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Realistically McCabe as is the case with most young KPDs, is probably not a real option until closer to 2027.Hawks aren’t desperate for TB’s services and will only do a deal if it’s a fair one.
Currently Hawks backline is doing quite well, Blanck is coming back from injury and we have high hopes with our first rounder from last year Will McCabe who looks promising as a 197cm athletic type.
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We don't need him this week. All Carlton forwards listed with "Heart" on the AFL injuries page.So he's out again this week? Gotta protect that trade asset.
Can you point me to where the Hawks made massive overtures? Or are you talking about the catch up Sam had with him in the west that surely would have to have been given the green light by the Eagles!If course they're not obligated. They've made massive overtures though, so I expect they'll stump up something reasonable.
I wouldn't expect WCE to go full Geelong either
Coaches meet up with players all the time.Can you point me to where the Hawks made massive overtures? Or are you talking about the catch up Sam had with him in the west that surely would have to have been given the green light by the Eagles!
Realistically McCabe as is the case with most young KPDs, is probably not a real option until closer to 2027.
Is Blanck + Frost a premiership winning KPD combo?
I think you guys have displayed enough interest in McKay last year and Barrass now to prove without a doubt that you are desperate for KPD like Barrass
My point being that why would the Eagles agree for a player contracted for the next 3 years to meet with an opposition coach if they weren’t keen to trade him out?Coaches meet up with players all the time.
According to Schofield and Mark Readings after Barrass meet with Mitchell, he said some coaches meet up to 20+ players every year to see if they want to shift.
It's not exactly unusual.
What's 'unusual' is flying the opposite direction from home to meet with a player when you need to get home with the team and prepare for the next match.
Could've done a Zoom call but Mitchell preferred to meet Barras directly.
Regardless of whether it's 'green-lit' by the Eagles or not, you still need to make an effort to get the player to commit to your club.
Mitchell's clearly done that and clearly that's his MO when targeting potential trades into Hawthorn.
Huh? Who said they 'agreed'?My point being that why would the Eagles agree for a player contracted for the next 3 years to meet with an opposition coach if they weren’t keen to trade him out?
Who said they didn’t?Huh? Who said they 'agreed'?
I just told you that coaches meet with players all the time, doesn't mean those meetings are club sanctioned. That's just the landscape of player movement these days.
Two firsts?Would gladly take him back.
This is where I think the "eye test" trumps stats.4th worst one on one defender in the comp this year
I'm not actually sure he is exactly what we need
I would argue that lockdown role is what we need to recruit for though. Stats over his whole career show he hasn't been great in those 1v1 contests. Does he stop Hogan last week from dominating against us? I'm not sure.This is where I think the "eye test" trumps stats.
Barrass has officially been in about 2 contested defence 1 v 1s per game this season. Last few years it's been around 3. But I think you'd have to have rocks in your head to think that those 2-3 moments per game wholly encapsulates defending your matchup. And sure he performs poorly in that metric, but like the difference btwn someone who performs good in it vs someone who performs poorly in it is probably like 5 shots a season. Not exactly the be all and end all.
Might also be role dependent: as he's become more of an interceptor and potentially leading the backline more, it's probably natural that he's gonna be caught "late" to matchups because his role requires him to do a lot more babysitting than it did in the past, when he performed well in that metric.
That's not me making a hard call on what quality of defender he is. But I think that metric is 1 of the more misleading metrics we have. It'd lead to the conclusion that Darcy Moore is a superior 1 v 1 defender to Sam Taylor. I'd hope everyone would agree that that's nonsense.
Brockman is shizen. No way he was worth more than we gave.The entitlement of the WCE fans is absurd. Recently we've already given them Brockman for basically nothing and we even gave them a lend of Sammy. Get what your given.
I think most are realistic enough to know 2 first rounders is a stretch. Maybe you're only being exposed to the ones being more aggresive than that.Decent return is fine, most are demanding extreme overs 'because he is contracted' despite knowing it is in the best interest of the club to move on from him.
Your firsts are very average.Wont be 2 firsts
It won'tYour firsts are very average.
You'll be selling the farm, ala tim Kelly trade
I'm not sure it's a great measure in isolation as some midfields are going to pressure the ball carrier far better than others. KPDs at bottom 4 clubs are on a hiding to nothing.4th worst one on one defender in the comp this year
I'm not actually sure he is exactly what we need
I see no reason he'd have to retire early or have any lingering issues like some of the older guys getting soft tissue injuries or somethingHow many games do you you blokes think Barrass has left in him?
His body has taken a fair bit of punishment for a soon to be 29 year old. I'd be surprised if he manages more than 50.