Traded Tom Barrass & 2025 F4 (WCE) traded to Hawthorn for 2025 F1, F2 & F3 (all Haw)

[BIGHAWK23]

One thind id like to see us do is get in Jiaths ear and talk him to coming the other way. First rounder + Jiath could work.

Thats cute

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Thats cute

What do you think Jiath is worth? Id say a pick between 20-30? He has somewhat been kicked out of his preferred position and dont see him getting it back

 

[HeHateMe]

It was reported we asked for a first and a young player.

Obviously nobody knows who that player might be, or if it's even true, but that's supposedly what WCE have tabled.

Will depend on the player, Jiath was mentioned above. He is worth less than Barrass but not pick 10/11 less.

 

[bzparkes]

Will depend on the player, Jiath was mentioned above. He is worth less than Barrass but not pick 10/11 less.

Some people are thinking it's Ward.

May be him, may be someone completely different.

If there is a player involved, I imagine we'd send our F3 back, depending on the player and presuming that eventuates.

 

[BIGHAWK23]

What do you think Jiath is worth? Id say a pick between 20-30? He has somewhat been kicked out of his preferred position and dont see him getting it back

When was he kicked out of his primary position?

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

When was he kicked out of his primary position?

When he was starting on a wing for a few games? Id suggest if Josh Battle comes in also he will find it tough to get a gig also given he was starting on the wing a few times already?

I could also see us chucking a dumb contract infront of his face you might not be wanting to match too

 

[BIGHAWK23]

When he was starting on a wing for a few games? Id suggest if Josh Battle comes in also he will find it tough to get a gig also given he was starting on the wing a few times already?

I could also see us chucking a dumb contract infront of his face you might not be wanting to match too

He has been playing on the wing the whole time

That hasn't changed

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

He has been playing on the wing the whole time

That hasn't changed

He didnt start his career as a defender?

Id say this is his preferred position and he was pushed to the wing. At Eagles id say he would go to that third tall role we really struggled to fill whereby we have put boobs like Rotham in it or played Harry Edwards out of position in it

 

[HeHateMe]

Some people are thinking it's Ward.

May be him, may be someone completely different.

If there is a player involved, I imagine we'd send our F3 back, depending on the player and presuming that eventuates.

The players being mentioned, you guys would need to send something back, might be more than WC are happy too. My gut tells me the Barrass trade will end up as pick/s only no players.

Unless you guys are really keen to acquire the player, like we appear to be with Barrass.

 

[triple treat]

He didnt start his career as a defender?

Id say this is his preferred position and he was pushed to the wing. At Eagles id say he would go to that third tall role we really struggled to fill whereby we have put boobs like Rotham in it or played Harry Edwards out of position in it

Diacos and Young started at half back as well, would you say that’s there preferred position?
Lots of young guys start out on a half back line and progress to other positions!

 

[bzparkes]

The players being mentioned, you guys would need to send something back, might be more than WC are happy too. My gut tells me the Barrass trade will end up as pick/s only no players.

Unless you guys are really keen to acquire the player, like we appear to be with Barrass.

Personally, I think it'll just be 1st and 2nd/F2nd from Hawks.

Would need to convince a player to actually want to leave to begin with, for starters. Can't see any regulars wanting to move from Hawks at the moment.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Diacos and Young started at half back as well, would you say that’s there preferred position?
Lots of young guys start out on a half back line and progress to other positions!

Yeah very good point

In sayign that, he is also welcome on a wing for the Eagles too

Overall he aint joining Eagles anyway unless it involves a wheelbarrow full of money. A wheelbarrow that is empty once we lose Barass deal. Would Hawks match a offer like 4 year 3 mill ?

 

[BIGHAWK23]

He didnt start his career as a defender?

Id say this is his preferred position and he was pushed to the wing. At Eagles id say he would go to that third tall role we really struggled to fill whereby we have put boobs like Rotham in it or played Harry Edwards out of position in it

No

That is completely incorrect that its his preferred position

Always going to be a wingmen

 

[triple treat]

Yeah very good point

In sayign that, he is also welcome on a wing for the Eagles too

Overall he aint joining Eagles anyway unless it involves a wheelbarrow full of money. A wheelbarrow that is empty once we lose Barass deal. Would Hawks match an offer like 4 year 3 mill ?

No but if you are offering that kinda a money and years to a contracted player then it’ll be your 1st and next years 1st as well .
am I doing it right?

 

[Hawker399]

2x 2nd rounders or a 2nd and a player (yet to be identified) is Hawks proposed offer. Hawthorn has determined that at 29 that is his value. The 5 year deal is true but that is the lure for Barrass to leave and not an indication of what trade value the Hawks believe is needed to satisfy the Eagles.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

No but if you are offering that kinda a money and years to a contracted player then it’ll be your 1st and next years 1st as well .
am I doing it right?

Barass getting alot more then 4/3 mill. ALOT more. 5/4.5 is the deadset minimum. Id suggest you are probably offering more

 

[SSSSSS]

Youre having a laugh no? He’s one of the best backmen in the league in his prime with 3 years to run on his contract. With the Hawks cracking the 8 this week that pick is now outside 10.

It’s both first rounders easily, especially if you climb a couple more spots (likely with your fixture). You cant be going after a contracted top 5 defender and not having to pay up for him.

~12 and F12 is more than fair for both sides.

He's 29.
Potentially dodgy back (I'm sure we would have done our due diligence but there is always a risk).
Actively being shipped out.

If the last point wasn't true I could see clubs being forced to pay two firsts but when the club want him to move on for picks it's going to hurt your hand.

Great player but he's coming at a discounted price.

Eagles want a first rounder and will get it. Very doubtful it will be much more without something coming back.

Obviously Barass and his management are confident that a deal can be done if they are leaking so early. I doubt very much the Eagles will stand in the way of a Premiership player especially after welching on a verbal deal.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

He's 29.
Potentially dodgy back (I'm sure we would have done our due diligence but there is always a risk).
Actively being shipped out.

If the last point wasn't true I could see clubs being forced to pay two firsts but when the club want him to move on for picks it's going to hurt your hand.

Great player but he's coming at a discounted price.

Eagles want a first rounder and will get it. Very doubtful it will be much more without something coming back.

Obviously Barass and his management are confident that a deal can be done if they are leaking so early. I doubt very much the Eagles will stand in the way of a Premiership player especially after welching on a verbal deal.

Issue with this is we have said already we want more then that, we outlined that to Hawthorn already. If they were not willing to pay more then a 1st rounder, they wouldnt have flown over to talk to him

 

[DRK_13]

It isn't a big issue with the pick moving back a few places in this draft, hawks may just need to add some change if it slides a few places. But shouldn't disrupt the trade an aweful lot.

Are WC sniffing around some of our players as well and trying to get someone involved?

Wouldn't be surprised. Who do Hawthorn fans think could be likely?


I think we can pretty much agree that Hawthorn's 1st is extremely likely (almost guaranteed) to be part of the deal.
But I expect the Eagles will be asking for more, and getting more.

Have to remember, Hawthorn isnt/wasnt the only suitor for Barrass. We are talking about a Top 5, AA, B+F Key Def, with years remaining on his contract. If what people in this thread are saying, that he is being "actively pushed out," (which I strongly doubt) then the Eagles can afford to play hardball with Hawthorn and threaten to ship him wherever they get the best deal.

However, that's not how the Eagles do business, so my guessing is a deal has already been negotiated and everyone is happy. Just a waiting game now.

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

2x 2nd rounders or a 2nd and a player (yet to be identified) is Hawks proposed offer. Hawthorn has determined that at 29 that is his value. The 5 year deal is true but that is the lure for Barrass to leave and not an indication of what trade value the Hawks believe is needed to satisfy the Eagles.

You guys are offering 5 years at 900k a year and you dont think a first rounder should be involved?

I fail to see this deal getting done if that is the case .

 

[HeHateMe]

Wouldn't be surprised. Who do Hawthorn fans think could be likely?


I think we can pretty much agree that Hawthorn's 1st is extremely likely (almost guaranteed) to be part of the deal.
But I expect the Eagles will be asking for more, and getting more.

Have to remember, Hawthorn isnt/wasnt the only suitor for Barrass. We are talking about a Top 5, AA, B+F Key Def, with years remaining on his contract. If what people in this thread are saying, that he is being "actively pushed out," (which I strongly doubt) then the Eagles can afford to play hardball with Hawthorn and threaten to ship him wherever they get the best deal.

However, that's not how the Eagles do business, so my guessing is a deal has already been negotiated and everyone is happy. Just a waiting game now.

No guarantees, all parties are trying to get the best deal for themselves. I personally would be okay with it.

Is Barrass forcing his way out though have things soured, the leaks to the media are odd not the way either of our clubs do business.

 

[SSSSSS]

Wouldn't be surprised. Who do Hawthorn fans think could be likely?


I think we can pretty much agree that Hawthorn's 1st is extremely likely (almost guaranteed) to be part of the deal.
But I expect the Eagles will be asking for more, and getting more.

Have to remember, Hawthorn isnt/wasnt the only suitor for Barrass. We are talking about a Top 5, AA, B+F Key Def, with years remaining on his contract. If what people in this thread are saying, that he is being "actively pushed out," (which I strongly doubt) then the Eagles can afford to play hardball with Hawthorn and threaten to ship him wherever they get the best deal.

However, that's not how the Eagles do business, so my guessing is a deal has already been negotiated and everyone is happy. Just a waiting game now.

As always it doesn't matter once the player selects a destination they aren't going to get shipped anywhere else or will be held to their contract.

If Barrass declares Hawthorn as his destination a deal will be done.

Both clubs are very professional come trade time, and historically been quite lenient. I'd imagine what will happen is an outcome both sets of supporters are rather unhappy about with Hawks feeling they gave up too much and Eagles feeling they haven't received enough aka a fair trade.

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

He's 29.
Potentially dodgy back (I'm sure we would have done our due diligence but there is always a risk).
Actively being shipped out.

If the last point wasn't true I could see clubs being forced to pay two firsts but when the club want him to move on for picks it's going to hurt your hand.

Great player but he's coming at a discounted price.

Eagles want a first rounder and will get it. Very doubtful it will be much more without something coming back.

Obviously Barass and his management are confident that a deal can be done if they are leaking so early. I doubt very much the Eagles will stand in the way of a Premiership player especially after welching on a verbal deal.

Barrass is not actively being shopped out .
He has a mega offer in front of him that we won't match.

We also won't stand in his way as long as we are well compensated in line with a gun contracted KPD that is getting a mega offer

 

[DRK_13]

As always it doesn't matter once the player selects a destination they aren't going to get shipped anywhere else or will be held to their contract.

If Barrass declares Hawthorn as his destination a deal will be done.

Both clubs are very professional come trade time, and historically been quite lenient. I'd imagine what will happen is an outcome both sets of supporters are rather unhappy about with Hawks feeling they gave up too much and Eagles feeling they haven't received enough aka a fair trade.

Yep, probably a likely outcome too.

I dont think the Eagles will get bent over, nor do I think Hawthorn will pay overs.
There will be a middle where both teams are happy enough, and us fans will always have something to complain about.

 

[eaglevision]

2x 2nd rounders or a 2nd and a player (yet to be identified) is Hawks proposed offer. Hawthorn has determined that at 29 that is his value. The 5 year deal is true but that is the lure for Barrass to leave and not an indication of what trade value the Hawks believe is needed to satisfy the Eagles.

No it’s not.