Live Event Toby Greene fronts the tribunal - Suspension appeal

[Captivating]

None of the evidence I have seen makes him guilty beyond reasonable doubt. The player he is supposed to have raked his fingers over denied that that was the case..yada yada yada. Taken into consideration makes the suspension seem unreasonable.

 

[longsuffreosupp]

Only the AFL could be stupid enough to have one of the jury members in this case on TV just 2 weeks ago talking about how he wants Collingwood to win. Whether there’s bias or not this just looks really poor and should be grounds for appeal

17.35 mark

 

[Credit2thaB0is]

$15k

Brown fined for tribunal lie

The AFL have fined Hawthorn's Campbell Brown $15,000 for lying to the tribunal.

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Imagine if they did that lol

 

[DAlembert]

So you haven’t seen the evidence, but highly intelligent people have been presented with the evidence by some of our best legal minds, and the pros and cons argued at length. But your gut feel overrides the facts as presented. Don’t know why you are wasting your time here, you should be making a fortune picking Keno numbers.

I have seen the video like most others. But of course u follow Collingcrap also and no doubt Eddie will kiss the Collingwood boys on the top of their heads when he sees them. Why are you wasting time here havin a bit of a troll. Eh You seem to know all about keno so eyes down ...that is when you get your head of your arse.

 

[Red Black and Blue]

Massive punishment. The context of the suspension is give GWS a chance against Collingwood or not, for an incident much lesser than the last.

 

[ExcitementMachine]

I dont understand how this is correct classification when the player himself said contact was felt on nose and his coach confirmed this was the initial assessment he heard as well.

He said he couldn't remember if there was contact near the eyes. - That doesn't auger well for this to be overturned. Dam neale the code of conduct...

 

[1990crow]

Ridiculous you can have the “victim” saying it didn’t happen and the alleged still get convicted.
AFL is so corrupt I’m actually angry about this one. Protect the Vic clubs agenda - see Cotchin in 2017.

 

[PepperFace]

Nope. There's more grounds for appeal than new evidence.

(E) AN APPEAL OF A DECISION OF THE TRIBUNAL
A Player or the AFL General Manager – Football Operations may appeal the decision of the Tribunal to the Appeal Board on one or more of the following grounds:
»»An error of law has occurred;
»»The decision of the Tribunal is so unreasonable that no Tribunal acting reasonably could have come to that decision having regard to the evidence before it;
»»The classification of the offence by the Tribunal was manifestly excessive or inadequate; or
»»The sanction imposed by the Tribunal was manifestly excessive or inadequate.

Lol. So which grounds?

 

[thedank]

If Neale claims he didn't have his eye gouged then how can Greene still be suspended? What does Neale get out of lying to the tribunal about such a matter?

 

[Gigantic]

Lol. So which grounds?

The second is the obvious one.

 

[ExcitementMachine]

Ridiculous you can have the “victim” saying it didn’t happen and the alleged still get convicted.
AFL is so corrupt I’m actually angry about this one. Protect the Vic clubs agenda - see Cotchin in 2017.

If they were corrupt then they wouldn't have allowed Neale to even give evidence.

 

[PepperFace]

The second is the obvious one.

Hahaha

 

[Rabbit of Caerbannog]

Suspended by 3 people with a combined 478 games played for Collingwood.

Will Bucks and Pendles be presiding over the appeal?

 

[Yidaki]

If Neale claims he didn't have his eye gouged then how can Greene still be suspended? What does Neale get out of lying to the tribunal about such a matter?

He didn't lie. In the heat of the moment you would barely notice what had happened. A victims evidence is really not reliable. The reliable evidence here is the video footage which shows a clear raking across the face. It's unnecessary contact with the face.

 

[Sentinel]

Love that the guy who called Neale to give evidence, which was more or less rejected, was the very same bloke who fined Campbell Brown for lying at the tribunal.

 

[1990crow]

He didn't lie. In the heat of the moment you would barely noticed what had happened. A victims evidence is really not reliable. The reliable evidence here is the video footage which shows a clear raking across the face. It's unnecessary contact with the face.

BS it’s clear evidence. Hope GWS take it to court.

 

[Credit2thaB0is]

If they were corrupt then they wouldn't have allowed Neale to even give evidence.

Unless they are so diabolical that they only intended to accuse him of lying and fine him 15k

 

[PetterdHoisted]

The AFL appealed Houli's suspension last year, correct?

They have to step in here if they are to maintain the public trust

 

[Yidaki]

BS it’s clear evidence. Hope GWS take it to court.

Verbal evidence vs. video footage? Ok.

 

[NonPhixion]

I don’t understand people defending him, Neale may not have been injured, but what he’s trying to do is pretty malicious & dirty

 

[Gigantic]

Hahaha

Good chat

 

[Credit2thaB0is]

Verbal evidence vs. video footage? Ok.

Video footage shows fingers contact the nose and cheek. The eye is obscured by his passing hand but there’s no conclusive evidence the eye region itself was raked.

 

[FrakturedHalo]

Ridiculous you can have the “victim” saying it didn’t happen and the alleged still get convicted.
AFL is so corrupt I’m actually angry about this one. Protect the Vic clubs agenda - see Cotchin in 2017.

Hmmm dont let your confirmation bias or anything cloud your judgement cowboy, Neale said absolutely nothing of the sort that "it didnt happen", he said he "couldnt remember if it was near the eyes or not"...which of course he would, no player wants to be put on the stand and look like a squealing rat, even if he knows damn well it was. Which what he says anyway doesnt really hold much weight considering his testinony is he doesnt remember so theyll consider the footage of him lying on the ground afterwards rubbing his eye and blinking like a deer in headlights in the shot of him with the runner afterwards.

But no buddy hate to tell you in law a "i cant remember" does not equal "it didnt happen", thats where evidence comes in

 

[Rabbit of Caerbannog]

Video footage shows fingers contact the nose and cheek. The eye is obscured by his passing hand but there’s no conclusive evidence the eye region itself was raked.

And even if he did make extremely fleeting contact to the eye(s), the evidence is not sufficient enough to prove it was intentional. Careless contact would've been a fine rather than a suspension.

 

[Jaeger]

Stupid thing to do (especially after last week) and unnecessary - but don't like a player missing a prelim for something so minor.