Mega Thread Trade and List Management discussion

[Flags_In_The_Bag]

I think Nicholls will come good with time, just his durability worries me a little, though it's not as bad as Vardy's

Seen Grundy start to flourish once handed the sole number 1 role at the Pies for example


No on B Ellis, way too similar to Hunter, both do not have an attacking element to their games and I can't see what value having them two + Macrae in the same midfield who aren't damaging by foot


Would much rather Stephen Hill if we wanted a wingman, beautiful kick of the footy and punishes teams when required

Hunter was a forward flank forward pocket player in his junior years i am sure he is ok forward, just misses shots once in a while like most forwards

 

[fronkalicious]

Anyone know who Wallis's manager might be? And who is in that managers stable of players.
Because I believe wallis' manager met with Beveridge this morning

Ramanauskas from Craig Kelly's group. Formerly ESP, then purchased by a big US group called TLA worldwide. Same group own Melbourne City and the Storm.

 

[Mattdougie]

Anyone know who Wallis's manager might be? And who is in that managers stable of players.
Because I believe wallis' manager met with Beveridge this morning

Bev wouldn't meet players agents it's not his portfolio

 

[go you pups]

Hunter was a forward flank forward pocket player in his junior years i am sure he is ok forward, just misses shots once in a while like most forwards

He can crumb goals but we are yet to see him kicking goals on the run from handball receives, yet to see him deliver bullets hitting up Stringer, Redpath etc


Dahl, Stringer and Daniel are far more accomplished in their finishing/delivery compared to Hunter imo

 

[BRWB]

Cant trade a first and second in same yr

Only if they're future picks IIRC

 

[immortalmike]

He can crumb goals but we are yet to see him kicking goals on the run from handball receives, yet to see him deliver bullets hitting up Stringer, Redpath etc


Dahl, Stringer and Daniel are far more accomplished in their finishing/delivery compared to Hunter imo

It was drummed out of him in his early years. Now he seems gun shy. Used to be a bit too selfish, now he's the complete opposite.

 

[go you pups]

It was drummed out of him in his early years. Now he seems gun shy. Used to be a bit too selfish, now he's the complete opposite.

He used to do things that makes Dunstall melt like the dribble kicks and stuff that lead him to being dropped in 2014

He just has to find the right balance of when to pull the trigger and when not to pull the trigger, I really hope he can work on this

 

[immortalmike]

He used to do things that makes Dunstall melt like the dribble kicks and stuff that lead him to being dropped in 2014

He just has to find the right balance of when to pull the trigger and when not to pull the trigger, I really hope he can work on this

Absolutely, it's a balancing act. I'm sure he's working on it all the time, I don't think he's still anywhere near the final product.

 

[go you pups]

Absolutely, it's a balancing act. I'm sure he's working on it all the time, I don't think he's still anywhere near the final product.

Macrae on the other hand I don't think has the potential to add a finishing product to his game, so adding a player like Ellis who is like the right footed version of Macrae/Hunter imo wouldn't help our midfield, he'll seagull and get a ton of the footy like the 2 we already have, but I have my doubts on him forward of centre

 

[immortalmike]

Macrae on the other hand I don't think has the potential to add a finishing product to his game, so adding a player like Ellis who is like the right footed version of Macrae/Hunter imo wouldn't help our midfield, he'll seagull and get a ton of the footy like the 2 we already have, but I have my doubts on him forward of centre

I'm not sure I agree with your assessment of Macrae, I think he definitely has the potential but I do agree that Ellis is not something we want or need.

 

[mambavino]

Ramanauskas from Craig Kelly's group. Formerly ESP, then purchased by a big US group called TLA worldwide. Same group own Melbourne City and the Storm.

Melbourne City is now 100% owned by the City Football Group (Sheikh Mansour). Bart Campbell (TLA) and other partners sold their 20% share.

 

[Maddog1980]

Remember the game against GC a couple of years back in the Mcartney era where he dominated the last quarter and kicked two goals both if I remember correctly about 40 out. He just seems to be be lacking confidence at having a shit in the last 18 months.

Edit: Lol I'm going to leave it

 

[Woofing]

I know it's a typo but that ^ made me laugh violently

Edit. How much confidence does one need ??

 

[BRWB]

Macrae on the other hand I don't think has the potential to add a finishing product to his game, so adding a player like Ellis who is like the right footed version of Macrae/Hunter imo wouldn't help our midfield, he'll seagull and get a ton of the footy like the 2 we already have, but I have my doubts on him forward of centre

Elite runners who can find the ball are the way of the future with reduced interchange coming IMO.

 

[Maddog1980]

Elite runners who can find the ball are the way of the future with reduced interchange coming IMO.

And dispose of it effectively

 

[Flags_In_The_Bag]

Macrae on the other hand I don't think has the potential to add a finishing product to his game, so adding a player like Ellis who is like the right footed version of Macrae/Hunter imo wouldn't help our midfield, he'll seagull and get a ton of the footy like the 2 we already have, but I have my doubts on him forward of centre

If you find his under 18 stats and you will have a different view

 

[BRWB]

And dispose of it effectively

Ellis would be a similar or better user than Hunter I'd imagine.

 

[Maddog1980]

Haven't seen enough of Ellis to comment appropriately. Didn't notice him much the other week when we played them.

Hunter doesn't seem to me to have the penetration in his kicking or hit targets regularly enough to take him to the next level. Tidy up his kicking, get a reasonable right foot and he could become really important player for us as we push the next couple of years. He's S igned up for an extension and can't see him wanting to leave due to our clubs postice future and relationships with our key players.

 

[BRWB]

Haven't seen enough of Ellis to comment appropriately. Didn't notice him much the other week when we played them.

Hunter doesn't seem to me to have the penetration in his kicking or hit targets regularly enough to take him to the next level. Tidy up his kicking, get a reasonable right foot and he could become really important player for us as we push the next couple of years. He's S igned up for an extension and can't see him wanting to leave due to our clubs postice future and relationships with our key players.

From what I've seen of Ellis he has more penetration than Hunter or Macrae but he can turn it over. Has been chip kicking a bit more recently bu that seems to be the Tiges shitty gameplan.

 

[bontshow]

Yeah I would be stunned if dogs moved Hunter but bombers are reaching likely he always do

Free agency aside, Hurley for Hunter is well in our favour

 

[jdz101]

Free agency aside, Hurley for Hunter is well in our favour

I disagree. Not saying it might not be in our favor but it's not as clean cut as you make it out. That's well overs considering he wants to go anyway.

 

[The Doctor]

He just seems to be be lacking confidence at having a shit in the last 18 months.

Edit: Lol I'm going to leave it

I'm sure he'll become more confident if he can improve his disposal.

 

[Smiley Boy]

Players with western suburbs links (asterisks for out of contract): B. Ellis, Cotchin, Houli*, Maric*, C. Ellis, McBean*, Menadue, Morris, Callum Moore (rookie)*

McBean would be my guess.

Menadue recently resigned

 

[bontshow]

I disagree. Not saying it might not be in our favor but it's not as clean cut as you make it out. That's well overs considering he wants to go anyway.

Matter of opinion I guess but Hurley is worth a top 5 pick and $800k to me, Hunter a late first rounder and $500k

 

[Dry Rot]

Matter of opinion I guess but Hurley is worth a top 5 pick and $800k to me, Hunter a late first rounder and $500k

In a normal open market.

But what's going to happen with a top line player contracted to a club which has dismally failed its duty of care to its players, found guilty by the AFL, WADA and Worksafe, whose manager reckons that club is a bunch of campaigners and who has access to a grievance process to declare him a DFA which will undoubtedly succeed?

I reckon we offer them our first rounder in good faith and if they piss around, say all bets off and go down the DFA route.

**** them.