List Mgmt. Trade and F/A 2020 Cont’d

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Apex36 said:
He was out of the system for a year after he was delisted by Freo, so not sure he would have even qualified for DFA under that criteria.
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I didn't realise he was out for a year, but I think if you've been previously listed, you do qualify to be signed up without needing to go through the draft.


Edit. Just read up on it. I'm full of it. Got to be the year you were delisted or not drafted.
 
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With pick 2 we have the benefit of live trading. If McDonald is our target we can wait to see what happens with pick 1 and then try to live trade for pick 2 on the night if he's still available. It's incredibly risky of course, but just pointing out it doesn't need to be a guessing game.
 
Chrispiesssss said:
If you mention this father comment 1 more time, I will be blocking you.

I’ve been on this forum for years and not blocked anyone.

Speak with respect. How is that a hard concept to understand?
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When you say you'll block him Chris, do you mean you'll place him on Ignore? Or am I missing an important feature?
 

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Of the DFA's I like the idea of Toby Wooller from Brisbane as a key forward. Averaged 2 goals a game in 2019, up from 1 goal a game in 2018 (his first season) demonstrating development. Didn't play this season due COVID cancelling the NEAFL. I liked him in his draft year.

I also reckon the most talented key position DFA is Majak Daw. He's duel position and can provide coverage forward, back and ruck. I like him in defence. Short term prospect at his age though.

Matthew Parker offers speed, hardness and can kick goals. As an option Iike him but not sure about the rumoured character issues. I wouldn't go there if they're true.

I'm not advocating for these guys but some other DFA's that have played quality AFL level footy include Cameron McCarthy, Corey Ellis, Mason Wood, Jasper Pittard, Brandon Matera, Oscar McDonald and Mitchell Hibberd. There's obviously reasons they were delisted but at their best they offered a bit.
 
Quicky said:
Of the DFA's I like the idea of Toby Wooller from Brisbane as a key forward. Averaged 2 goals a game in 2019, up from 1 goal a game in 2018 (his first season) demonstrating development. Didn't play this season due COVID cancelling the NEAFL. I liked him in his draft year.

I also reckon the most talented key position DFA is Majak Daw. He's duel position and can provide coverage forward, back and ruck. I like him in defence. Short term prospect at his age though.

Matthew Parker offers speed, hardness and can kick goals. As an option Iike him but not sure about the rumoured character issues. I wouldn't go there if they're true.

I'm not advocating for these guys but some other DFA's that have played quality AFL level footy include Cameron McCarthy, Corey Ellis, Mason Wood, Jasper Pittard, Brandon Matera, Oscar McDonald and Mitchell Hibberd. There's obviously reasons they were delisted but at their best they offered a bit.
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Yep I’d be very happy to give Wooller a lifeline. We could do a helluva lot worse.

EDIT: Ex-Oakleigh player too which might help his cause.
 
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Apex36 said:
Probably the best example of a DFA coming good is Lyons at Brisbane, but tbh it’s baffling why GC ever delisted him in the first place. He was never a bad player.
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Thats an easy one, Dew tried to turn Lyons into something that he wasn't - a more balanced mid in terms of getting outside on the spread away from stoppages more - instead of taking best advantage of what he is, a pure inside contested ball accumulator at the stoppages.

In the end he got frustrated that Lyons couldn't play the role that he wanted him to in the manner he wanted him to, so Lyons was shipped out.

Kinda sounds familiar doesn't it, a coach trying to turn a specific player into something they're not to play a specific "role", rather than working out how best to take full advantage of the player they are, or rather the skill set they already possess.
 
Quicky said:
Of the DFA's I like the idea of Toby Wooller from Brisbane as a key forward. Averaged 2 goals a game in 2019, up from 1 goal a game in 2018 (his first season) demonstrating development. Didn't play this season due COVID cancelling the NEAFL. I liked him in his draft year.

I also reckon the most talented key position DFA is Majak Daw. He's duel position and can provide coverage forward, back and ruck. I like him in defence. Short term prospect at his age though.

Matthew Parker offers speed, hardness and can kick goals. As an option Iike him but not sure about the rumoured character issues. I wouldn't go there if they're true.

I'm not advocating for these guys but some other DFA's that have played quality AFL level footy include Cameron McCarthy, Corey Ellis, Mason Wood, Jasper Pittard, Brandon Matera, Oscar McDonald and Mitchell Hibberd. There's obviously reasons they were delisted but at their best they offered a bit.
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The discussion re Parker on the Saints board seems reasonably positive - not any real mention of off-field issues and quite a few were sad to see him delisted.

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jsdsgn said:
Who? There arent even any Geelong defenders in the AA team, unless Patrick Dangerfield, Tom Hawkins or Cam Guthrie are defenders now?
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My bad, i haven't followed the game much this year, must have been a game Geelong were playing where a commentator said he was In the mix for AA or unlucky not to make it, think it was Henderson.
 
Henderson become a consistent part of Geelong's defence, however from 2019 he struggled to play at the AFL level. After 54 games for Geelong, he was delisted at the end of 2019.[citation needed] But received a reprieve, after being selected with pick #35 in the rookie draft.
 

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partypie said:
You can only have two Cat B rookies, so one of Tohill or Keane is Cat A (side note: did we ever figure out which one was which?).

We don't have to go in with the full 44 players and, given the state of our cap and how heavy our top end contracts still are (despite clearing 1.5 mil+ of salary net for next year), I'd guess we wont be going in with a full list of 44 next year.
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Tohill is the Cat B.
 
DaVe86 said:
I dont think he is much... but i also don't think he is as bad as some have said.

Just haven't seen much of him given how far down the pecking order he dropped.

The point for me is that I wouldn't expect him to be a world beater...just an emergency if we lose roughead.

If you can find me someone better that is available, then we'll and good
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Looking at the list DFA's the key defensive options are Oscar McDonald, Majak Daw, Sam Durdin, Noah Gown, Hugh Goddard, James Frawley (ret. rumoured could go around again), Riley Grundy, Jackson Trengove.
 
Quicky said:
Looking at the list DFA's the key defensive options are Oscar McDonald, Majak Daw, Sam Durdin, Noah Gown, Hugh Goddard, James Frawley (ret. rumoured could go around again), Riley Grundy, Jackson Trengove.
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I think I just vomited into my mouth a little. May have also reflexively just pooed a little at the same time, but I'm not game enough to look down and check.
 
Lip Gallagher said:
No, he was delisted last year and the Cats used rookie pick 35 to get him back, was DFA.
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That’s not a DFA, that’s just standard practice to transfer a player from the senior to the rookie list.
 
I don’t know why any club wastes their time with DFA’s because the hit rate on them is abysmal.

The only success story that springs to mind, as Apex pointed out, is Lyons and that was a WTF moment on the Suns behalf. IMO, the reason they don’t work out is because clubs know when a guy isn’t up to it. On the rare occasion clubs cut them loose too early it’s generally the result of incompetence in the football department, but the attitude of supporters is one of “player x can’t get a game at a bottom 2 club so why would we take him” so they get overlooked anyway.

An example might be Gallucci I’m not saying he’s for us because he didn’t show anything, but rather he’s been cut from a shit club after only 4 seasons and injuries. Personally though I’d look to interstate state leagues or back in our talent ID at the end of the draft if we need to fill out the list.
 
Scodog10 said:
I don’t know why any club wastes their time with DFA’s because the hit rate on them is abysmal.

The only success story that springs to mind, as Apex pointed out, is Lyons and that was a WTF moment on the Suns behalf. IMO, the reason they don’t work out is because clubs know when a guy isn’t up to it. On the rare occasion clubs cut them loose too early it’s generally the result of incompetence in the football department, but the attitude of supporters is one of “player x can’t get a game at a bottom 2 club so why would we take him” so they get overlooked anyway.

An example might be Gallucci I’m not saying he’s for us because he didn’t show anything, but rather he’s been cut from a sh*t club after only 4 seasons and injuries. Personally though I’d look to interstate state leagues or back in our talent ID at the end of the draft if we need to fill out the list.
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One of the reasons why dfa failure rate is so high is that the more likely guys who are going to be delisted don't go as dfa, they go as good will trades for picks in the 90s. This year, I wouldn’t rule out dfa. List shrinkage and a lack of those good will trades may see some pretty likely guys available.
 
Quicky said:
Looking at the list DFA's the key defensive options are Oscar McDonald, Majak Daw, Sam Durdin, Noah Gown, Hugh Goddard, James Frawley (ret. rumoured could go around again), Riley Grundy, Jackson Trengove.
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The one you're missing is Pittard.

Id take him too - allows Maynard to spend time in the midfield and replaces Mayne if required - depth player.
 
sr36 said:
One of the reasons why dfa failure rate is so high is that the more likely guys who are going to be delisted don't go as dfa, they go as good will trades for picks in the 90s. This year, I wouldn’t rule out dfa. List shrinkage and a lack of those good will trades may see some pretty likely guys available.
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Who have you identified? The only guys I’m looking at that should be on a list, IMO, are Scharenberg, McDonald, Parker, Pittard and Gallucci. The rest are either real speculative, will wind up re-rookied or are past it. None of those 5 are guys I would describe as likely types and in any other year they’d just be viewed as list cloggers...
 
Spuddd said:
The one you're missing is Pittard.

Id take him too - allows Maynard to spend time in the midfield and replaces Mayne if required - depth player.
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Was a list of Key Defenders. Pittard is one of the better credentialled DFA's. Not sure we'd go there after dumping Treloar and Stephenson for their one way running. If we did it'd make a lie of that decision.
 
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