Strategy Trade and List management Thread Part 6 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

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We are talking about having ten pre seasons under his belt.
And countless injuries that have sidelined him for long periods. He has shown he can play in patches and to think that not only current coach and list managers but previous ones who persevered with him know less than us is absurd.
Roarke sadly just hasn’t been able to string 2 full years together at any stage. I’m not saying keep him but the guy does have some talent.
 

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The way the vultures are circling our talls really highlights how imperative it is to get all the boxes ticked for 2024.. Especially coaching and fitness wise! (Neither of which at this stage appear to be gaining any traction?)
This is a “window” year opportunity and must be treated as such before the Swans, Pies, (or anyone the AFL desires?) pillages some of our toys out the cot!
What makes you think we are making no headway? I would much rather we do things right than half arsed rushing things to meet the MSM and supporter timelines.
Our toys are in safe hands just ask Naughton
 
The positive is that Power has cut pretty much everyone that most wanted moved on. Roarke, Bedendo & McNeil seem to be the only ones left without contracts. Bedendo will be retained and probably one of the others on a one year deal.
I don’t know what the story is with Bedendo but I would keep McNeil there are worse players than him and he is still young
 
Sadly, methinks next season will be our last blessed with guns Naughton and JMH, and to a lesser extent, Lobb, Darcy and Croft playing in the same team…
Sydney’s very cornerstone, in a predominantly non AFL environment, is to have a multi million dollar poster boy as their long-term main attraction.. A Lockett, Hall, Franklin..
The Swans AND THE AFL will throw the kitchen sink at one of ours to ensure they get their wish.. AND it’ll be totally beyond us to match what they’ll offer!
As someone earlier stated…
The league and the general fanbase don’t like us “battlers” to have too many nice things!
Sadly that is a depressing take and is not right. They will try and fail.
Keep the faith!
 
What position does he genuinely play? Hasn't shown s**t in his ten seasons at the club. Disgusting he is still on the list at this point, there is no upside to his game, has struggled at VFL level and gifted games when others were not afforded the same leniency for lack of impact.
Relax champ he is likely to be delisted. Btw he could play multiple positions and unlike many others was disciplined not a kick stat chaser. Injurit’s have let him down but we definitely need more players who can sacrifice their own games for the teams greater good
 
If the strong rumours are correct about Sydney's up to 1.5 mill per year for 10 years for JUH, we will struggle to keep him. It's an offer no player could conceivably reject. The question for us is will we have the capital to match it.
No player other than Naughton.

it’s not happening
 
Out of interest, I rewinded eleven years this morning and went to the Big Footy archives to read our thread leading up to the 2012 draft - the draft in which we took Stringer and Jack Macrae at picks 5 and 6.

Wow...all of the love was for Jono O'Rourke (who many agreed would be ideal for us, and would even end up the player of the draft), Jimmy Toumpas and Troy Menzel. There was barely a mention of Macrae, and when there was, it was pretty sceptical. At least in the few pages that I read. I don't know about the other 700 pages!

Perspective, heh. It was a good panacea against being seduced by three minute highlights videos and two sentence write-ups. And it just reinforced how our recruiting team have actually smashed our first round draft picks out of the park for about a decade.
Great post
And can I add that Sam Power is absolutely meticulous in his planning. He knows our cap what it is now and what it is 10 years from now and what we need to do.
Some of the absolutely clueless MSM commentary of the Naughty situation was as though he just woke up that morning and cooked up the deal.
The fact that no media or anyone for that matter knew anything about it until a few hours before it was announced just shows how good Sam is.
 

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It’s a 37% increase by 2027 which is just the fourth year of any prospective contract. He won’t be signing with us for $1.5 million but it would be naive to think that there wouldn’t be offers that have that number or above during particular years during the life of the deal.
Also naive to think that means he will leave
 
Because he was given opportunities in front of players that had genuine ability, players that have been let go to other clubs for nothing or delisted and have gone on to show they have value, Roarke has none. Afl is not a charity game where spots are reserved for players that are likeable. Should have been delisted 5+ years ago. Accepting mediocrity.
That’s rhetorical bullshit. Smith has always been minimum payments player which every list needs otherwise you lose your stars to big offers elsewher.e.
 
We didn’t win a flag with him getting his arse kicked in the third quarter. Drops his head too much for my liking.

Yep, that's the missing piece. English right now comes across as too meek and mild and if he develops a harder more physical edge, we'll improve out of sight.

Scott Wynd - that's what he needs to be. Wynd was physical (even though he didn't look it) and would just dominate and lost count of times he would drop back into the hole at CHB. He had presence and that's what we need from English now. He has plenty of skill, that's obvious, just got to get more mongrel about him. Start chewing wasps.
 
That’s rhetorical bullshit. Smith has always been minimum payments player which every list needs otherwise you lose your stars to big offers elsewher.e.
Totally agree. To win premierships you need role players on small contracts. I think the other side to this argument that’s fair however is that you should only be given 2-3 seasons max to prove yourself as a cheap role player otherwise rinse and repeat until we find the next Liam Picken etc. Anthony Scott has proven his value Roarke really hasn’t.
 
Totally agree. To win premierships you need role players on small contracts. I think the other side to this argument that’s fair however is that you should only be given 2-3 seasons max to prove yourself as a cheap role player otherwise rinse and repeat until we find the next Liam Picken etc. Anthony Scott has proven his value Roarke really hasn’t.
Roarke hasn’t always been available, but his played well in big games/finals. To me that proves his value.
 
Incorrect. Martin matched Gawn for 2+ quarters. Jackson went into the ruck smashed both English and Martin.
Martin and English matched Gawn you mean. It was Martin who was in the ruck when they kicked 3 centre clearance goals in a row to get them going. People can't say it was English getting pantsed when he only spent about 30% of game time in the ruck and wasn't playing there when the game really swung
 
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Martin and English matched Gawn you mean. It was Martin who was in the ruck when they kicked 3 centre clearance goals in a row to get them going. People can't say it was English getting pantsed when he only spent about 30% of game time in the ruck and wasn't playing there when the game really swung

We are argue that one but one thing for sure in 3 other elimination finals English was pantsed each time.
 
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