Traded Tom Barrass & 2025 F4 (WCE) traded to Hawthorn for 2025 F1, F2 & F3 (all Haw)

[Dewwwww]

Eagles with the worst list in the comp have 2 drafts to rebuild before it is compromised due Tasmania entering the comp yet they expect the world for Barrass.

Feel free to keep him. Enjoy your 8yr rebuild

 

[amazingjoshy]

Eagles with the worst list in the comp have 2 drafts to rebuild before it is compromised due Tasmania entering the comp yet they expect the world for Barrass.

Feel free to keep him. Enjoy your 8yr rebuild

I'm sure pick 14 (which would become Liam Baker) would turn it all around for us

 

[triple treat]

The deal is done.

Settle.

Don’t know what it is, and when it’ll be announced?

 

[Fluro Boots]

So much angst over a pick 14. thankfully all the list managers have cooler temperaments.

 

[TheEscapeClub]

You'd think that if you got all your news from the Vic media bubble. Apparently Rioli is worth pick, Bolton 10 and 11, Baker 14, but on the flipside 14 and a second rounder is too much for a contracted KPD, 17 is fine for Bailey Smith etc. Those are the narratives coming out of the media and they are horribly one-sided.

Smith is a dime a dozen midfielder coming off an ACL.

6 is nuts for Rioli

10 and 11 is ridiculous for Bolton

14 I reckon is too much for Baker.

 

[VicBased]

I wonder what this thread would look like if TB played for Hawthorn.???

 

[JackOutback]

Talking Prime Age profile. his 29 legit has 2-3 years left at most.

If that was true, Hawthorn wouldn't be offering four to five years. A KPD's prime can be anywhere from 25-31, with some decent football from 31-33. A midfielder's prime may come in a bit because speed is a significant factor.

 

[Yippy Yi Yeo]

That's why you've offered only three years and less money than Hawthorn?

We aren't offering any years, he signed a 5 year deal 2 years ago and has 3 left. The club has been reasonable enough to offer a bit more money on top of the deal he already agreed to 2 years ago, but he's lookinc for more. Of course hawks have to offer more than WC to get him to uproot his family and move across the country, that goes without saying.

 

[Yippy Yi Yeo]

Assuming the fall out was because we wanted 14 + Hawks F2 and not send our own F3 to them:

If Richmond are cool with Hawks future first for Baker then I suspect a deal could still be done. Barrass for Hawks future first and Carlton's future second.

Suspect we were straight swapping pick 14 for Baker so no point arguing whether 14 or Hawks F1 is the better pick. All up to Richmond to accept the offer.

Also suspect Carlton will finish below Hawks next season so the future 2nd may end up being better than Hawks F2.

Can you just delete your account already

 

[ghostbat12]

I'm sure the stalemate was over an F3

But petty from hawks given they courted him, romanced him, talked sweet things in his ear.

And now cancel deal over pick 40-60.

No first rounders this year for hawks
No barrass

Only left with thoughts of what 2025 could have been.

 

[Iceman!]

But petty from hawks given they courted him, romanced him, talked sweet things in his ear.

And now cancel deal over pick 40-60.

No first rounders this year for hawks
No barrass

Only left with thoughts of what 2025 could have been.

It’s alright, he’s used to having clubs agree to look after him only to have them let him down.

 

[Iceman!]

I wonder what this thread would look like if TB played for Hawthorn.???

If Barrass was a Hawk and wanting out 2-3 years ago (but at his current age) I’d have been very keen for the club to try and extract value out of him.

 

[ghostbat12]

It’s alright, he’s used to having clubs agree to look after him only to have them let him down.

He is also used to changing clubs to go to.

Sydney
Dogs
Hawks

He will find another. Don’t worry about that.

 

[TylerDurden]

Don’t know what it is, and when it’ll be announced?

Would have to be Monday. They need to get Baker done.

 

[Iceman!]

He is also used to changing clubs to go to.

Sydney
Dogs
Hawks

He will find another. Don’t worry about that.

Did he ever decide on the Dogs?

 

[bumsonseats]

I wonder what this thread would look like if TB played for Hawthorn.???

I think you will find we have a pretty good record.
Brad Hill springs to mind - a little while ago....granted.
Left to go home at age 23 after a couple of premierships - all we got for him was pick 23.
I am sure we could have dug our heels in for much more but we did the righty by the player

 

[bumsonseats]

But petty from hawks given they courted him, romanced him, talked sweet things in his ear.

And now cancel deal over pick 40-60.

No first rounders this year for hawks
No barrass

Only left with thoughts of what 2025 could have been.

we are saving up first rounders to lure H. Reid back home in next year or 2

 

[ghostbat12]

Did he ever decide on the Dogs?

Doesn’t have to decide. Merely slitting himself around is enough.

He will attach himself to another club that comes along. No point attaching yourself to anything when it can’t get done.

If this saves us from baker, I am happy. Literally no west coast fan is unhappy that barrass has broken down.

 

[ghostbat12]

we are saving up first rounders to lure H. Reid back home in next year or 2

Except he is contracted.

Imagine the disappointment.

 

[Philhawk]

Has to be one of the funniest threads on BF.

When Weagles accept our future picks, it’s going to be hilarious to see the winding back of positions.

 

[Astro35]

Still has 3yrs left on his contract. Sorry TB, try again next year.

 

[Farang83150]

In reality, the contract only dictates where he plays if the deal falls over. It doesn’t make him worth more or less.

Without a doubt, THE dumbest comment to date in this thread....by far.

 

[Guardian Hawk]

Easy.

None of those players you mentioned are Key Postion.

Key position players don’t grow on trees, and good ones are worth their weight in gold.

If that is the reason he is worth much more than young players that went on to win MVP's, Brownlows, flags, AA's, etc...

I assume it would be easy to find examples of 29+ year old key position players traded for top 15 picks then?

Has there ever been one?

P.S. (Brodie Grundy was 29 last season when traded and filling an important position of need for Sydney - with multiple AA's on his CV - he went for an end of 2nd round pick.)

P.P.S The only key position player I can ever recall being traded at 29+ for a top 15 pick was Wayne Carey - and he was considered by many the greatest player of all time AND it was over 20 years ago AND it is considered an awful trade by Adelaide.

There is no way looking at literally every trade in history it can be reasonably argued that Pick 14 (and extras) can be considered 'lowballing' for a 29 year old full back.

 

[CobberRodgers]

Without a doubt, THE dumbest comment to date in this thread....by far.

Please.

If his contract meant anything you wouldn’t be pushing him out for picks that you so desperately need.

 

[HairyO]

Why not 500k more to make sure they dont feel homesick?

Is $500k more what Barrass was after from WCE? Somehow I dont think we are paying him well over $1m a year.