List Mgmt. Trade and F/A 2020 Cont’d

[Spuddd]

He turns it over more than the few brain fades Maynard has.
Big and emphatic no.

Would I expect him to play week in, week out - No.

But, our half back depth isn't a strong point. People want Maynard to spend time in the middle and Mayne out. I don't necessarily see Mayne losing his spot, but at his age, you cant expect 22 games plus finals with out a reprieve.

To get a guy that's played 150 games (and is effectively a poor mans Maynard) on the cheap, maybe even a rookie deal, I cant see as a bad thing.

 

[pies 4 ever]

My bad, i haven't followed the game much this year, must have been a game Geelong were playing where a commentator said he was In the mix for AA or unlucky not to make it, think it was Henderson.

Tom Stewart???

 

[sr36]

Who have you identified? The only guys I’m looking at that should be on a list, IMO, are Scharenberg, McDonald, Parker, Pittard and Gallucci. The rest are either real speculative, will wind up re-rookied or are past it. None of those 5 are guys I would describe as likely types and in any other year they’d just be viewed as list cloggers...

I haven't identified anyone. That quick saints guy whose name escapes me has certainly got some attributes that are in short supply at the Pies, but I haven’t seen enough of him to have a real opinion. I'm more just speculating on reasons why this year may be anomalous in terms of dfa success. The other factor is there are probably some guys who just didn't cope with the hubs.

 

[stevebbb]

I would look at Sam Skinner

31

Sam Skinner

Age

27

Ht

197cm

Wt

99kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.0

2star

K

4.0

2star

HB

5.0

4star

M

1.0

1star

T

3.0

5star

MG

101.0

2star

No current season stats available

D

9.0

3star

K

4.0

2star

HB

5.0

4star

M

1.0

1star

T

3.0

5star

MG

101.0

2star

. 2 or 3 knee recos (poor bloke), but finally got a few games this year. Only 23 years old and almost 200cm. Will come at minimum wage considering he would have been on peanuts at the Lions with all his injuries. Can play back or forward (and probably ruck). Last knee reco was in 2017/2018, has played for a couple years now (including a full NEAFL season where they won the flag and went undefeated)

 

[Jafo]

Asked it a couple of weeks ago and the likes of Saints putting the question to Chips Frawley, any suitable players worth asking to lace up in the Black & White for a year or so?

 

[pies 4 ever]

I haven't identified anyone. That quick saints guy whose name escapes me has certainly got some attributes that are in short supply at the Pies, but I haven’t seen enough of him to have a real opinion. I'm more just speculating on reasons why this year may be anomalous in terms of dfa success. The other factor is there are probably some guys who just didn't cope with the hubs.

I'm surprised few have mentioned Toby Wooller, who was highly rated in the 2017 draft, now 22, 195cm, 90 kg, Midfield/Forward. Did not get a game at Lions behind Hipwood & others and with Daniher now coming in was delisted. Worth a look??

 

[Apples]

I haven't identified anyone. That quick saints guy whose name escapes me has certainly got some attributes that are in short supply at the Pies, but I haven’t seen enough of him to have a real opinion. I'm more just speculating on reasons why this year may be anomalous in terms of dfa success. The other factor is there are probably some guys who just didn't cope with the hubs.

This gets a like purely for the use of anomalous.

 

[Gymnorhina tibic]

Asked it a couple of weeks ago and the likes of Saints putting the question to Chips Frawley, any suitable players worth asking to lace up in the Black & White for a year or so?

Dayne Beams

11

Dayne Beams

Age

34

Ht

187cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

25.6

5star

K

13.2

5star

HB

12.4

5star

M

4.5

4star

T

3.6

5star

CL

4.9

5star

No current season stats available

D

15.6

4star

K

6.6

3star

HB

9.0

5star

M

4.6

5star

T

2.6

4star

?

 

[mike123]

I haven't identified anyone. That quick saints guy whose name escapes me has certainly got some attributes that are in short supply at the Pies, but I haven’t seen enough of him to have a real opinion. I'm more just speculating on reasons why this year may be anomalous in terms of dfa success. The other factor is there are probably some guys who just didn't cope with the hubs.

The quick Saints guy is Parker who Scodog listed

 

[Johno9911]

With the lack of VFL footy this year, I think there could be some value in picking up a few young DFA's and seeing how they develop in 2021 if/when VFL footy starts back up. Some of these 2nd-3rd year players being cut from their clubs have missed out on an important 12 months in their development and could really come on with another year in the AFL system and a return of consistent VFL footy.

Additionally next years draft could run deep, there could be a host of prospect who don't get picked up this year that will go around as 19 year old's in various leagues and pathways and really impress, might be worth holding a spot for a midyear draft if there is to be one in 2021.

 

[Jafo]

Dayne Beams

11

Dayne Beams

Age

34

Ht

187cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

25.6

5star

K

13.2

5star

HB

12.4

5star

M

4.5

4star

T

3.6

5star

CL

4.9

5star

No current season stats available

D

15.6

4star

K

6.6

3star

HB

9.0

5star

M

4.6

5star

T

2.6

4star

?

Due to Artistic differences, this relationship between club and player is no longer viable.

 

[Jen2310]

Townsend, who played 12 matches this season, joins rookie ruckman Henry Crauford in being cut ahead of 2021.

It comes as defender Martin Gleeson and midfielder Dylan Clarke were informed they will be delisted with the promise of being re-rookied by the Bombers next month.

Flag hero among four Dons delisted, rookie promise for duo

Essendon has announced further changes to its list

www.afl.com.au

 

[stevebbb]

Townsend, who played 12 matches this season, joins rookie ruckman Henry Crauford in being cut ahead of 2021.

It comes as defender Martin Gleeson and midfielder Dylan Clarke were informed they will be delisted with the promise of being re-rookied by the Bombers next month.

Flag hero among four Dons delisted, rookie promise for duo

Essendon has announced further changes to its list

www.afl.com.au

I don't mind Dylan Clarke

37

Dylan Clarke

Age

26

Ht

187cm

Wt

87kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.9

4star

K

6.1

2star

HB

8.8

5star

M

1.9

2star

T

6.3

5star

CL

2.3

4star

No current season stats available

D

16.0

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

9.2

5star

M

2.2

3star

T

6.6

5star

CL

3.4

5star

. Was made to play as a tagger and in the forward line, so he didn't get a lot of footy, but I reckon he's got some grunt about him. I'd be interested

 

[jatsad]

Would I expect him to play week in, week out - No.

But, our half back depth isn't a strong point. People want Maynard to spend time in the middle and Mayne out. I don't necessarily see Mayne losing his spot, but at his age, you cant expect 22 games plus finals with out a reprieve.

To get a guy that's played 150 games (and is effectively a poor mans Maynard) on the cheap, maybe even a rookie deal, I cant see as a bad thing.

You are kidding right?
We have plenty of half-backs.

Defence this year was our solid point and still have Howe to come back in. Murphy won the VFL best player award and can fill that spot as well.
Also have Bianco who is an elite kick.

Pittard has been discarded by 2 teams now. His kicking is woeful and we have enough of those.

No thanks.

 

[gouki88]

Townsend, who played 12 matches this season, joins rookie ruckman Henry Crauford in being cut ahead of 2021.

It comes as defender Martin Gleeson and midfielder Dylan Clarke were informed they will be delisted with the promise of being re-rookied by the Bombers next month.

Flag hero among four Dons delisted, rookie promise for duo

Essendon has announced further changes to its list

www.afl.com.au

Crazy that Townsend went from kicking 16 goals in 5 in a flag winning side just 3 years ago to now, delisted by Essendon of all clubs.

 

[gouki88]

Would I expect him to play week in, week out - No.

But, our half back depth isn't a strong point. People want Maynard to spend time in the middle and Mayne out. I don't necessarily see Mayne losing his spot, but at his age, you cant expect 22 games plus finals with out a reprieve.

To get a guy that's played 150 games (and is effectively a poor mans Maynard) on the cheap, maybe even a rookie deal, I cant see as a bad thing.

Got a good laugh at "poor mans Maynard". What similarities are there?

 

[Kirby]

I'm surprised few have mentioned Toby Wooller, who was highly rated in the 2017 draft, now 22, 195cm, 90 kg, Midfield/Forward. Did not get a game at Lions behind Hipwood & others and with Daniher now coming in was delisted. Worth a look??

Derek Hine was very much into him in his draft year.

 

[manicpie]

I'm surprised few have mentioned Toby Wooller, who was highly rated in the 2017 draft, now 22, 195cm, 90 kg, Midfield/Forward. Did not get a game at Lions behind Hipwood & others and with Daniher now coming in was delisted. Worth a look??

If he couldn't get a game ahead of McStay, then he can't be that good

 

[Thefly38]

That’s not a DFA, that’s just standard practice to transfer a player from the senior to the rookie list.

I think you will find he was delisted and given a reprieve have heard interviews where he says was about to book airfares etc and lucky they gave him a spot re covid etc lots of lols

 

[Apex36]

Would I expect him to play week in, week out - No.

But, our half back depth isn't a strong point. People want Maynard to spend time in the middle and Mayne out. I don't necessarily see Mayne losing his spot, but at his age, you cant expect 22 games plus finals with out a reprieve.

To get a guy that's played 150 games (and is effectively a poor mans Maynard) on the cheap, maybe even a rookie deal, I cant see as a bad thing.

Maynard, Crisp, Noble, Quaynor, Madgen, Howe, Bianco, Murphy, Mayne, Langdon*. I don’t get the notion that we don’t have much back half depth. If anything, we have more depth in that area of the ground than anywhere else. Yeah a couple of guys are inexperienced, but I’d rather be giving them games than handing them to guys who were delisted from lesser clubs because they weren’t up to it. The only thing we need in our defensive depth is another KPD.

 

[Leviathan Pie]

Derek Hine was very much into him in his draft year.

So put a line through him then.

 

[sr36]

I think you will find he was delisted and given a reprieve have heard interviews where he says was about to book airfares etc and lucky they gave him a spot re covid etc lots of lols

To move them to the rookie list, you have to delist them and then redraft them.

 

[sr36]

Maynard, Crisp, Noble, Quaynor, Madgen, Howe, Bianco, Murphy, Mayne, Langdon*. I don’t get the notion that we don’t have much back half depth. If anything, we have more depth in that area of the ground than anywhere else. Yeah a couple of guys are inexperienced, but I’d rather be giving them games than handing them to guys who were delisted from lesser clubs because they weren’t up to it. The only thing we need in our defensive depth is another KPD.

And even then, we need a draftee for the future more than short term depth.

 

[Quicky]

If he couldn't get a game ahead of McStay, then he can't be that good

Very different stages of development. Wooller was a 3rd year player this year unable to play reserves. Hard to stake a claim in that environment. Well worth a look in imo.

 

[Wattlebird]

Maynard, Crisp, Noble, Quaynor, Madgen, Howe, Bianco, Murphy, Mayne, Langdon*. I don’t get the notion that we don’t have much back half depth. If anything, we have more depth in that area of the ground than anywhere else. Yeah a couple of guys are inexperienced, but I’d rather be giving them games than handing them to guys who were delisted from lesser clubs because they weren’t up to it. The only thing we need in our defensive depth is another KPD.

Completely with you here. Youngsters need that playing time to develop. A pseudo-rebuild phase is the best time to do it I think.