To trade or not to trade Brad Sewell ?

[dipper86]

If Hallahan is out of contract then we might lose him

http://www.hawthornfc.com.au/news/2012-10-30/five-youngsters-sign

 

[Brishawk]

http://www.hawthornfc.com.au/news/2012-10-30/five-youngsters-sign

That says they are contracted for 2013, not 2014.

 

[dipper86]

That says they are contracted for 2013, not 2014.

How so ? article written in Oct 2012.

FIVE youngsters have committed to the Hawks, signing contract extensions ahead of the first list lodgment date on 31 October.

Kyle Cheney, Taylor Duryea, Mitch Hallahan, Will Langford and Angus Litherland have all agreed to terms and will represent Hawthorn in season 2013.

 

[Livinthedream]

Seems to me replacing Sewell with Hallahan to be the obvious move if the kid is worthy. Noone needs to leave the club unless they ask for it. The chance of giving up a good mid to the opposition is not on. The midfield at Hawthorn is currently undergoing transition on account of the fact that our premier mids are not getting any younger. Clarko will try all combinations before any Kennedyesk departures. The timing of Kennedy leaving, where we had a dearth of gun middies in their mid 20s is no longer apparent at Hawthorn. If Sewelly looks for an opportunity elsewhere, good luck to him but I doubt if there would be any suitors out there given his age and his attributes.

Couldn't have said this better myself. My thoughts to a tee.
Regardless if Buddy stays or goes we need to find a way to work up the draft order and may have to make some calls on a few of the senior players.
If Sewell and Guerra retire does that free up enough salary cap space for Dale Thomas?

 

[Brishawk]

How so ? article written in Oct 2012.

FIVE youngsters have committed to the Hawks, signing contract extensions ahead of the first list lodgment date on 31 October.

Kyle Cheney, Taylor Duryea, Mitch Hallahan, Will Langford and Angus Litherland have all agreed to terms and will represent Hawthorn in season 2013.

Yes . . .

Where does it say they signed 2 year deals? Just says they have signed on for 2013 which is this year . . .

 

[dipper86]

Yes . . .

Where does it say they signed 2 year deals? Just says they have signed on for 2013 which is this year . . .

I never said they signed a 2 year deal. The original poster said "IF" Hallahan is out of contract. I'ts not IF he is! I was just showing his the press statement.
Not sure where you're trying to go with this.

 

[Steven Tyler]

I never said they signed a 2 year deal. The original poster said "IF" Hallahan is out of contract. I'ts not IF he is! I was just showing his the press statement.
Not sure where you're trying to go with this.

Thanks for the link
So they signed an extension in 2012 and will represent Hawthorn in 2013
Which to me says their all out of contract at the end of this year

My original question stands:
If Hallahan is out of contract then we might lose him, and it seems that he is!

 

[Collins-Langford-Ayres]

If we won the flag, I would definitely consider it, as long as we got a pick inside 35.

 

[MrFujiMoto]

NO

 

[Taskmaster]

NO.... if anyone............Ellis!

 

[dipper86]

Ok lets just say hypothetically speaking, at the end of this year Sewell is told that Hallahan has surpassed him in the pecking order of our slow mids for 2014, Mitchell Hodge Lewis Hallahan. Sewell is then stranded in the twos as a depth player. He signed a new contract for 3 years in which he was runner up in the B &F in 2012, he'd most likely be somewhere near the 450 k mark maybe more. So we're all content to have 450 k of our salary cap that's already stretched to be sitting in the twos. No matter the return for Sewell in a tarde, the money that is freed up can be used to entice young gun midfielders, used on a free agent ie an outside line breaking mid, used to fix holes etc....its absurd.

 

[halfback dasher]

our list is not getting any younger and you will NEVER get gold for potato's ....

 

[Brishawk]

Ok lets just say hypothetically speaking, at the end of this year Sewell is told that Hallahan has surpassed him in the pecking order of our slow mids for 2014, Mitchell Hodge Lewis Hallahan. Sewell is then stranded in the twos as a depth player. He signed a new contract for 3 years in which he was runner up in the B &F in 2012, he'd most likely be somewhere near the 450 k mark maybe more. So we're all content to have 450 k of our salary cap that's already stretched to be sitting in the twos. No matter the return for Sewell in a tarde, the money that is freed up can be used to entice young gun midfielders, used on a free agent ie an outside line breaking mid, used to fix holes etc....its absurd.

Unless we convince him to retire what other option do we have?

 

[dipper86]

If Hallahan is out of contract then we might lose him, and it seems that he is!

You would think other clubs have noticed his form at Box Hill and that he isnt getting senior game time.
I'm sure he wants to play senior football, Hypothetically still being behind Sewell next year may just force his hand, we're every chance to lose him depending the interest.

Just noticed Litherland was also in that list........oh dear.

 

[dipper86]

Unless we convince him to retire what other option do we have?

Its preety much those two, Trade for peanuts, or forced retirement.

 

[nickrebellious]

We could probably shake something decent out of GWS.

 

[Steven Tyler]

You would think other clubs have noticed his form at Box Hill and that he isnt getting senior game time.
I'm sure he wants to play senior football, Hypothetically still being behind Sewell next year may just force his hand, we're every chance to lose him depending the interest.

Just noticed Litherland was also in that list........oh dear.

Yeah, that's what worries me too
Hallahan is someone we need as he is a perfect replacement for Sewell
Also hoping Woodward can get a run at it
With Shiels, Anderson and Hill as well our midfield has the bones of being ok post Mitch Sewell etc

But if other clubs are circling, we may just find ourselves in a "Kennedy" position again
Can't let that happen

 

[play2win]

You would think other clubs have noticed his form at Box Hill and that he isnt getting senior game time.

yes, they have noticed. it's tough to get spots for everyone when you the team is doing so well, hopefully we can squeeze him in for a game or two in the next few weeks.

 

[Steven Tyler]

our list is not getting any younger and you will NEVER get gold for potato's ....

I was wrapped when Sewell re-signed, but staggered at the length of the contract tbh

 

[NICE1]

You would think other clubs have noticed his form at Box Hill and that he isnt getting senior game time.
I'm sure he wants to play senior football, Hypothetically still being behind Sewell next year may just force his hand, we're every chance to lose him depending the interest.

Just noticed Litherland was also in that list........oh dear.

Just another 31 posession 3 goal game on the weekend, hard not to take notice.
I was absolutely stunned when we signed sewell on for another 3 years, not only stunned, but angered. I think the writing was on the wall last year, him being the sort of player he is, a 1-2 year deal at most would've sufficed.
The only thing i can think of which might be holding Hallahan back, is he may struggle to cover the ground and run both ways...which all midfielders need to be able to do these days, whether you're in and under or outside.

 

[dipper86]

Just another 31 posession 3 goal game on the weekend, hard not to take notice.
I was absolutely stunned when we signed sewell on for another 3 years, not only stunned, but angered. I think the writing was on the wall last year, him being the sort of player he is, a 1-2 year deal at most would've sufficed.
The only thing i can think of which might be holding Hallahan back, is he may struggle to cover the ground and run both ways...which all midfielders need to be able to do these days, whether you're in and under or outside.

I think Mitch knows where he stands this year......he's last in line. I'm more concerned for next year, he will have another pre season under his belt, he will be fitter and stronger, I have no doubt he will be after serious game time next year, if we can't offer it or guarantee it......he will be on his bike. Ditto with Litherland. I have a really bad feeling about him.

 

[Steven Tyler]

I think Mitch knows where he stands this year......he's last in line. I'm more concerned for next year, he will have another pre season under his belt, he will be fitter and stronger, I have no doubt he will be after serious game time next year, if we can't offer it or guarantee it......he will be on his bike. Ditto with Litherland. I have a really bad feeling about him.

I must admit I really know SFA about Litherland
He's a medium sized backman, similar to Kelly?
Hallahan is the one I want signed ASAP

 

[savagelunchbox]

NO.... if anyone............Ellis!

Like what Peter Schwab aka HBD said, you can't trade potatoes for gold. In other words to trade someone that need to have trade value. Ellis has none as his body is rooted and Essendon, who are our trading bitches, already have Gumbleton on their list.

 

[Steven Tyler]

Like what Peter Schwab aka HBD said, you can't trade potatoes for gold. In other words to trade someone that need to have trade value. Ellis has none as his body is rooted and Essendon, who are our trading bitches, already have Gumbleton on their list.

Barry Young says hi!

 

[savagelunchbox]

Barry Young says hi!

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