Mega Thread Trade and List Management discussion

[Mofra]

suckling

I don't think Murph will be right for round 1, but the time he's ready we'll have injuries.

Add Suckling and Campbell to that bench and that's the nucleus of our core 25 or so.
We don't have a problem rotating heavily so we'll probably use most of the players on our list again like 2015 & 2016

 

[Mofra]

Wallis...

Wouldn't expect him or Redpath next year to play at all. Redders may be a late chance.

 

[murphy2bedabest]

Roberts sits behind Adams, Morris and Hurley (if we get him) meaning he plays VFL. Not to mention we already have Collins, Hamling and Cordy as depth. Now obviously Collins and Cordy will be given 2 - 3 more seasons to get to Afl Level and Hamling probably doesn't have as much currency as Roberts.

I'd be trading one of Roberts/Hamling (whomever has more value). Don't need 7 KPDs on the list. Remember this is if we got Hurley or another KPD. If not then our defensive stocks should stay the same.

Cloke vickery Griffiths vardy casbolt ect have all been muted around as possible key forward targets, some people think getting cover for Redpath is now important.

Now these guys all have question marks over them and would cost to bring them to the club, I don't think anyone would come without a 3 year contract.

Roberts Adams cordy and maybe even Hurley have all or all could play or pinch hit forward, so are the players we have better than any option than any player we are looking at bringing to the club ?

Also remember if we do get a Nicholls type ruckman it will mean Roughead plays more forward as well, plus we have to remember about injuries.

 

[ossie_21]

Cloke vickery Griffiths vardy casbolt ect have all been muted around as possible key forward targets, some people think getting cover for Redpath is now important.

Now these guys all have question marks over them and would cost to bring them to the club, I don't think anyone would come without a 3 year contract.

Roberts Adams cordy and maybe even Hurley have all or all could play or pinch hit forward, so are the players we have better than any option than any player we are looking at bringing to the club ?

Also remember if we do get a Nicholls type ruckman it will mean Roughead plays more forward as well, plus we have to remember about injuries.

Would rather give a mature age state league key forward a chance via a low pick or rookie spot that a high wage list clogger

 

[Dogsman16]

Would rather give a mature age state league key forward a chance via a low pick or rookie spot that a high wage list clogger

I've thrown this up (even though he is quite spuddish) but if Cam Pedesen is a DFA I'd consider signing him on a one year low pay deal. Depth key forward that plays in case of injury and gets Stringer away from playing as a tall. He probably going to offer more than any draftee or state level player in 2017 and would come cheap.

 

[murphy2bedabest]

Would rather give a mature age state league key forward a chance via a low pick or rookie spot that a high wage list clogger

Again isn't fletcher Roberts just that? A mature age state (VFL) player. Unless he gets a 3 year offer from another club, I think he would be happy getting $120k + next year for playing his role for us, might mean the season with Footscray but if he went to Willy or port he won't be on anything like that.

Having players like Roberts who understands their role for the tear are just as important to have on your list, because they allow the club to spend money else where

 

[Mattdougie]

Again isn't fletcher Roberts just that? A mature age state (VFL) player. Unless he gets a 3 year offer from another club, I think he would be happy getting $120k + next year for playing his role for us, might mean the season with Footscray but if he went to Willy or port he won't be on anything like that.

Having players like Roberts who understands their role for the tear are just as important to have on your list, because they allow the club to spend money else where

So at the risk of being abused again isn't that what Jong is?

If we are fully fit he is playing a full year in the VFL next year so why do people think he deserves 3 years at 300+?

All Depth players should be on no more than 2 years and 250k at the very most. If they want more(and no this isn't only Jong) let them go we should never overpay for depth players they are everywhere.

 

[Dogsman16]

So at the risk of being abused again isn't that what Jong is?

If fully fit he is playing a full year in the VFL next year so why do people think he deserves 3 yeas at 300+?

All Depth players should be on no more than 2 years and 250k at the very most. If they want more(and no this isn't only Jong) let them go we should ever pay for depth players they are eveywhere.

100 percent agree mate.

 

[threenewpadlocks]

Would rather give a mature age state league key forward a chance via a low pick or rookie spot that a high wage list clogger

Yep.
Ideally whoever we recruit as a backup key depth won't play a game at all if Boyd, Cordy and Roughead don't get injured, so why would we out-bid other clubs for somebody like Vickery or Cloke when in an ideal situation won't play a game at all?
Recruit the best player we can with the filter that they play for a draftee or minimum wage, whether that be a DFA from somewhere or a mature aged draftee etc.
As much as I think Vardy is finished as a player and pretty much a spud I'd much rather him on a minimum-contract as a DFA than I would spending $400k or whatever to recruit Vickery as a free agent.

 

[BRWB]

Yep.
Ideally whoever we recruit as a backup key depth won't play a game at all if Boyd, Cordy and Roughead don't get injured, so why would we out-bid other clubs for somebody like Vickery or Cloke when in an ideal situation won't play a game at all?
Recruit the best player we can with the filter that they play for a draftee or minimum wage, whether that be a DFA from somewhere or a mature aged draftee etc.
As much as I think Vardy is finished as a player and pretty much a spud I'd much rather him on a minimum-contract as a DFA than I would spending $400k or whatever to recruit Vickery as a free agent.

Cordy isn't a lock. Not even close. Little as I rate them, Cloke and Vickery would smash him as a fwd.

 

[Bont2Bruce]

Wouldn't expect him or Redpath next year to play at all. Redders may be a late chance.

Yeah, I came to the same view myself and deleted the post. They must train for lightning reflexes at the FlightCentre school.

 

[murphy2bedabest]

So at the risk of being abused again isn't that what Jong is?

If we are fully fit he is playing a full year in the VFL next year so why do people think he deserves 3 years at 300+?

All Depth players should be on no more than 2 years and 250k at the very most. If they want more(and no this isn't only Jong) let them go we should never overpay for depth players they are everywhere.

Agree 100%

 

[dergert]

Niall thinks we might’ve went overseas to meet with Hurley. We are committed if true.

 

[dergert]

Ok, it isn't going to happen but I only want players to play for my team that want to be there regardless of who they are.

 

[ThirdLegUp]

Niall thinks we might’ve went overseas to meet with Hurley. We are committed if true.

If we did that then yes, we are not only interested, we are taking hostages and giving death threats. I approve.

 

[dergert]

Also love the sen caller who said that Jake Carlisle is a better chb than Hurley.
Also won a prize for that call. Dumb.

 

[TiAn_]

Was told last week that Xavier Ellis was going to retire and Reece Conca had a contract offer from the Eagles.

Since the first one has just turned out to be correct, thought I'd share.

Not that it's particularly interesting.

 

[jdz101]

Also love the sen caller who said that Jake Carlisle is a better chb than Hurley.
Also won a prize for that call. Dumb.

Whilst I agree with you I dont believe the gap is that large that its laughable.

 

[Bemoreboyddog]

How on earth did Declan Hamilton get a contract extension?

 

[Mofra]

How on earth did Declan Hamilton get a contract extension?

Source?
Surprising if true.

 

[Bemoreboyddog]

Source?
Surprising if true.

In the same article as Morris re-signing for next year.

 

[Pugz89]

Be plenty for me and my family lol.

Just saying if he got offered 1mil vs 600k which would a family man pick?

It depends if he wants to teach his kids a lesson on loyalty

 

[dergert]

If Hamilton could get it together, his attributes would be a boost to our snr side. Here's to hoping!

 

[Dry Rot]

How on earth did Declan Hamilton get a contract extension?

If so, anyone else beginning to wonder why Moyd hasn't got another year yet?

Ditto the Rat and Clay Smith?

 

[Mofra]

If so, anyone else beginning to wonder why Moyd hasn't got another year yet?

I assume Hamilton would've been offered base salary and accepted it. Boyd asking for a little more?