Recommitted Tim Kelly [exploring trade options home to West Coast]

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Wouldn’t Geel be able to trump that with 5 for 20 and 12.

GWS would be happier. Melb happier, Geel happier and Freo the same

You don't have pick 20, though.

In order to get pick 20 you would need to not trade Tim Kelly for a top 10 pick. Unless you think we are going to find one of those and package it with pick 20.
 
Wouldn’t Geel be able to trump that with 5 for 20 and 12.

GWS would be happier. Melb happier, Geel happier and Freo the same

My point exactly. Reckon dees would prefer 6 and 12 rather than 5 and 16. Doesn't effect dockers as they are trading out the picks anyway and GWS get pick 20 rather than 21.
 
But they get exactly what they have been chasing for ages, Hogan and Lobb.

If I'm right, there is not much WA talent in the early rounds of the draft, reckon thats why both WA clubs would be happy to trade picks this year.

Freo took two Victorians in the top five last year, in four of their last five drafts they've taken Eastern Staters with their first pick. I doubt that'll worry them too much.

They'll want to get back into the draft somewhere before 81 though.
 

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You don't have pick 20, though.

In order to get pick 20 you would need to not trade Tim Kelly for a top 10 pick. Unless you think we are going to find one of those and package it with pick 20.
No I assume you will get involved and hand over 20 and 22/next years pick which you will in a heartbeat.
 
Relax.

Just rethinking my views on Geelong supporters.

World view remains unchanged.

I am glad you value what I say so highly though, shows maturity. Maybe there is hope for you yet.
I’m with you man, 100%!

Your maturity is a beacon for all to follow. Rethinking your views on all of a sports clubs supporters because a couple hurt your feelings online.

Now, let me reconsider my precious feelings towards some other random group or object because I saw something on the internet...
 
Eagles get Kelly
Eagles lose 20 and 22

Freo get 12 and 20
Freo lose 5

Cats get 5 and 22
Cats lose Kelly and 12
No I assume you will get involved and hand over 20 and 22/next years pick which you will in a heartbeat.

I'm aware of how those scenarios would play out, but I've been told many times that it will be for at least a top 10 pick. Definitely makes it a lot easier if your own pick 12 is now included in that...
 
I'm aware of how those scenarios would play out, but I've been told many times that it will be for at least a top 10 pick. Definitely makes it a lot easier if your own pick 12 is now included in that...

Stephen Wells saves face and can explain it away, cats still get a good deal imo.
 
Eagles get Kelly
Eagles lose 20 and 22

Freo get 12 and 20
Freo lose 5

Cats get 5 and 22
Cats lose Kelly and 12

Send us pick 50 back and I'm reasonably happy with that.

I think Freo then ask for something back from Melbourne in addition to Hogan, if they send them 6 and 12.
 
I’m with you man, 100%!

Your maturity is a beacon for all to follow. Rethinking your views on all of a sports clubs supporters because a couple hurt your feelings online.

Now, let me reconsider my precious feelings towards some other random group or object because I saw something on the internet...

Didn't hurt my feelings. Why would it? I am not the one trying to leave Geelong.

More concerned for others.

Compassionate person that I am. You could learn a lot from me.
 
Indeed.

It seems the only 'fair' outcome for Geelong supporters is the one where they absolutely reem the other party. Anything short of that is apparently totally unreasonable.

My only actual dealing with Geelong fans IRL (other than seeing a small pocket of them at our home games) is going to a game at Kardinia Park. They were probably more friendly than your average Victorian footy fan, probably due to being a smaller population and the ground being smaller so there weren't 50,000 empty seats. Seemed like perfectly nice people, one of them even gave me a homemade Anzac biscuit. I'm guessing that particular bay don't post ITT.
 

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The convo seems to have gone off track:

What does West Coast do to get what they need to satisfy Wells and the Geelong camp ?

As has been reported , they must get creative if they want to pull this off.

I’m hearing that potentially Hamish brayshaw could add the spice needed to picks 20 and 22 that will get Freo to part with pick 6!

Pick 6 from WC to Geelong for kelly
Neale to lions for 5 and 32
5 and 20 to Melb for Hogan
32 to GWS for Lobb
Which still leaves them pick 22 to get a good talented kid in the door!
 
I’m hearing that potentially Hamish brayshaw could add the spice needed to picks 20 and 22 that will get Freo to part with pick 6!

I'm hearing you pulled that from where the sun don't shine. No chance Freo do that deal.

And if they did, presumably because they reappointed their list management team from the 1990s, no way we give up pick 6 for Kelly.
 
The convo seems to have gone off track:

What does West Coast do to get what they need to satisfy Wells and the Geelong camp ?

As has been reported , they must get creative if they want to pull this off.

I’m hearing that potentially Hamish brayshaw could add the spice needed to picks 20 and 22 that will get Freo to part with pick 6!

Pick 6 from WC to Geelong for kelly
Neale to lions for 5 and 32
5 and 20 to Melb for Hogan
32 to GWS for Lobb
Which still leaves them pick 22 to get a good talented kid in the door!
32 for Lobb is a hard sell.
 
Stephen Wells saves face and can explain it away, cats still get a good deal imo.

That trade values Kelly between 9 and 10 in magic beans points. 20 and 22 values him pick 5-6.

I imagine there will be many cross Geelong fans if the Cats lose Kelly and pick 12 this trade period.

Whatever we trade that ends up being on traded isn't our business, though. Any pick could be traded for another player or used to draft a 300 gamer or potato.
 
That trade values Kelly between 9 and 10 in magic beans points. 20 and 22 values him pick 5-6.

I imagine there will be many cross Geelong fans if the Cats lose Kelly and pick 12 this trade period.

Whatever we trade that ends up being on traded isn't our business, though. Any pick could be traded for another player or used to draft a 300 gamer or potato.

If we were to get pick 5 and get 1 of the highly rated kids, moving from 12 to 22 wouldn't be a big deal. After 10 they are all about as good as each other anyway.
 
This. Just want it over, as there's so much irrational conversation and so many strawman arguments floating around on both sides.

Would love to go back to when we were all friends and cheering you on in the 2018 GF. #sad
After this is over let's just hug for a while.
 

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