Strategy Trade and List management Thread Part 6 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

[Freshwater]

Wait until the Saints get more for Josh Battle than we get for Bailey Smith

Not possible because Bailey is not a free agent. If Geelong, Collingwood or Hawthorn want him they’ll have to trade. Or he’ll go to the draft, and there is a snow flakes chance in hell he’ll want to go to Richmond or North.

 

[Freshwater]

I spoke with Josh Battle

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Josh Battle

Age

26

Ht

193cm

Wt

93kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.9

3star

K

9.0

3star

HB

3.9

3star

M

5.0

5star

T

2.4

4star

MG

196.8

3star

D

11.0

3star

K

7.3

3star

HB

3.8

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.8

3star

MG

142.8

3star

D

10.8

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

4.6

4star

M

3.4

4star

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2.0

4star

MG

175.6

3star

’s dad in round 1 Cats v Saints at GMHBA Stadium. He was wearing Saints merchandise but told me he was a 39 year Hawthorn member and went to every Grand Final they were in. Josh grew up a mad Hawk, he was always going there.

 

[Doggies7]

Not possible because Bailey is not a free agent. If Geelong, Collingwood or Hawthorn want him they’ll have to trade. Or he’ll go to the draft, and there is a snow flakes chance in hell he’ll want to go to Richmond or North.

Huh? It's very possible we will get less for losing Bailey than the Saints do for losing Battle.

Battle will likely be band 1 comp so pick 6/7 whatever it is around there for the Saints.

Bailey will likely nominate Geelong and after posturing we will accept their first (pick 15-18 ish) plus a sweetener like a F2 or something. We'll absolutely talk tough and drag it out, but he won't be going into the PSD and will make his way to the club he nominates for less than he is worth.

 

[ossie_21]

Near the top of the Dillon/Kane agenda needs to be fixing the compo issue, not wildcard round or some other shitty initiative to let them continue making the game worse.

I don’t really want to live in a world where Ben McKay

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Ben Mckay

Age

26

Ht

202cm

Wt

104kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.5

2star

K

3.7

1star

HB

3.8

3star

M

2.7

3star

T

1.7

4star

MG

77.2

1star

D

7.5

2star

K

4.5

2star

HB

3.0

2star

M

2.5

3star

T

1.5

2star

MG

88.5

2star

D

7.0

2star

K

3.4

2star

HB

3.6

3star

M

2.4

3star

T

2.0

4star

MG

67.8

1star

& Josh Battle

26

Josh Battle

Age

26

Ht

193cm

Wt

93kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.9

3star

K

9.0

3star

HB

3.9

3star

M

5.0

5star

T

2.4

4star

MG

196.8

3star

D

11.0

3star

K

7.3

3star

HB

3.8

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.8

3star

MG

142.8

3star

D

10.8

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

4.6

4star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.0

4star

MG

175.6

3star

are worth the “compensation” of a high top 10 draft pick.

 

[RWnBluey]

Near the top of the Dillon/Kane agenda needs to be fixing the compo issue, not wildcard round or some other shitty initiative to let them continue making the game worse.

I don’t really want to live in a world where Ben McKay & Josh Battle are worth the “compensation” of a high top 10 draft pick.

The most ridiculous aspect of free agency is the compo given basically penalises everyone except those involved in the trade. One team gets the player, the other a compo pick, whilst the rest slide back an extra position in the draft. It’s a deeply flawed system

 

[CDBulldog]

Why? We got Alex Keath and Josh Bruce exactly when we needed them. I imagine there's a lot of other enquiries that happen that we never hear about, for all clubs.

I like Barrass, not entirely sure on Battle, I would've loved Barrass to pick us but it's not the end of the world.

Barrass would have been nice but for 5 yrs - madness

 

[CDBulldog]

Apart from Lewis they have been quite healthy this year.

How about you wait to see how they go with some injuries and after the competition has had a pre season to work on their game plan because you know it will happen. If they navigate that successfully then of course they're the real deal.

Simply saying they're young and have added Battle and Barrass (who still might not be traded because he's contracted) doesn't necessarily equate to anything. The dogs were young in 2017 coming off a premiership. They missed the finals the next year.

Remember the baby Bombers. Were meant to dominate for years….how many days again since they’ve won a final - delicious!!!

 

[Doggy Dan]

Huh? It's very possible we will get less for losing Bailey than the Saints do for losing Battle.

Battle will likely be band 1 comp so pick 6/7 whatever it is around there for the Saints.

Bailey will likely nominate Geelong and after posturing we will accept their first (pick 15-18 ish) plus a sweetener like a F2 or something. We'll absolutely talk tough and drag it out, but he won't be going into the PSD and will make his way to the club he nominates for less than he is worth.

I would push for this years and next years firsts, swapping back our 3rd this year and 2nd next year.

If we get a sh*t offer, we should let him walk to the PSD and laugh at him. Richmond are going to have cash to burn, they would take him in a heartbeat. I’d rather he walk than get screwed by Geelong who is a legitimate competitor we will directly be making better.

 

[oneoffpost]

Whether it’s $800k or $900K or whatever the figure ends up being congrats to Battle and his manager. I’ll never begrudge anyone for getting paid but if he’s worth that thank God Darcy is a 3rd generation Bulldog cos honestly he’d be worth double

 

[Angak]

Bevo and Chris Scott

Chris Scott

Age

48

Ht

182cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.6

4star

K

11.2

4star

HB

5.4

4star

M

5.1

5star

T

1.6

4star

G

0.4

3star

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D

13.2

4star

K

10.2

4star

HB

3.0

3star

M

2.2

3star

T

2.8

5star

G

0.4

3star

sitting next to each other at the awards night. What are the chances they discuss the trade package for Baz?

 

[Doggies7]

I would push for this years and next years firsts, swapping back our 3rd this year and 2nd next year.

If we get a sh*t offer, we should let him walk to the PSD and laugh at him. Richmond are going to have cash to burn, they would take him in a heartbeat. I’d rather he walk than get screwed by Geelong who is a legitimate competitor we will directly be making better.

I get that and obviously would love to get two 1sts for Bailey. I imagine that's where Power will start, but deep down he knows he's not getting that. The send out of contract player to the PSD because you aren't getting full trade value just doesn't happen and like with Dunkley, isn't going to happen here either.

If we can turn Bailey who is out the door into a Travaglia or Bo Allen etc who could become an A grader down the line for us plus another pick to play with next year, I think we'll take it and move on. I would much rather have one of these blue chip 1st rounders from the draft this year than nothing.

 

[mattwa]

Bevo and Chris Scott sitting next to each other at the awards night. What are the chances they discuss the trade package for Baz?

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[JTCWBFC]

The look on Bevos face while butters spoke about the dogs at AA awards

Almost shed a tear and said ‘just get him here’ I think

 

[Struggle]

Butters just declared his love for Bont in his AA interview

 

[Libbaaaa]

The look on Bevos face while butters spoke about the dogs at AA awards

Almost shed a tear and said ‘just get him here’ I think

YOU ****ING BEAUTY.

 

[Doggy Dan]

Imagine taking Bailey Smith

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Bailey Smith

Age

23

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

8.5

3star

HB

9.8

5star

M

2.3

2star

T

3.8

5star

CL

2.7

4star

D

19.8

5star

K

9.6

4star

HB

10.2

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.2

4star

CL

3.2

4star

D

14.8

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

7.2

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.4

5star

CL

1.6

4star

, a Hawks supporting pretty-boy ahead of a passionate, gun Doggy supporter, who adored the Bont and Libba. Massive error.

 

[Libbaaaa]

Imagine taking Bailey Smith, a Hawks supporting pretty-boy ahead of a passionate, gun Doggy supporter, who adored the Bont and Libba. Massive error.

11 teams passed on Butters.

 

[doggiesin08]

I love the man but imagine taking a shot every time Treloar says “as I said”

 

[RWnBluey]

Imagine taking Bailey Smith, a Hawks supporting pretty-boy ahead of a passionate, gun Doggy supporter, who adored the Bont and Libba. Massive error.

Let’s hope Bont gets in his ear tonight

 

[weltschmerz]

Imagine taking Bailey Smith, a Hawks supporting pretty-boy ahead of a passionate, gun Doggy supporter, who adored the Bont and Libba. Massive error.

Taking a well-rounded, well-performed, dedicated midfielder made much more sense than taking a talented but flakey small forward six years ago.

 

[glenashley]

Taking a well-rounded, well-performed, dedicated midfielder made much more sense than taking a talented but flakey small forward six years ago.

Fair point. I don't recall Butters name featuring that draft?

I know we were rapt Smith fell to our pick.

What was the drum on Butters at the time?

PS. Just get him here!

 

[Doggy]

Fair point. I don't recall Butters name featuring that draft?

I know we were rapt Smith fell to our pick.

What was the drum on Butters at the time?

PS. Just get him here!

Maybe he was too soft

 

[Munnez]

Can’t believe saints are going to get a top 10 pick for Josh Battle…

Wild.


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And you just know they will pick another Billings out of it!

 

[weltschmerz]

Fair point. I don't recall Butters name featuring that draft?

I know we were rapt Smith fell to our pick.

What was the drum on Butters at the time?

PS. Just get him here!

Small without great endurance, and injured partway through his draft year so couldn’t storm home and really show what he could do. His draft profile reads like a high risk high reward, x-factor kind of player, and you’ve gotta be really brave to pick that over someone like Smith who was incredibly consistent at a very high level.

 

[Here we go dogs]

Did we try to trade a future pick to get access to Butters at the time?