Strategy Trade and List management Thread Part 5 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

[_Mike_]

It hasn't worked because we have weak leaders.
And it will continue to happen until we have strong ones.

Bingo

Hunter is the symptom not the disease.
Cutting Hunter is akin to cutting Stringer,

I have a real issue with the way Toyd was managed by the club which, I believe, had a huge impact on his decision to quit the game. With a stronger club leadership structure he could have stuck around and ended up being a dominant forward/ruck. Missed opportunity there, IMO, looking back to how Stringer & Dahlhaus were not told to pull their heads in.

Ive thought there was a lot more to the Hunter situation than the previous drink driving charge, this club suffers from the old problems of lack of club leadership which saw it implode after the 54 flag. Same thing is happening again IMO, just in different ways.

 

[bobs head soup]

JJ hasn't been even half the player since he was moved out of the backline in 2017-18. If we could move Dale to a wing, and have a JJ resurgence off the half back to rebound, that would be a lethal combo. Some of my most memorable plays are JJ rebounds (2016 Prelim to the Bont goal, 2016 game vs St Kilda where he steals the ball and delivers to Stringer)

The problem with JJ was that he was so good he got a regular heavy tag and never found a way to shake it.

For that reason I'm not sure he'll ever be a regular back flanker again.

 

[Norm De Guerre]

Happy with that.

If JJ can get some continuity into his game he could easily be a 30 goal HFF.

I think the days of him playing on a HBF are past.

 

[_Mike_]

Lobb as a KPF/Ruck,

Though I saw on Twitter today that Freo are staying firm with Lobb

 

[TheBont]

Happy with that.

If JJ can get some continuity into his game he could easily be a 30 goal HFF.

I think the days of him playing on a HBF are past.

Are we watching the same jj? Wtf?

 

[Norm De Guerre]

Are we watching the same jj? Wtf?

Yes. The same JJ that was shifted out of his preferred position for very good reason.

 

[Smiley Boy]

JJ to replace Hunter on a wing?

 

[glenashley]

With regards to the Lade criticism, genuine question, as I don't know the answer, how many of our premiership 2016 coaching panel has gone on to achieve success with other clubs?

 

[ScragCity]

Love u JJ

 

[adogsfan5]

With regards to the Lade criticism, genuine question, as I don't know the answer, how many of our premiership 2016 coaching panel has gone on to achieve success with other clubs?

Lade is very highly rated

 

[Generation West]

The Hunter stuff in the media is all about him exploring options rather than the club forcing him out.
Have heard nothing from the club about wanting to move him on.
The circumstances are eerily similar to Stringer back in 2017 so I am open minded. I think Sammy P would have handled the Stringer trade much more in house and professional.

I have been told that the club has not talked to or discussed Tomlinson and he definitely did not do a medical with us.

Have also asked about Magden but yet to hear back.

 

[ScragCity]

Hey Google, play Magden highlights on YouTube!






Oh FMD...

 

[TiAn_]

Wishful thinking: It’d be huge for us if a couple of hard running and tidy kicking 190cm+ wingmen in Parker and Bedendo really came on next year. If they were able to fulfil their potential and push smaller, slower and less skilled players like Hunter, McComb, Scott and Roarke out of our midfield it would help balance our mix immensely.

 

[Lee]

Not sure if already put in here, Brendon Lade

Brendon Lade

Age

48

Ht

199cm

Wt

102kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.4

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

4.0

3star

HO

15.1

5star

No current season stats available

D

11.2

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.4

4star

HO

9.6

5star

reported to be new assistant coach

 

[yebach]

Yes. The same JJ that was shifted out of his preferred position for very good reason.

I could be wrong. But I reckon JJ kicked more goals as a back pocket than a forward pocket.

 

[Here we go dogs]

Wishful thinking: It’d be huge for us if a couple of hard running and tidy kicking 190cm+ wingmen in Parker and Bedendo really came on next year. If they were able to fulfil their potential and push smaller, slower and less skilled players like Hunter, McComb, Scott and Roarke out of our midfield it would help balance our mix immensely.

I really liked what I saw in Parker. Thought he looked like he had some serious wheels and had a real go.

Saying that, when your cut down by injury as a rookie and your without a contract it’s looking pretty grim for him to get a new deal.

 

[mattwa]

Not happy with that we can do better

 

[VitalDread]

One year away from a flag now

 

[Here we go dogs]

We've wasted drafts/trades over the last 5 years on a number of players that couldnt deliver or were not played to their strengths.

I agree we have had players not played to their strengths but that falls on the coaches rather than recruitment.

I really don’t think our drafting has been bad at all the last 5 years. We have very little draft picks and still found players that the club would be bullish on with late picks in Cleary, Bendendo and Garcia.

Potentially list turn over hasn’t been high enough, but covid hasn’t made it easy for recruiters to hit the draft with 5 + picks.

 

[Sentinel]

I’m still holding out hope that someone overpays for Hunter and we get an extra 2nd rounder, like that we’ve learnt our lesson and seem to be playing it much better than we did with Jake

Suspect we're far more likely to accept significant unders for him just to get a part of his salary off the books.

 

[4Seasons]

Edmund 100% reads this forum

To be fair to Edmund, he does say he is sometimes passing on rumours from emails and tweets. Some of those people probably post on BF.

Good on him really. Some people are full on into this, too the point they fantasise they are actually list managers. He’s giving sections of the public their 15 seconds of fame.

Best trade thread though is the Luke Jackson one. People on there really really do think they are list managers. That page is a big wow.

 

[Dogs Rule]

Hey Google, play Magden highlights on YouTube!






Oh FMD...

Every time I read Magden my head just says Madge-en, as in Madge from Neighbours.

 

[ScragCity]

The only way we get decent value for Hunter is if he goes to the Saints.

 

[Philthy1]

The only way we get decent value for Hunter is if he goes to the Saints.

Trade him to Brisbane as a FU to Dunkley

 

[BrisDog]

Trade him to Brisbane as an FU to Dunkley

Pretty sure Dunkley wouldn’t give a f**k, in fact I think he would like it as long as people look at his brain-rot social media. He is a intellectually challenged show pony who cannot kick straight.