Strategy Trade and List management Thread Part 6 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

[doggies ftw]

Awesome, let’s get pick 4 & pray for McKercher but would minimum be Duursma or Watson who are great fits for our list.

If there is any merit to the Xavier Duursma

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Xavier Duursma

Age

24

Ht

186cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.5

5star

K

10.0

4star

HB

8.5

5star

M

5.4

5star

T

2.1

4star

CL

1.6

4star

D

13.0

3star

K

8.8

4star

HB

4.3

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.3

3star

CL

0.5

3star

D

16.8

4star

K

8.4

4star

HB

8.4

5star

M

4.8

5star

T

2.0

4star

CL

1.6

4star

chat, realistically what do we think he’d cost? How can we get both him & pick 4

 

[doggies ftw]

I'm not against the trade for 4 BUT wouldn't trading out two firsts for a single first then having to use a few second and third rounders to match Croft hit our depth levels again?

Is it any different to taking 10 and then using 17 to trade down to match Croft though? Realistically in either situation you’re getting 1 top end talent & Croft and then late picks, it might mean we have an extra pick in the 30s or 40s I guess but I’d probably rather the real top end pick over that.

Ideally we’d get two top picks in before Croft but doesn’t really look viable

 

[weltschmerz]

Is it any different to taking 10 and then using 17 to trade down to match Croft though? Realistically in either situation you’re getting 1 top end talent & Croft and then late picks, it might mean we have an extra pick in the 30s or 40s I guess but I’d probably rather the real top end pick over that.

Ideally we’d get two top picks in before Croft but doesn’t really look viable

Also the talent at pick 10 is definitely a tier down than the talent at pick 4.

 

[Dog 36]

Do we think we will target another ruck either a developing one or one a little more mature as back up should English leave or gets injured.

Don't like the thought of Darcy in the ruck

 

[adogsfan5]

I'm not against the trade for 4 BUT wouldn't trading out two firsts for a single first then having to use a few second and third rounders to match Croft hit our depth levels again?

Not a strong draft and if there is an outside mid or small fwd there at 4, I think we have to take it.

 

[iambrilliant]

Come on down wizard Watson

 

[goodcop badcop]

Awesome, let’s get pick 4 & pray for McKercher but would minimum be Duursma or Watson who are great fits for our list.

If there is any merit to the Xavier Duursma chat, realistically what do we think he’d cost? How can we get both him & pick 4

Port would probably want a 1st rounder for Duursma since he's in contract. Better to wait next year for him particularly if we draft his brother and he's out of contract then.

 

[dergert]

Is it any different to taking 10 and then using 17 to trade down to match Croft though? Realistically in either situation you’re getting 1 top end talent & Croft and then late picks, it might mean we have an extra pick in the 30s or 40s I guess but I’d probably rather the real top end pick over that.

Ideally we’d get two top picks in before Croft but doesn’t really look viable

I really want Lual. How do we get him with trading for pick 4 and spending a bundle on Croft? Trade back in?

 

[weltschmerz]

I really want Lual. How do we get him with trading for pick 4 and spending a bundle on Croft? Trade back in?

Yeah, would have to trade a future pick in after matching the Croft bid. It'll really just be Watson/Duursma/McKercher and Croft with this year's picks.

 

[goodcop badcop]

Is it any different to taking 10 and then using 17 to trade down to match Croft though? Realistically in either situation you’re getting 1 top end talent & Croft and then late picks, it might mean we have an extra pick in the 30s or 40s I guess but I’d probably rather the real top end pick over that.

Ideally we’d get two top picks in before Croft but doesn’t really look viable

You would be trading 17 for a future first/early second rather then matching it for points. So realistically you could take Wilson + Croft then trade the future pick back in for pick 20ish or leave the pick for next year.

 

[Golden_6]

I'm not against the trade for 4 BUT wouldn't trading out two firsts for a single first then having to use a few second and third rounders to match Croft hit our depth levels again?

If we get pick 4 we'll be able to bring in an elite kid early + Croft. There's a significant risk that #17 would be used for Croft if we held onto it anyway so we need to move it in a deal.

In terms of matching a Croft bid, I'm hopeful of receiving WCE 3rd rounder for Sweet (with later shuffling of picks). Along with ouR pick #36, that should be enough to match a Croft bid.

We then have #63, #66 & #71 which all should move up significantly due to bid matching and we take these picks to the draft. The club must bring in at least 5 draftees this season.

 

[dergert]

Yeah, would have to trade a future pick in after matching the Croft bid. It'll really just be Watson/Duursma/McKercher and Croft with this year's picks.

Reckon Curtin is a chance to slide to us?

 

[dergert]

If we get pick 4 we'll be able to bring in an elite kid early + Croft. There's a significant risk that #17 would be used for Croft if we held onto it anyway so we need to move it in a deal.

In terms of matching a Croft bid, I'm hopeful of receiving WCE 3rd rounder for Sweet (with later shuffling of picks). Along with ouR pick #36, that should be enough to match a Croft bid.

We then have #63, #66 & #71 which all should move up significantly due to bid matching and we take these picks to the draft. The club must bring in at least 5 draftees this season.

Yeah, I just really want Lual haha

 

[Philthy1]

Does anyone know the split of who is on our main list and who is on the rookie list?

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[bullish23]

I wouldn’t mind him if used solely as a defender but knowing how we develop players, he’ll switch between forward and defence every two weeks, stunting any progress

Throw in the odd quarter or three on a wing

 

[hutchy31]

I know we'll need to deal with someone to move up, and that's not necessarily that easy unless you want to pay over the odds, but I can't imagine we'd sit at 10 given at least a few of the teams in front of us could do with KPP depth and would be willing to make us pay.

If we don't end up with the GC pick it'll be an interesting evening, can't see who else would be amenable to a trade unless they're getting an amazing deal. I don't study this enough though, anyone think there are any other clubs picking before us who we think might be open to this?

 

[coxman]

Come on down wizard Watson

If we are targeting Watson, I wouldn’t think we need to look at Kai lohmann then

 

[goodcop badcop]

If we get pick 4 we'll be able to bring in an elite kid early + Croft. There's a significant risk that #17 would be used for Croft if we held onto it anyway so we need to move it in a deal.

In terms of matching a Croft bid, I'm hopeful of receiving WCE 3rd rounder for Sweet (with later shuffling of picks). Along with ouR pick #36, that should be enough to match a Croft bid.

We then have #63, #66 & #71 which all should move up significantly due to bid matching and we take these picks to the draft. The club must bring in at least 5 draftees this season.

Power on gettable said we'll have anywhere between 2 and 4 national draft picks.

 

[Munnez]

Reckon Curtin is a chance to slide to us?

Chances are WC or Norf take Curtin in the first few picks. Can't see him sliding any further than # 4.

 

[dergert]

Chances are WC or Norf take Curtin in the first few picks. Can't see him sliding any further than # 4.

I'll hit up the phantom drafts to see our options!

 

[weltschmerz]

I'll hit up the phantom drafts to see our options!

Top 6 will most likely be Reid, Walter, Curtin, Duursma, McKercher, and Watson, with the top 3 pretty much locked and some fiddling with the order of the rest of them. If w have pick 6 after the Walter match, we get whoever’s left. Do reckon it’s about a top 6-8 this year (Sanders and O’Sullivan right around that tier or just below it). Similar to 2018 where there was a top 8 (including Blakey) and we had pick 7, we were getting the one that was left.

 

[VitalDread]

Reckon Curtin is a chance to slide to us?

My mail is that Curtin is West Coast Number 1 target

 

[doggy_dog]

Koschitzke talk is interesting. Hawks drafted him as a defender and was on the verge of be delisted a couple of years ago before he was swung forward

 

[doggies ftw]

I really want Lual. How do we get him with trading for pick 4 and spending a bundle on Croft? Trade back in?

Yeah I do too, I think whether we get 4 or not though it’ll have to be a trade in for him - I’d be looking at bringing forward our future 2nd for him if we can find an option

 

[doggies ftw]

Port would probably want a 1st rounder for Duursma since he's in contract. Better to wait next year for him particularly if we draft his brother and he's out of contract then.

Yeah next year probably makes more sense, although maybe Port might be keen this year seeing as they have no picks and seem to have a few targets in mind so gonna have to lose someone you’d think. I don’t really think he’s worth a first to be honest, pick 17 5 years ago now and hasn’t really found his feet yet but yeah being under contract that’s probably what they’d ask for