Strategy Trade and List management Thread Part 2 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

[mattwa]

Careful what you wish for my friend. We might meet your side. I would love that.

Dream scenario 90k at the G

 

[Virgin Dog]

What have you blokes made of Sam Lloyd?

Such a perfect example of why sometimes a player needs to move clubs to see success. There was too much competition for his spot in Richmond's side, and he seems far more suited to not only our list demographic, but also our playstyle. Honestly such a trade bargain, couldn't be happier with him. The only recent trade that rivals this one is the Crozier pickup who we also got dirt cheap. Seems like a top bloke too, I'm glad Richmond were so supportive of his move, unlike some of the other ****wit clubs that try hold a fringe 22 player to their contract just because they can't milk other clubs at the trade table

 

[AuntyBlindEye]

Such a perfect example of why sometimes a player needs to move clubs to see success. There was too much competition for his spot in Richmond's side, and he seems far more suited to not only our list demographic, but also our playstyle. Honestly such a trade bargain, couldn't be happier with him. The only recent trade that rivals this one is the Crozier pickup who we also got dirt cheap. Seems like a top bloke too, I'm glad Richmond were so supportive of his move, unlike some of the other ******* clubs that try hold a fringe 22 player to their contract just because they can't milk other clubs at the trade table

Yeah it's for the best sometimes. Nank, Caddy and Prestia spring to mind for the Tiges. Won a flag their first year.

Lloydy was one of my favourite players. Happy to see he is being accepted and is getting to play.

 

[Mofra]

Why would we chase an “emerging” Kp when we already have the YoungS and Gardner ?

I'm not sold on Gardner personally. Definitely not as a forward.

 

[AFDogs]

What have you blokes made of Sam Lloyd?

General consensus from Dogs supporters is that we're loving him and Duryeah.

Both have improved our side immensely and cost us peanuts.

 

[Virgin Dog]

Yeah it's for the best sometimes. Nank, Caddy and Prestia spring to mind for the Tiges. Won a flag their first year.

Lloydy was one of my favourite players. Happy to see he is being accepted and is getting to play.

Tigers seem to have done well at the trade table in the last few years. Have really made the right moves with bringing the right types in and moving out certain others for further opportunity without harming the club's future.

I'd say Lloyd will have a spot in our side for at least another couple of years. The huge surge in form from Bailey Dale might make things a little shakier for him in future since the spots up forward are a little tighter, but we really don't have that much forward depth to begin with, so I doubt he loses his spot anytime soon. He'd be looking at retirement before being overtaken I reckon. Hopefully we can see another premiership in the meantime

 

[Virgin Dog]

I'm not sold on Gardner personally. Definitely not as a forward.

100% not going to be a forward surely. I think the only reason we played him there was because Schache was out, so it would otherwise have just been Naughton up forward.

He's shown a hell of a lot more at VFL level as a KPD than as a KPF, and Bevo indicated recently that his future in the VFL is likely to be playing down back, which tells me he'll be given another year to prove himself as a KPD

 

[Mofra]

100% not going to be a forward surely. I think the only reason we played him there was because Schache was out, so it would otherwise have just been Naughton up forward.

He's shown a hell of a lot more at VFL level as a KPD than as a KPF, and Bevo indicated recently that his future in the VFL is likely to be playing down back, which tells me he'll be given another year to prove himself as a KPD

Fair enough. Good luck to the kid but I remain sceptical.

With the Keath to St Kilda rumours, I'm not sure there is any decent 'gettable' KPD left given how hard Port shut the door on our queries about Dougal Howard.
In that context I can understand Zac Smith as ruck cover, meaning Trengove trains as a KPD this pre-season. He 'had the pads on' all of last pre-season.

Ben Kelly as a late draft pick perhaps? Quick KPD who has run in the ruck, Bevo would love him.

 

[Dogsman16]

100% not going to be a forward surely. I think the only reason we played him there was because Schache was out, so it would otherwise have just been Naughton up forward.

He's shown a hell of a lot more at VFL level as a KPD than as a KPF, and Bevo indicated recently that his future in the VFL is likely to be playing down back, which tells me he'll be given another year to prove himself as a KPD

Happy to give him another year too. Believe he should be developed as the lockdown KPD. He might have Naughton and Potentially Bruce to train against this off season so he will learn quickly.

Levi Casboult and Josh Walker wouldn’t be bad options either. Casboult looked pretty good down there. Walker also has a really good trio of KPDs in front of him.

 

[VitalDread]

What have you blokes made of Sam Lloyd?

He's alright

 

[AuntyBlindEye]

He's alright

Is there anyone on this board that really doesn't rate him or think he is best 22 or even hates him?

Yours has been the least impressed sounding and it's still a positive reply.

 

[VitalDread]

I have seen enough of Gardner this year as a key defender to be fine if we miss out on Keath.
He's a good lock down defender with his closing speed and leap
Just needs more time and being a rookie, he's a good back up option without spending the bank

 

[Virgin Dog]

Is there anyone on this board that really doesn't rate him or think he is best 22 or even hates him?

Yours has been the least impressed sounding and it's still a positive reply.

If there was, they'd be hesitant to share such a stupid opinion. Seems that the consensus is he's one of our best forwards. Can be frustrating at times with some silly misses, but that's only because we see him as such a reliable player in the first place, so it hurts more to see him stuff up than any of the other forwards. Anyone who doesn't think he's best 22 is objectively wrong, and I have no doubts everyone would pile in and tell anyone that who doubts it

 

[AuntyBlindEye]

If there was, they'd be hesitant to share such a stupid opinion. Seems that the consensus is he's one of our best forwards. Can be frustrating at times with some silly misses, but that's only because we see him as such a reliable player in the first place, so it hurts more to see him stuff up than any of the other forwards. Anyone who doesn't think he's best 22 is objectively wrong, and I have no doubts everyone would pile in and tell anyone that who doubts it

You doggies are alright. Probably the supporter base I hear the least from.

You guys are good to Lloyd so you're good in my books.

 

[Johnny_Dogg4]

Is there anyone on this board that really doesn't rate him or think he is best 22 or even hates him?

Yours has been the least impressed sounding and it's still a positive reply.

He has exceeded my expectations by far. He has football smarts. Lovely kicking. Gives it his all. Reliable

My uncle is a tigers fan and was very sad to see Lloyd gone and he said preseason Lloyd would kick 40 goals and be a valuable player. He was right

 

[AuntyBlindEye]

He has exceeded my expectations by far. He has football smarts. Lovely kicking. Gives it his all. Reliable

My uncle is a tigers fan and was very sad to see Lloyd gone and he said preseason Lloyd would kick 40 goals and be a valuable player. He was right

Your uncle knows what he's on about.

 

[ringa5]

I have seen enough of Gardner this year as a key defender to be fine if we miss out on Keath.
He's a good lock down defender with his closing speed and leap
Just needs more time and being a rookie, he's a good back up option without spending the bank

People are far too harsh on new players.
What a whirlwind tour the poor bloke was thrown into.
Like Hayes,
Like Schache
Like Richards
Like English
Like even Crozier even Suckling( myself being guilty. )
Write new players off at your peril..

 

[Northernsoul74]

No chance we are giving up a first for keath

You only ha

People are far too harsh on new players.
What a whirlwind tour the poor bloke was thrown into.
Like Hayes,
Like Schache
Like Richards
Like English
Like even Crozier even Suckling( myself being guilty. )
Write new players off at your peril..

Happy to give him a full pre season training as a defender as thats where we need depth.

 

[dogwatch]

People are far too harsh on new players.
What a whirlwind tour the poor bloke was thrown into.
Like Hayes,
Like Schache
Like Richards
Like English
Like even Crozier even Suckling( myself being guilty. )
Write new players off at your peril..

It's not the BF way. We're all such good judges of sporting flesh that we can call it after watching them for 15 minutes.

 

[Mattdougie]

Is there anyone on this board that really doesn't rate him or think he is best 22 or even hates him?

Yours has been the least impressed sounding and it's still a positive reply.

There were plenty that said it wasn’t a great pick up after trade week and he would struggle to be best 22.

In fact a lot of them were the same people that said Duryea wouldn’t be any good either.

Lol they won’t admit it now

 

[mattwa]

Love me a bit of LLllloooyyyddd at the footy. Blokes best skill is his inside 50 kicking some of his passes have been unreal. On track to lead our goal kicking as well. Great get and seems a great bloke too

 

[Virgin Dog]

There were plenty that said it wasn’t a great pick up after trade week and he would struggle to be best 22.

In fact a lot of them were the same people that said Duryea wouldn’t be any good either.

Lol they won’t admit it now

True, safe to say more than half believed Lloyd wouldn't be best 22, and probably the majority thought Duryea wouldn't. I'll admit I saw Lloyd as fringe but still in the 22, while I struggled to see a spot for Duryea (being just outside the 22), but happy to admit I underrated their potential impact and both are now among the first picked in a fully fit side.

As it stands now, I think it would be hard to find anyone who thinks either are outside the 22 though. I think AuntyBlindEye was more referring to how he's viewed right now, rather than how he was viewed when he came in.

 

[Dogs Rule]

There were plenty that said it wasn’t a great pick up after trade week and he would struggle to be best 22.

In fact a lot of them were the same people that said Duryea wouldn’t be any good either.

Lol they won’t admit it now

You said this back in October 2018...

“Lloyd is a better player than Smith Jong Honey Dickson and a couple others

But I agree with others this is far from exciting

Someone said Sam Power hadn’t made a mistake yet I bet people aren’t surprised I don’t think he has done a thing right yet.”


He’s not bad that Sam Power...

 

[Mattdougie]

I'm not sold on Gardner personally. Definitely not as a forward.

I’m happy to already say he won’t make it but if he is still on the list he would be in the category of “emering” along with the 2 Young’s so I’d see another one as superfluous

 

[Mattdougie]

You said this back in October 2018...

“Lloyd is a better player than Smith Jong Honey Dickson and a couple others

But I agree with others this is far from exciting

Someone said Sam Power hadn’t made a mistake yet I bet people aren’t surprised I don’t think he has done a thing right yet.”


He’s not bad that Sam Power...

Hahahahahahahah this is the first time I’ve responded to you in over a year, I took you off ignore but will remedy that now.

You do make me laugh, nice post taken out of an entire convo and hand picked sentences out of it



The fact you even bother to troll back 12 months and then wriggle posts to try and annoy me is hilarious

Keep punching little one

How about trying to contribute to the conversation instead of worrying about little old me ???