List Mgmt. Trade and F/A - 2017/2018

[Matt_352]

I remember reading an article that suggested that teams with lower-turnover tend to do better on field. I remember hearing during the grandfinal that the whole back 6 of Richmond had played 3-4 years together. Rance, Houli, Vlaustin, Grimes and Astbury.
This is probably an aspect Collingwood is trying to follow with having a set back 6 for a few years. Only issue I see with this is our lack of developing KPD. It would be unreasonable to expect Mclarty to be the number one defender within the next 2 years, which emphasises the need for us to trade in Harry Petty.

Petty currently rated at 35 in a power ranking I saw. Chance to last till 36?

 

[jackcass]

Is he no longer with Kelsey Tomkins?

Is that what he was referring to in his speech at the Copeland? About a really tough year...

Don't actually know but some suggestion elsewhere on BF that he was seeing someone from the Magpies NB team.

 

[Matt_352]

Wouldnt put it past us to be playing down any interest in Schache to try and get him for cheap.

Draft of Fogarty, Richards, Petty, Tyler Brown

Picking up Murray and maybe offer a rookie spot to Mullett.

Clear the decks for an all out assault for Lynch and Sloane in 2018

 

[ThePhantom777]

He played with Curtly Hampton, who's now at the Crows, off the top of my head.

Jack Hombsch at Port too.

Yep. Very good mates with Curtly. Should get him to us.

 

[Rohan25]

What did Cats get for Mumford from Swans?

Pick 28.

 

[orion21]

So reading back nothing has happened today. I did see mullet was delisted by Roos. Would we look at him?

 

[Matt_352]

So reading back nothing has happened today. I did see mullet was delisted by Roos. Would we look at him?

Sure as a rookie why not

 

[Matt_352]

Wouldnt put it past us to be playing down any interest in Schache to try and get him for cheap.

Draft of Fogarty, Richards, Petty, Tyler Brown

Picking up Murray and maybe offer a rookie spot to Mullett.

Clear the decks for an all out assault for Lynch and Sloane in 2018

For Fogarty itll take Pick 6
Richards we will need to trade in a late first to early second
Petty we might be able to get with our 36
Tyler Brown we will get for one of our picks in the 50's

 

[wicksy]

No never recruit off stats. Making an assessment of a player based of a statistical output is terrible

It's a better model than recruiting who's "hot" in the papers.
if you think that recruiting Lever for 2 first rounders + $750,000 would be better than recruiting J.Howe for a fringe player and $400,000~, then you're high.

The outcome to the team is basically the same but you're not paying through the nose.

 

[wicksy]

I'm going through all the posts and trying to find where I said it was my opinion.

I said they don't get along. That's what I was told. They don't get along. How can it be an opinion of mine if I don't know either of them?

I can have an opinion on WHY Aish may feel rejected or like his coach doesn't want him or whatever. But me saying "they don't get along" comes from a person close to Aish. Not my opinion.

HFF said it for you .... For a good half an hour he deflected on your behalf.

 

[GreekLunatic]

So we delisted keefe so we do need another tall on the list

 

[Matt_352]

So we delisted keefe so we do need another tall on the list

Theyve announced delistings have they?

 

[GreekLunatic]

Theyve announced delistings have they?

According to this article yep
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...e/news-story/52ac5788f3bd35c79130ef1cf7dbcec9

 

[TW Sherrin]

I'm probably on my own here but if Lynch costs massive money I'd prefer we pass.

 

[CFC2010]

According to this article yep
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...e/news-story/52ac5788f3bd35c79130ef1cf7dbcec9

A perfect example of Collingwood List Management Fail 101.

 

[TW Sherrin]

According to this article yep
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...e/news-story/52ac5788f3bd35c79130ef1cf7dbcec9

A perfect example of Collingwood List Management Fail 101.

bizarre.

 

[Mongo Ming]

I had a thought.. with the perceived reluctance to give up future (2018) draft picks due to the supposed impending "superdraft" it would be interesting to look at the first round of the previous draft recruiters were touting as potentially being a superdraft, which was the 2011 draft.

Of all the players taken in the first round only three would probably be considered jets now (Coniglio, Greene, Wingard) and some other very handy types sure (like Adams, Patton, Docherty)..but apart from that, in hindsight it was fairly underwhelming. A lot of the players listed are no longer playing or never really came on.

So maybe unless there was a chance of getting a 1-3 pick next year, it may not be silly to throw those picks around? A lot can happen in a year.

Here's the list:

1 Jonathon Patton

2 Stephen Coniglio

3 Dom Tyson

4 Will Hoskin-Elliott

5 Matt Buntine

6 Chad Wingard

7 Nick Haynes

8 Billy Longer

9 Adam Tomlinson

10 Liam Sumner

11 Toby Greene

12 Sam Docherty

13 Taylor Adams

14 Devon Smith

15 Brandon Ellis

16 Tom Sheridan

17 Clay Smith

18 Brad McKenzie

19 Elliot Kavanagh

20 Hayden Crozier

21 (F/S) Tom Mitchell

22 Josh Bootsma

23 Murray Newman

24 Henry Schade

25 Sebastian Ross

26 Todd Elton

 

[nahnah]

I had a thought.. with the perceived reluctance to give up future (2018) draft picks due to the supposed impending "superdraft" it would be interesting to look at the first round of the previous draft recruiters were touting as potentially being a superdraft, which was the 2011 draft.

Of all the players taken in the first round only three would probably be considered jets now (Coniglio, Greene, Wingard) and some other very handy types sure (like Adams, Patton, Docherty)..but apart from that, in hindsight it was fairly underwhelming. A lot of the players listed are no longer playing or never really came on.

So maybe unless there was a chance of getting a 1-3 pick next year, it may not be silly to throw those picks around? A lot can happen in a year.

Here's the list:

1 Jonathon Patton

2 Stephen Coniglio

3 Dom Tyson

4 Will Hoskin-Elliott

5 Matt Buntine

6 Chad Wingard

7 Nick Haynes

8 Billy Longer

9 Adam Tomlinson

10 Liam Sumner

11 Toby Greene

12 Sam Docherty

13 Taylor Adams

14 Devon Smith

15 Brandon Ellis

16 Tom Sheridan

17 Clay Smith

18 Brad McKenzie

19 Elliot Kavanagh

20 Hayden Crozier

21 (F/S) Tom Mitchell

22 Josh Bootsma

23 Murray Newman

24 Henry Schade

25 Sebastian Ross

26 Todd Elton

Treloar and Hogan were suppose to be top 3 picks in that draft for memory

 

[Mongo Ming]

Treloar and Hogan were suppose to be top 3 picks in that draft for memory

True true.. but there’s still a heck of a lot of dead weight in there. And even if you add those two it’s still not really any more impressive than other years which I guess is my point.

 

[Horaceg]

I'm probably on my own here but if Lynch costs massive money I'd prefer we pass.

I tend to agree, will need to cough up some good money for Moore in the next few years, I think Moore will be in the same class but he does need support.

 

[surfer1]

A perfect example of Collingwood List Management Fail 101.

Not sure understand what your point is.

 

[CFC2010]

Not sure understand what your point is.

Keeping a bloke on the list for three years doing SFA is good list management?

 

[jefffff34]

How's the bloke quoting himself now? ^

 

[10571z]

Hearing Watts has chosen Geelong.

Don't Blame Him Choosing them over us. They are Better Ran and Way Closer to a Flag

How are they way closer to a flag. Then again im sure you said the same about Richmond compared to Geelong last year and Bulldogs the year before.

 

[TW Sherrin]

I tend to agree, will need to cough up some good money for Moore in the next few years, I think Moore will be in the same class but he does need support.

what I cant work out is why we have cap stress. treloar signed a club friendly deal. as did sidey. pendles is far and away the highest paid. reid isn't on big money. grundy signed for unders.

and pls nobody say its maynes fault.