captain)
AFLPA MVP 2005
Finals: 5
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Nathan buckley averages:
Club B/F: 2 (2000)(2003)
Brownlow medals: 1 (2003)
Goals:1.04
Games:121
Possesions:25.12
Brownlow votes:0.63
Clearances:4.15
F50 entries:6.06
Tackles:3.19


cheers to banners girl for the stats before...appreciated

It seems to me that on paper (which was the point of the thread) then roo has it over buckley. Voss has faded big time in the last two years although the simon black stats do make him look stronger than the two captains. What is the best way to sort it out as these two are pretty close.

I think buckley would shade roo in a boxing match. Hes gotter better reach and more flexibility.

 

[Mcchawk]

Where's Wayne Campbell?

Out of curiousity would people rate Buckley higher if he stayed at Brisbane and not go to lose at Collingwood (and because well everyone hates Collingwood). I think very hard to call but I'd say Carey if not Voss