Strategy Trade and List Management Thread Part 7 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

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[Dogs Rule]

I always love the framing of this as if it's the Dogs that are going to be difficult, that we have to concede, that we have to accomodate.

Geelong want him, they've done the sweet talking, it's on them to satisfy us, not the other way around.

 

[Struggle]

Why are they acting like 15 was even close to his value in the first place

 

[Libbaaaa]

Why are they acting like 15 was even close to his value in the first place

Because Smith woke up yesterday morning and out of the blue decided he wanted to go to Geelong! The Cats had no clue whatsoever and hadn't even heard of Smith before then.

 

[Libbaaaa]

Also the one thing Flog Barrett is good for this time of year is his relentless attack on free agency compo, he'll be hammering the AFL all off-season.

 

[Anja_Nees]

The AFL and AFLPA have always wanted to make the movement of players between clubs easier. The opacity of the FA compensation system is the perfect way to engineer such desired outcomes. Under this system everybody involved makes out like bandits.

It's all the other clubs that get pushed back in the draft or lose players before arriving at FA gravy train station that pay the price of a pineapple up the ol' jacksie. For the AFL and AFLPA largesse.

And we all laugh...

An arbitration panel for unrestricted free agents would have solved it, and make the acquiring club pay in draft pick points rather than bumping others down the order.

It’s utterly stupid as it is now.

 

[Dogs Rule]

Because Smith woke up yesterday morning and out of the blue decided he wanted to go to Geelong! The Cats had no clue whatsoever and hadn't even heard of Smith before then.

Also, the Dogs demands are clear here. It's on record. The deal could be done on Day 1 if Geelong really want it to be done. So the media have to ask the question - if Geelong want him so badly why aren't they just getting it done?

 

[BIG_BONTS]

In: Pick 20, a F1.
Out: Baz, F2

Seems pretty reasonable to me

 

[JohnnySteel]

I mentioned Will Hamill

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Will Hamill

Age

24

Ht

187cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.8

2star

K

4.4

2star

HB

4.4

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

1.4

3star

MG

135.2

2star

D

8.8

2star

K

4.4

2star

HB

4.4

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

1.4

2star

MG

135.2

2star

D

8.8

3star

K

4.4

2star

HB

4.4

4star

M

2.6

3star

T

1.4

4star

MG

135.2

3star

a few months ago. Just delisted by the Crows. Think he could be a good pick up.


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[ossie_21]

In: Pick 20, a F1.
Out: Baz, F2

Seems pretty reasonable to me

In: SDK, F1
Out: Baz, F2

 

[Doggy]

Surely we have to target SDK now.

 

[Dogsfan1]

Surely we have to target SDK now.

His not leaving

 

[Snarls Barkley]

I make the same post every season, so you're probably sick of it but you're going to have to read it so I can vent

Really sick of the free agency compensation being so high. Team getting the free agent wins, team losing the free agent wins, other 16 teams lose. Its just a broken system and its been a broken system since the Frawley deal a decade ago

I would go even further but so much of it would be fixed if band 1 compensation was just end of the first round. You still have restricted free agency where if teams aren't happy with the compo they can force it to a trade Jeremy Cameron

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Jeremy Cameron

Age

31

Ht

196cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.5

3star

K

9.0

3star

HB

3.4

3star

M

5.4

5star

T

1.6

4star

G

2.6

5star

D

10.0

3star

K

7.1

3star

HB

2.9

2star

M

4.6

4star

T

2.0

3star

G

1.9

5star

D

8.2

2star

K

5.0

2star

HB

3.2

3star

M

4.6

5star

T

2.4

4star

G

2.0

5star

style. If you're so incompetent that a gun player ends up being an unrestricted free agent, you shouldn't get bailed out by the AFL

I have no issue with Battle being band 1, he is a really good player and brings it every week. It hasn't been like a Ben McKay

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Ben Mckay

Age

27

Ht

202cm

Wt

104kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.5

2star

K

3.7

1star

HB

3.8

3star

M

2.7

3star

T

1.7

4star

MG

77.2

1star

D

7.5

2star

K

4.5

2star

HB

3.0

2star

M

2.5

3star

T

1.5

2star

MG

88.5

2star

D

7.0

2star

K

3.4

2star

HB

3.6

3star

M

2.4

3star

T

2.0

4star

MG

67.8

1star

situation where he checked out years before going out of contract and probably would've been traded before free agency if not for this system where North knew they would be rewarded for running their football club extremely poorly

 

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[Doggy]

His not leaving

Neither were plenty of others

 

[Snarls Barkley]

In: SDK, F1
Out: Baz, F2

I would imagine De Koning is worth more on the trade market than Smith is. Hope we target SDK, good player already / outstanding prospect but if its either of us adding something to the deal, its probably us

I can't imagine them allowing De Koning to leave

 

[Doggy]

I would imagine De Koning is worth more on the trade market than Smith is. Hope we target SDK, good player already / outstanding prospect but if its either of us adding something to the deal, its probably us

I can't imagine them allowing De Koning to leave

Then take him next year out of contract and screw Geelong for once

 

[Snarls Barkley]

Then take him next year out of contract and screw Geelong for once

Hope we stay in his ear if it can't happen this year

Think there will be many teams targeting him next year, probably a few who can offer more than us $$$ wise

 

[Doggy]

Hope we stay in his ear if it can't happen this year

Think there will be many teams targeting him next year, probably a few who can offer more than us $$$ wise

And brown paper bags...

 

[Snarls Barkley]

They've lost too many free agents that they probably thought they were decent chances of keeping. Can't imagine they'll trade anyone out who are in contract unless they get overs in a trade deal or that the player is going to cause a distraction. Can't imagine O'Halloran being that type of guy

Think we'd be silly to trade anything of note for him. I'm not against him for a late, nothing to lose type pick but GWS would be silly to accept that now

 

[Anja_Nees]

And brown paper bags...

A year-long supply of burrito kits.

 

[Libbaaaa]

I mentioned Will Hamill a few months ago. Just delisted by the Crows. Think he could be a good pick up.


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Would fulfil our need for speed

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[Thunderoad]

The AFL media love 'trade deals getting done' so if you are perceived to be holding a deal up, even if it's becuase the offer is rubbish, they will turn on you.

 

[SweatOnMySkin]

Hamill has had a lot of concussion issues. being free still might be worth a shot but it's a consideration

 

[dergert]

Reckon we switch off the radio and tv for the next two weeks. Nothing good will happen for the dogs this period