Traded Tom Scully [traded to Hawthorn for a future fourth round pick]

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Salary dump by GWS, smart recruiting by the Hawks if they can get a fit Scully for his contracted term. Looking pretty good so far but its still early days.

I suspect the Hawks medical was exaggerated to facilitate the trade (i.e. overstate the injury to make the trade cheaper), and seems to be straight out of the Hawthorn playbook. The medical team hasn't had near as much success with chronically injured players already in the system (i.e. Birchall and Rioli)
O’Rourke killed us. The others you mentioned delivered 4 cups.
 
O’Rourke killed us. The others you mentioned delivered 4 cups.

Don't get me wrong, Hawthorn obviously have a very good medical team, but its been a trend for a while now that the Hawks tend to exaggerate potential medical issues with anyone they target. Its a valid negotiation technique and if the seller falls for it good luck to them

FWIW Scully doesn't look injury affected whatsoever
 
Don't get me wrong, Hawthorn obviously have a very good medical team, but its been a trend for a while now that the Hawks tend to exaggerate potential medical issues with anyone they target. Its a valid negotiation technique and if the seller falls for it good luck to them

FWIW Scully doesn't look injury affected whatsoever
Take the tin foil hat off, you do realise every team as a medical team right? You really think the Hawthorn medical stuff bluffed the GWS doctors "he's stuffed mate" "oh? he looks fine but if you say so" :rolleyes:
 

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Don't get me wrong, Hawthorn obviously have a very good medical team, but its been a trend for a while now that the Hawks tend to exaggerate potential medical issues with anyone they target. Its a valid negotiation technique and if the seller falls for it good luck to them

FWIW Scully doesn't look injury affected whatsoever
you do realise how ****ing ridiculous this sounds, right?
 
Take the tin foil hat off, you do realise every team as a medical team right? You really think the Hawthorn medical stuff bluffed the GWS doctors "he's stuffed mate" "oh? he looks fine but if you say so" :rolleyes:

That's not what I said. Of course GWS have their own medical staff who would have their own opinions, but sports medicine isn't black and white and opinions can vary significantly.

The Hawks have form in leaking to the media the severity of injuries that their medicals have uncovered.

Who do you think leaked the info on Scully? It certainly wasn't in GWS interests
 
That's not what I said. Of course GWS have their own medical staff who would have their own opinions, but sports medicine isn't black and white and opinions can vary significantly.

The Hawks have form in leaking to the media the severity of injuries that their medicals have uncovered.

Who do you think leaked the info on Scully? It certainly wasn't in GWS interests
You really think the media dictates the value of a trade? GWS knew his value to THEM and Hawthorn took the risk once Essendon went after Shiel instead.
 
That's not what I said. Of course GWS have their own medical staff who would have their own opinions, but sports medicine isn't black and white and opinions can vary significantly.

The Hawks have form in leaking to the media the severity of injuries that their medicals have uncovered.

Who do you think leaked the info on Scully? It certainly wasn't in GWS interests

Media reported GWS had concerns he wouldn't play again. They thought he was stuffed mate. Their call, on top of our medical, that said the injury was "horrendous". We just back ourselves in more.
 
Salary dump by GWS, smart recruiting by the Hawks if they can get a fit Scully for his contracted term. Looking pretty good so far but its still early days.

I suspect the Hawks medical was exaggerated to facilitate the trade (i.e. overstate the injury to make the trade cheaper), and seems to be straight out of the Hawthorn playbook. The medical team hasn't had near as much success with chronically injured players already in the system (i.e. Birchall and Rioli)
Would be pretty ****ing weird for clubs to be not consulting their medical staff for their injured players complete history and relying on our medical staff on a 3 hour examination to determine overall what damage is done
 
That's not what I said. Of course GWS have their own medical staff who would have their own opinions, but sports medicine isn't black and white and opinions can vary significantly.

The Hawks have form in leaking to the media the severity of injuries that their medicals have uncovered.

Who do you think leaked the info on Scully? It certainly wasn't in GWS interests

Please direct me to any evidence of us leaking info to the media re medicals. I wont hold my breathe.

Bottom line is GWS thought he was cooked. We didn't. This has been reported by the media from GWS people.

The truth is that Tom is a gun, fit, cost us 2 fifths of **** all & it annoys you so you are directing blame at us for being somehow dishonest with trade discussions.
 
Scully was contracted to GWS until the end of 2021 for a reported $500k a year (https://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-06-17/tom-scully-resigns-with-giants-takes-a-pay-cut).

There were legitimate concerns about how long it would take to come back from his ankle injury (remember he was traded in October and didn't play for 12 months before playing a couple of weeks ago) but I don't think GWS or Hawthorn had him off to the glue factory. I don't think Hawthorn would have committed to taking on his contract if they thought he was a long shot. The trade price reflects GWS having a salary cap squeeze and not wanting to risk another year of Scully not playing and eating up cap space.
 
Scully was contracted to GWS until the end of 2021 for a reported $500k a year (https://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-06-17/tom-scully-resigns-with-giants-takes-a-pay-cut).

There were legitimate concerns about how long it would take to come back from his ankle injury (remember he was traded in October and didn't play for 12 months before playing a couple of weeks ago) but I don't think GWS or Hawthorn had him off to the glue factory. I don't think Hawthorn would have committed to taking on his contract if they thought he was a long shot. The trade price reflects GWS having a salary cap squeeze and not wanting to risk another year of Scully not playing and eating up cap space.

Correct weight. We took a calculated risk. As i've said, "we backed our guys in" again. Remember, the medical was "horrendous".
 

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Interesting game today from Scully. Maybe the ankle feeling a little sore?

He put his body on the line in the previous two weeks but looked very tentative today?

Reckon he could be rested next week
 
If they gave out brownlow votes for financial planning, tom scully would be the next bob skilton across his career!

Became literally the highest paid player in the game after 20 ho-hum games at the dees.

Spent the next half a decade as near to the highest paid player ever, racking up another 100 even more bog ordinary games before finally rising to the lofty heights of 'ok' for a couple of years.

Then manages to keep his more than double the average AFL wage for years despite losing the one elite thing about him- his legs!

What a legend!
The Wolf of Waverley can do my tax return any day
 

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