You make some really good points. Atu and Phillips are not contentious IMO. They left for opportunity that we couldn't match, and we took advantage of that to clear their salary from our books. JS certainly there is more behind the scenes that lead to his departure, and possibly with AT as well. Whether we wanted them out because of that or whether that made them expendable because of our cap issues we may never know. And the club is on a hiding to nothing about putting out their side of the story. If we say anything like Walsh did this morning we are being mean and throwing the player under the bus, if we don't then the narrative of the player becomes the truth for many.I posted this in the trade review thread but thought I'd place this in here too...
Hopefully I ain't gunned down for this but here it goes....
My take:
-Phillips + Atu didnt bother me at all in terms of trade return.
I have wanted to offload for Phillips for the last few years and his $600k inflated contract made it even easier to do.
-Jaidyn StephensonPLAYERCARDSTART2Jaidyn Stephenson
- Age
- 25
- Ht
- 189cm
- Wt
- 79kg
- Pos.
- Fwd
CareerSeasonLast 5
- D
- 13.2
- 3star
- K
- 8.8
- 3star
- HB
- 4.4
- 3star
- M
- 4.7
- 4star
- T
- 2.6
- 4star
- G
- 1.5
- 5star
- D
- 11.0
- 3star
- K
- 6.7
- 3star
- HB
- 4.3
- 3star
- M
- 3.5
- 3star
- T
- 2.7
- 4star
- G
- 1.2
- 5star
- D
- 12.6
- 4star
- K
- 8.0
- 3star
- HB
- 4.6
- 4star
- M
- 3.4
- 4star
- T
- 3.4
- 5star
- G
- 1.4
- 5star
PLAYERCARDEND
This one, there's obviously more to it behind the scenes. Club was hell bent on getting rid of him and whilst I think he is a massive talent and am disappointed we didnt retain him, I wonder as to why there was only one genuine suitor which happened to be lowly North Melbourne for his services?
A kid who we all rate highly--and not one other club wanted him at a pretty cut throat price. Alarm bells?
- Adam TreloarPLAYERCARDSTART1Adam Treloar
- Age
- 31
- Ht
- 185cm
- Wt
- 84kg
- Pos.
- Mid
CareerSeasonLast 5
- D
- 28.2
- 5star
- K
- 12.9
- 5star
- HB
- 15.3
- 5star
- M
- 3.6
- 4star
- T
- 4.9
- 5star
- CL
- 4.6
- 5star
- D
- 30.3
- 5star
- K
- 16.3
- 5star
- HB
- 14.0
- 5star
- M
- 2.0
- 2star
- T
- 3.3
- 4star
- CL
- 5.8
- 5star
- D
- 18.0
- 5star
- K
- 11.2
- 4star
- HB
- 6.8
- 5star
- M
- 4.2
- 4star
- T
- 2.6
- 4star
- CL
- 1.6
- 4star
PLAYERCARDEND
The one that has polarised and divided fans the last few weeks....and i wont be popular here but once news started to break we were looking to offload him, i was hoping this deal would go through.
The main reason is I question his lifestyle choice and living arrangement and with his mental health concerns----it doesn't fill me with confidence.
Then you have the inflated salary and if reports are true the playing group wanting him shipped off.
I'm going to give people a bit of a breakdown purely on performance alone since Treloar has arrived at our club up until his departure and this may not sit well but this is factually all correct and accurate:
These are the 5 main names of our midfield (the core if you will)
-Scott PendleburyPLAYERCARDSTART10Scott Pendlebury
- Age
- 36
- Ht
- 191cm
- Wt
- 86kg
- Pos.
- Mid
CareerSeasonLast 5
- D
- 26.5
- 5star
- K
- 13.2
- 5star
- HB
- 13.3
- 5star
- M
- 4.1
- 4star
- T
- 4.9
- 5star
- CL
- 4.9
- 5star
- D
- 25.1
- 5star
- K
- 12.3
- 5star
- HB
- 12.9
- 5star
- M
- 3.4
- 3star
- T
- 2.3
- 3star
- CL
- 3.6
- 4star
- D
- 12.4
- 4star
- K
- 7.6
- 3star
- HB
- 4.8
- 4star
- M
- 5.8
- 5star
- T
- 2.6
- 4star
PLAYERCARDEND
-Taylor AdamsPLAYERCARDSTART3Taylor Adams
- Age
- 31
- Ht
- 181cm
- Wt
- 85kg
- Pos.
- M/F
CareerSeasonLast 5
- D
- 24.9
- 5star
- K
- 13.5
- 5star
- HB
- 11.4
- 5star
- M
- 4.0
- 4star
- T
- 4.8
- 5star
- CL
- 5.0
- 5star
- D
- 20.4
- 5star
- K
- 12.4
- 5star
- HB
- 8.0
- 4star
- M
- 4.0
- 4star
- T
- 5.9
- 5star
- CL
- 5.9
- 5star
- D
- 18.2
- 5star
- K
- 11.0
- 4star
- HB
- 7.2
- 5star
- M
- 4.4
- 4star
- T
- 3.0
- 5star
- CL
- 2.2
- 4star
PLAYERCARDEND
-Brodie GrundyPLAYERCARDSTART4Brodie Grundy
- Age
- 30
- Ht
- 202cm
- Wt
- 105kg
- Pos.
- Ruck
CareerSeasonLast 5
- D
- 17.5
- 4star
- K
- 8.0
- 3star
- HB
- 9.6
- 5star
- CL
- 4.1
- 5star
- HO
- 32.0
- 5star
- D
- 16.4
- 4star
- K
- 6.8
- 3star
- HB
- 9.6
- 5star
- CL
- 4.0
- 5star
- HO
- 34.6
- 5star
- D
- 13.8
- 4star
- K
- 5.2
- 2star
- HB
- 8.6
- 5star
- CL
- 2.6
- 5star
- HO
- 20.6
- 5star
PLAYERCARDEND
-Steele SidebottomPLAYERCARDSTART22Steele Sidebottom
- Age
- 33
- Ht
- 184cm
- Wt
- 86kg
- Pos.
- Mid
CareerSeasonLast 5
- D
- 27.4
- 5star
- K
- 14.1
- 5star
- HB
- 13.3
- 5star
- M
- 5.5
- 5star
- T
- 3.7
- 5star
- CL
- 3.2
- 5star
- D
- 24.0
- 5star
- K
- 12.0
- 5star
- HB
- 12.0
- 5star
- M
- 4.5
- 4star
- T
- 4.3
- 5star
- CL
- 2.3
- 4star
- D
- 31.6
- 5star
- K
- 14.4
- 5star
- HB
- 17.2
- 5star
- M
- 4.2
- 4star
- T
- 4.2
- 5star
- CL
- 6.0
- 5star
PLAYERCARDEND
-Adam TreloarPLAYERCARDSTART1Adam Treloar
- Age
- 31
- Ht
- 185cm
- Wt
- 84kg
- Pos.
- Mid
CareerSeasonLast 5
- D
- 28.2
- 5star
- K
- 12.9
- 5star
- HB
- 15.3
- 5star
- M
- 3.6
- 4star
- T
- 4.9
- 5star
- CL
- 4.6
- 5star
- D
- 30.3
- 5star
- K
- 16.3
- 5star
- HB
- 14.0
- 5star
- M
- 2.0
- 2star
- T
- 3.3
- 4star
- CL
- 5.8
- 5star
- D
- 18.0
- 5star
- K
- 11.2
- 4star
- HB
- 6.8
- 5star
- M
- 4.2
- 4star
- T
- 2.6
- 4star
- CL
- 1.6
- 4star
PLAYERCARDEND
The first 4 names in the same timeframe since Adam's spell at our club have either been an AA or had multiple AA jumpers; and have either won a BnF or won multiple BnFs too.
Adam Treloarhas zero in both categories.PLAYERCARDSTART1Adam Treloar
- Age
- 31
- Ht
- 185cm
- Wt
- 84kg
- Pos.
- Mid
CareerSeasonLast 5
- D
- 28.2
- 5star
- K
- 12.9
- 5star
- HB
- 15.3
- 5star
- M
- 3.6
- 4star
- T
- 4.9
- 5star
- CL
- 4.6
- 5star
- D
- 30.3
- 5star
- K
- 16.3
- 5star
- HB
- 14.0
- 5star
- M
- 2.0
- 2star
- T
- 3.3
- 4star
- CL
- 5.8
- 5star
- D
- 18.0
- 5star
- K
- 11.2
- 4star
- HB
- 6.8
- 5star
- M
- 4.2
- 4star
- T
- 2.6
- 4star
- CL
- 1.6
- 4star
PLAYERCARDEND
When you look at that--how can he be the highest paid player in the team almost let alone ahead of that midfield quartet when they've all had better achievements than him?
This makes him the most expendable name at the end of the day---it's brutal yes but it's true.
The club has made the difficult decision based on all of the above.
The only real issue I have is that the club isn't being transparent about all of this (not about the off field but where we are and why things played out the way they did). One thing I think this off season with us has highlighted is the immaturity of the AFL in general when it comes to player movement. In the US players can be traded in contract at a moments notice and the clubs don't always speak to their player before the trade goes through. It's brutal but that's the way the business goes. In the NRL players have full free agency and can sign with a new club twelve months out. So you can spend a full year supporting a player where it is publicly acknowledged they are moving to another club in the next season and know where they are going.
In the AFL both clubs and players can't handle those sort of ideas around player movement. We are kind of stuck between the business of modern professional sport, and the old fashioned player/club loyalty that goes back to the pre-professional era. I think that's why I give credence to the assertion that Cox was discussed as possibly being offloaded but he took that much better than JS and AT. Growing up in the US that was just the brutal side of professional sport.