Strategy Trade and List management Thread Part 5 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

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Either Brisbane has really underestimated Power and the club, or they are simply amateur at trading. Perhaps when they flung their net at Dunkley they didn’t really expect to get him.
 
Josh Dunkley’s move to the Brisbane Lions is on life support less than a week out from the end of the trade period.

It can be revealed the Western Bulldogs are prepared to let Dunkley go through to the pre-season draft, such is their frustration over a lack of progress with the Lions on a suitable deal.




There had been discussions around Brisbane offering pick 15 and a future first round pick. The Lions will finish at the pointy end next year too mind you. The Bulldogs weren’t thrilled with that.

But the Dogs are aware the Lions don’t have access to more than that and what you’ve got is what you’ve got. It’s not ideal for the Dogs, but let’s move on.

The Lions also wanted the Dogs’ two second-round picks back (30 and 39). It came with a massive cost back the other way. Plus a future third.

The Dogs were staggered. The Lions said if you don’t take it we will trade 15 out.














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The Dogs point to Tim Taranto as the example. Taranto was traded to Richmond for 12 and 19. They think Dunkley is worth at least that, worth even slightly more given what he’s achieved to date.

But the Lions said no. They need the points to be able to select Will Ashcroft and Jaspa Fletcher in the draft.

The Lions are in a delicate position and opted to trade out pick 15.

And we are back to square one here on this and some frustration is attached.

Two first-round picks, even reasonably late, gets it done for the Dogs. Depending on how close the Lions can claw 21 back to 15, but the Dogs aren’t going to give anything back.

The Lions said, ‘We’re giving you what you want’, and the Dogs are obviously saying, ‘No you’re not’.

The Lions might try and nudge 21 up a bit, but the Dogs feel they’re being taken for a ride. And Brisbane think they will fold.

The Dogs last night sat down and are now committed to getting nothing in return if it gets to that. Dunkley would go into the open market.

“It’s very real” – a Dogs source said.

That stance is part principle and part anger of the fact Brisbane haven’t come close to being reasonable with this in their mind.

If he slides through he’ll be open to the market, but the Dogs haven’t given up hope of taking him back. They’re more than happy to call his name out if he wants to come back.

There are a few days to go and some water to go under the bridge, but the Lions wanting their cake and to eat it too has made this trade enormously difficult.

The Dogs are irritated that the Lions knew all year these kids were coming through and they haven’t adequately prepared for that and yet have committed to Dunkley.

The Dogs are happy to make hay with what the Lions have – or had – in terms of first-rounders, but the massive caveat of wanting second-rounders back has this deal up on blocks right now.

Albeit, there remains time for the two parties to sort out the deal.
 
Dunkley really has made a couple of poor choices for his preferred destination. Both times also affected by number one draft preference picks needing points.

A mess.
 
Proud that sam power isn’t taking any shit so how badly does Brisbane want Dunkley time to pay up
 

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dergert said:
I rate him highly but I'd think it's unlikely unfortunately.
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most brisbane supporters do as well but you dont really know how someone will adjust to moving interstate until they do. without knowing anything internal at the club id imagine we would have wanted him to extend with the other 2 draftees but for whatever reason he hasnt

id imagine footscray would be pretty appealing from a playing pov for lohmann as well. small forwards is the one position we have a logjam to accomodate (zorko probably plays as a small forward as well next year....) and he wouldnt be a walk up start. id imagine hed be best 22 for you guys if traded over a mid currently filling the role (McComb?) and the idea of crumbing at the feet of naughton / juh / darcy for a decade alongside weightman would be pretty tantalising

i think it is unlikely too, but is a player that you could at least get in the ear of
 
The problem is if we take massive unders this year, we're in a really weak position in future years at trade time.
Brisbane may be getting too cute by half, or this is posturing and Brisbane will need to get to work to turn 21 back into a first rounder
 
rye said:
most brisbane supporters do as well but you dont really know how someone will adjust to moving interstate until they do. without knowing anything internal at the club id imagine we would have wanted him to extend with the other 2 draftees but for whatever reason he hasnt

id imagine footscray would be pretty appealing from a playing pov for lohmann as well. small forwards is the one position we have a logjam to accomodate (zorko probably plays as a small forward as well next year....) and he wouldnt be a walk up start. id imagine hed be best 22 for you guys if traded over a mid currently filling the role (McComb?) and the idea of crumbing at the feet of naughton / juh / darcy for a decade alongside weightman would be pretty tantalising

i think it is unlikely too, but is a player that you could at least get in the ear of
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And our small forward stocks don't have Lohmann's pace. Weightman isn't slow but Lohmann is quicker.
 
intriguing.

a lot now depends on how the agent feels. that's what could trigger the "I won't play for you next year" media release. I remember Stringer's management dogged us with that.

let's hope the agent is more frustrated with Brisbane than he is with the Dogs
 
Mofra said:
The problem is if we take massive unders this year, we're in a really weak position in future years at trade time.
Brisbane may be getting too cute by half, or this is posturing and Brisbane will need to get to work to turn 21 back into a first rounder
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This is true. If we follow through, clubs will certainly think twice about approaching our players in the future unless they know they can certainly provide fair value.
 
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