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ellard got a free in front of goal that wasnt there, niko should of been payed a free in our 50 but the umpire somehow called it for scotland, shuey wasnt tackled when he dropped the ball, kennedy was pushed by jamison yet the free went to the blues and blues supporters pissing and moaning about the holding the ball called against arnfield the ball wasnt pinned he just chose to hang onto it correct call, i can keep going if ya want plenty didnt go the eagles way..
 

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ellard got a free in front of goal that wasnt there, niko should of been payed a free in our 50 but the umpire somehow called it for scotland, shuey wasnt tackled when he dropped the ball, kennedy was pushed by jamison yet the free went to the blues and blues supporters pissing and moaning about the holding the ball called against arnfield the ball wasnt pinned he just chose to hang onto it correct call, i can keep going if ya want plenty didnt go the eagles way..

The one eyed reporting is feeding the umpire bashing.


More heartache, Ratts fumes








By Jacob Kagi and Cameron Noakes 11:51 PM Sat 17 Sep, 2011




"And it was stinging because of what appeared to be a home-crowd decision that went against Carlton forward Andrew Walker, when many thought it should have been his kick, close to the Blues' goals in the dying minutes. If Walker had kicked the goal, Carlton would have been leading.

Instead, West Coast captain Darren Glass was awarded the free.

When asked about it, a reporter said it appeared Walker was held.

Ratten said: "You probably said the words. I don't even have to say it. Anyway, you can't do anything about it, it's a game of inches. I won't even comment any further."


This is wrong and plain funny IMO.

Glass didn't get the free kick it was called play on, Glass was infront of Walker with his eyes on the ball, pretty hard to give away a free when you are in front of your man. Yes Glass did have an arm behind Walker but no jumper was held and again Glass held front possition facing the incoming ball, Walker simply wansn't big enough or strong enough to get front position.

Go look at the stats, Glass didn't receive 1 free kick for the entire game, so where did this journo pluck the statement above from, I'm guessing its a dark and smelly place.;)

As for Ratten's comments I laughed, I wonder if another loss by less than a kick will haunt him and his side and they will carry that "burden" into next year?:cool:
 
^^^

I laughed when i heard Rattens presser after the game, did he even see the incident because im pretty sure he said that walker was laying on the ground after glass man handled him, i thought delusion was a supporter thing not from their head coach..
 
Ray should be sacked. I'm not saying this because he was ordinary this week I'm saying this because he is a woeful umpire and always will be. He is too worried about being smart with the players and talking back to them. Absolute tool of an umpire.
 
Ray Chamberlain (Umpire Razor Ray) who was involved in the Carlton-West Coast Semi Final match is under discussion about a possible Bribe involving a bikey member from Perth to "cherry" the game. The bribe amount is believed to be $25,000. "Cherrying" involves picking all theatrical free kicks for one team whilst being reluctant to pay frees for the other team. Umpires are more willing to accept these bribes as it avoids scrutiny and comes across as "home side advantage sympathy"

YEP! I said that he was in trouble lol

 
Ray Chamberlain (Umpire Razor Ray) who was involved in the Carlton-West Coast Semi Final match is under discussion about a possible Bribe involving a bikey member from Perth to "cherry" the game. The bribe amount is believed to be $25,000. "Cherrying" involves picking all theatrical free kicks for one team whilst being reluctant to pay frees for the other team. Umpires are more willing to accept these bribes as it avoids scrutiny and comes across as "home side advantage sympathy"

YEP! I said that he was in trouble lol

Is this for real
Link please
 
Ray Chamberlain (Umpire Razor Ray) who was involved in the Carlton-West Coast Semi Final match is under discussion about a possible Bribe involving a bikey member from Perth to "cherry" the game. The bribe amount is believed to be $25,000. "Cherrying" involves picking all theatrical free kicks for one team whilst being reluctant to pay frees for the other team. Umpires are more willing to accept these bribes as it avoids scrutiny and comes across as "home side advantage sympathy"

YEP! I said that he was in trouble lol


Something was very fishy last night. Never ever seen anything like it. This isn't just a knee-jerk reaction or excuse to the loss, even if we won I would be saying the same thing. The AFL and Geishan need to investigate the umpiring last night. We got got absolutely no luck all night and at least they need to consider the unbelievably high rate of free kicks given, most which were conveniantly located in west coasts attacking 50.
 
Something was very fishy last night. Never ever seen anything like it. This isn't just a knee-jerk reaction or excuse to the loss, even if we won I would be saying the same thing. The AFL and Geishan need to investigate the umpiring last night. We got got absolutely no luck all night and at least they need to consider the unbelievably high rate of free kicks given, most which were conveniantly located in west coasts attacking 50.
Of course that's a knee jerk reaction. You're remembering the game as it seemed live, but watch it again without the emotion and it looks different. Carlton got a very nice run in the first quarter especially, overall the umpiring didn't really favour either team.
 

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It went both ways but it went Eagles way more. Plus Eagles got about 6 frees from my count that resulted in goals and 2 more non-frees that should have been paid to Carlton that resulted in goals. Carlton still had to earn their goals and were robbed of a few frees that would have seen sets on goals. Carlton were the better side but once the umpires screw you there is no 2nd prize. Doesn't really matter anyway cos they would have lost this week but it must be tough on the players; three years in a row they have gone down by less than a kick to be knocked out of the finals.
 
Disregarding the first half because we all know that was shit both ways - I think the only really poor umpiring decision in the second half was the non-free to the carlton defender who got chopped and Lecras got a goal.

Other than that the second half was generally fine.
 
Something was very fishy last night. Never ever seen anything like it. This isn't just a knee-jerk reaction or excuse to the loss, even if we won I would be saying the same thing. The AFL and Geishan need to investigate the umpiring last night. We got got absolutely no luck all night and at least they need to consider the unbelievably high rate of free kicks given, most which were conveniantly located in west coasts attacking 50.

And I was saying the exact same thing in the first quarter, but then the umpires stopped shafting the Eagles with poor decisions and cheap goals to your mob and the Blues started copping crap decisions.

Very frustrating that the umpires were noticed so much last night but to claim a conspiracy against one side by the umps is plain one eyed and sour grapes.
 
I disagree- why pay one and deem it wasn't acting and not another (to a Carlton player near the boundary line in the 3rd quarter? I think) and deem it was acting?Both were "pushed" to the ground by a jumper pull. You heard the ump on the mike for the carlton one..."naah- that was acting- I won't award it"- but you awarded the other one though and that was acting too...so why the difference?

Free kicks should not be paid in the goal square for this - basically argy bargy no face was touched /pushing and shoving resulting in acting. The rules need to be changed- only head high pushing can result in a free kick in the goal square- not jumper pulling...it is just so insanely ridiculous that that is worthy of six points.

When you see players from both sides busting a gut to contest so fiercely ball after ball putting their body on the line- just to get the six points and then you contrast the merit of six points like that ???? you just shake your head in disbelief.

if you are wrestling and one player ACTS and accentuates falling to the ground - is that worthy of deciding a match? (that actor darling will have that on his resume for the rest of his career. davies pulls him from a contest, but darling accentuated it to draw the free- this shouldn't be what our game is about...acting) Maybe in soccer but not in Australian football.

ps- I know Darling is a good/gutsy contested mark as well...but his dive will be on his resume nonetheless for as long as he plays the game. It isn't the way I would want to be remembered.

Dive?

What dive?

The guy grabbed him by his gurnsey, Darling puts his arms out to show he isn't doing anything and your bloke basically sling tackles him to the ground.

Not one commentator criticised the decision, not one said Darling was taking a dive and all said that Davis was incredibly stupid and gave the umpire no option but to pay the free.

If we had lost a game after one of our defenders did that I'd be gutted and spitting the dummy as well....... but I'd be asking our player WTF were you thinking. That bloke lost his cool and had a total brain fart.

So typical of Blues supporters, blame the umpires, blame the AFL, blame the rules, blame the opposition but lets not blame the idiot in the Blues jumper who made a stupid, stupid decision.:thumbsdown:
 
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but should the sling on Murphy after he had gotten rid of the ball been paid downfield to Garlett?
 
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but should the sling on Murphy after he had gotten rid of the ball been paid downfield to Garlett?

Perhaps. Wasn't worth a wistle, Naitanui layed an effective tackle and Murphy was forced to get rid of it and the tackle didn't exactly linger.
 
Perhaps. Wasn't worth a wistle, Naitanui layed an effective tackle and Murphy was forced to get rid of it and the tackle didn't exactly linger.

But the umpire paid the free, only to bring it back to the wrong position. That's just displays the umpire's lack of knowledge on the rules of the game.
 
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but should the sling on Murphy after he had gotten rid of the ball been paid downfield to Garlett?

Shouldn't have been a free in the first place. Extremely weak.
 
But the umpire paid the free, only to bring it back to the wrong position. That's just displays the umpire's lack of knowledge on the rules of the game.

Well on to the next 50 / 50 decision which obviously cost the Blues the game.

What are we up to, umpiring decision / non decision 176?

How about that touched kick from Warock that Ellard caught (not marked as it was touched), slow mo replay showed it was touched, ball wobbled around and MacKenzie tackled Ellard only to be marched back to the goal square after Blues got a 50m penalty.

Oh, you forgot about that umpiring call that gifted you another goal?:cool:

Seriously for every poor decision against you there was another in your favour. It's amazing how supporters quickly forget this and can only remember the free's that went against their team.
 
7:13 to go in the first quarter. Nicoski on the lead, Scotland holding onto him, Nicoski almost takes the mark, Scotland falls directly into his back and ends up sitting on his back and what's the call?

Free kick to Heath Scotland. Probably the worst of the night. No one had any idea what it was for, and watching the replay it still baffles me.

Lol. :thumbsu:
 
Well on to the next 50 / 50 decision which obviously cost the Blues the game.

What are we up to, umpiring decision / non decision 176?

How about that touched kick from Warock that Ellard caught (not marked as it was touched), slow mo replay showed it was touched, ball wobbled around and MacKenzie tackled Ellard only to be marched back to the goal square after Blues got a 50m penalty.

Oh, you forgot about that umpiring call that gifted you another goal?:cool:

Seriously for every poor decision against you there was another in your favour. It's amazing how supporters quickly forget this and can only remember the free's that went against their team.

The replay did not show it was touched, it was simply a wobbly kick. Also, the issue isn't the decision, but instead that the umpire paid the free in the wrong position. This is unlike the non free kicks (Shuey HTB/Duigan chopping the arms or even the Walker situation), it is an obvious mistake, that should not happen with AFL quality umpires.
 

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