Strategy Trade and List Management Thread Part 7 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

[Bulldogs85]

TALKS COMMENCE ON MACRAE​

EARLY talks have begun between St Kilda and the Western Bulldogs as premiership midfielder Jack Macrae seeks a move to the Saints.

Macrae has three years to run on his contract with the Dogs but officially requested a trade to the Saints last month.

Discussions have commenced on what a deal would take to see Macrae get through to the Saints, with St Kilda football boss David Misson discussing the club's draft focus earlier this week.

The Bulldogs have indicated they would listen to offers on Macrae, who has played 249 games for the club, but that they were keen to retain him. – Callum Twomey.

GIANTS FEND OFF O'HALLORAN BID​

THE WESTERN Bulldogs have kicked around trade proposals with Greater Western Sydney over Xavier O'Halloran, but the Giants have so far remained staunch in their bid to keep the contracted midfielder.

O'Halloran has an interest in landing at the Dogs before next Wednesday night's trade deadline, where he has the appeal of a longer-term contract, but talks haven't progressed between the two clubs.
The Giants have been determined to retain their contracted talent, including O'Halloran, and have already rejected offers earlier in the week from the Demons for his teammate Wade Derksen who is also locked away until 2025.

GWS has already lost Harry Perryman(Collingwood) and Isaac Cumming(Adelaide) to free agency moves, while the uncontracted James Peatling (Adelaide) has also requested a trade.

But the Giants claimed a win when Conor Stone rejected interest from Essendon to sign through until 2026 earlier this week, while the club is expected to progress on its attempts to land Jake Stringer from the Bombers.

The Western Bulldogs only have picks No.35 and 48 to play with in this year's draft, but the club could land more in trades for Bailey Smith (Geelong), Jack Macrae (St Kilda) and potentially Caleb Daniel (North Melbourne). – Riley Beveridge

 

[The Inbetweener]

That article also says the the Dockers have offered 10,11 & 18 to the Tigers for Bolton and Baker. Thats a huge overpay.

 

[Bulldogs85]

That article also says the the Dockers have offered 10,11 & 18 to the Tigers for Bolton and Baker. Thats a huge overpay.

Fremantle going all in for a premiership

 

[DueWest]

We may not be a big club but we do actually bat above our weight and any supporters under 35, you have no understanding of following a genuinely poor club
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Great post and Particularly agree with that part

We have One of the best players in the comp, a 21 year old 208cm freak who will take the comp by storm plus a 22 yo gun who just kicked 43 goals in his 4th season, never been so promising

 

[Mr. Walker]

People knocking the AFL over the length and supposed tedium of trade period should stop and consider all the good the AFL has done to increase the love of the game in the community. The AFL takes growth of the game very seriously and the executives don’t award themselves annual performance bonus payments for nothing you know.
Let’s look at the recent grand final. The attendance was 100,013. We only got that many people there because the AFL “learned” us to love the game. You think it’s just in our DNA? Go back to 1970 or 1971 and see how many people actually bothered to turn up. That will set you straight.
What about regular season attendances I hear you ask. Good point. This year the AFL got 88,362 to go to Carlton Collingwood game. Go back to say 1958, again before the AFL came to be in 1990. How many attended that particular game? Probably two men and a dog. And I bet the dog was a male. It’s only through the efforts of the AFL that females are interested in sport nowadays don’t you know.
And what about overseas interest in our great game. Supposedly there was a game in the 1956 olympics ( demonstration sport only) and a game in an old town called London but where else. Which organisation gave us CHINA. How crucial was that in expanding interest in the game? I’ll prove it to you. In 1990 when the AFL was formed Australia’s population was 17.7 million today it is 26.7 million. That’s an extra 18 million eyeballs on the game! The love of our game drew millions here. The tv ratings achieved under the AFL massively swamp anything previous administrations achieved. All through the vision to play in China.
The AFL is the reason we love the game and only fools would question them.

 

[ScragCity]

That article also says the the Dockers have offered 10,11 & 18 to the Tigers for Bolton and Baker. Thats a huge overpay.

Nah its not. They're worth that for a club who could seriously compete next year.

 

[Libbaaaa]

Nah its not. They're worth that for a club who could seriously compete next year.

Baker doesn’t move the needle at all for mine but Bolton a genuine match winner in that Freo team.

 

[The City Boyz]

TALKS COMMENCE ON MACRAE​

EARLY talks have begun between St Kilda and the Western Bulldogs as premiership midfielder Jack Macrae seeks a move to the Saints.

Macrae has three years to run on his contract with the Dogs but officially requested a trade to the Saints last month.

Discussions have commenced on what a deal would take to see Macrae get through to the Saints, with St Kilda football boss David Misson discussing the club's draft focus earlier this week.

The Bulldogs have indicated they would listen to offers on Macrae, who has played 249 games for the club, but that they were keen to retain him. – Callum Twomey.

GIANTS FEND OFF O'HALLORAN BID​

THE WESTERN Bulldogs have kicked around trade proposals with Greater Western Sydney over Xavier O'Halloran, but the Giants have so far remained staunch in their bid to keep the contracted midfielder.

O'Halloran has an interest in landing at the Dogs before next Wednesday night's trade deadline, where he has the appeal of a longer-term contract, but talks haven't progressed between the two clubs.
The Giants have been determined to retain their contracted talent, including O'Halloran, and have already rejected offers earlier in the week from the Demons for his teammate Wade Derksen who is also locked away until 2025.

GWS has already lost Harry Perryman(Collingwood) and Isaac Cumming(Adelaide) to free agency moves, while the uncontracted James Peatling (Adelaide) has also requested a trade.

But the Giants claimed a win when Conor Stone rejected interest from Essendon to sign through until 2026 earlier this week, while the club is expected to progress on its attempts to land Jake Stringer from the Bombers.

The Western Bulldogs only have picks No.35 and 48 to play with in this year's draft, but the club could land more in trades for Bailey Smith (Geelong), Jack Macrae (St Kilda) and potentially Caleb Daniel (North Melbourne). – Riley Beveridge

Sounds like XOH might be a no go

 

[Lindsay_Gilbee]

Don’t care how good Watson is, I’m happy he’s not at the dogs. Don’t think I’ve seen such a shocking attitude. Bring a ****wit then lipping off to fans on instagram is such poor behaviour.

 

[Ash1337]

Sounds like XOH might be a no go

Only a no go if they cant get shiel & Stringer through.

 

[Doggy]

Don’t care how good Watson is, I’m happy he’s not at the dogs. Don’t think I’ve seen such a shocking attitude. Bring a ****wit then lipping off to fans on instagram is such poor behaviour.

Sounds like someone else we know

 

[lachy]

People knocking the AFL over the length and supposed tedium of trade period should stop and consider all the good the AFL has done to increase the love of the game in the community. The AFL takes growth of the game very seriously and the executives don’t award themselves annual performance bonus payments for nothing you know.
Let’s look at the recent grand final. The attendance was 100,013. We only got that many people there because the AFL “learned” us to love the game. You think it’s just in our DNA? Go back to 1970 or 1971 and see how many people actually bothered to turn up. That will set you straight.
What about regular season attendances I hear you ask. Good point. This year the AFL got 88,362 to go to Carlton Collingwood game. Go back to say 1958, again before the AFL came to be in 1990. How many attended that particular game? Probably two men and a dog. And I bet the dog was a male. It’s only through the efforts of the AFL that females are interested in sport nowadays don’t you know.
And what about overseas interest in our great game. Supposedly there was a game in the 1956 olympics ( demonstration sport only) and a game in an old town called London but where else. Which organisation gave us CHINA. How crucial was that in expanding interest in the game? I’ll prove it to you. In 1990 when the AFL was formed Australia’s population was 17.7 million today it is 26.7 million. That’s an extra 18 million eyeballs on the game! The love of our game drew millions here. The tv ratings achieved under the AFL massively swamp anything previous administrations achieved. All through the vision to play in China.
The AFL is the reason we love the game and only fools would question them.

Compared to other football codes in Australia the AFL is a clear leader. However, to remain this way it needs to pre empmt issues that may arise.

If the length of the trade period annoys too many it will become counter productive.

Round 0 was not a success, tread warily.

AFLW has become an abomination, do you want it to succeed.

These and many others are issues the AFL will always have to address and it is ok if people want to call them out for failures

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[Lindsay_Gilbee]

Sounds like someone else we know

For all of Smith’s faults atleast he isn’t bailing on a kids clinic the morning off… hawks supporters defending that are embarrassing. I’d be filthy as a parent.

 

[Testekill]

Sounds like XOH might be a no go

He's contracted and, with the Giants losing a fair few players this season, he was always going to cost more this year than he's probably worth.

 

[W W Biscuit]

People knocking the AFL over the length and supposed tedium of trade period should stop and consider all the good the AFL has done to increase the love of the game in the community. The AFL takes growth of the game very seriously and the executives don’t award themselves annual performance bonus payments for nothing you know.
Let’s look at the recent grand final. The attendance was 100,013. We only got that many people there because the AFL “learned” us to love the game. You think it’s just in our DNA? Go back to 1970 or 1971 and see how many people actually bothered to turn up. That will set you straight.
What about regular season attendances I hear you ask. Good point. This year the AFL got 88,362 to go to Carlton Collingwood game. Go back to say 1958, again before the AFL came to be in 1990. How many attended that particular game? Probably two men and a dog. And I bet the dog was a male. It’s only through the efforts of the AFL that females are interested in sport nowadays don’t you know.
And what about overseas interest in our great game. Supposedly there was a game in the 1956 olympics ( demonstration sport only) and a game in an old town called London but where else. Which organisation gave us CHINA. How crucial was that in expanding interest in the game? I’ll prove it to you. In 1990 when the AFL was formed Australia’s population was 17.7 million today it is 26.7 million. That’s an extra 18 million eyeballs on the game! The love of our game drew millions here. The tv ratings achieved under the AFL massively swamp anything previous administrations achieved. All through the vision to play in China.
The AFL is the reason we love the game and only fools would question them.

It looks as though you should have prefaced this post with a directive to calibrate our sarcasm detector.

 

[stefoid]

That article also says the the Dockers have offered 10,11 & 18 to the Tigers for Bolton and Baker. Thats a huge overpay.

Is it? Bolton is a gun and baker is very handy - both are plug and play. Wouldnt you be pretty pleased with a draft if 2 of those 3 picks eventually turned into players of that calibre?

 

[Dog 36]

Can someone tell me why we can’t put Smith through that?

What is it going to be such a big traumatic experience

what a crock of S**t

 

[adogsfan5]

Richmond’s picks are going to be at an expansion club level. 6-7 in the top 20. Insane.

 

[The Inbetweener]

Is it? Bolton is a gun and baker is very handy - both are plug and play. Wouldnt you be pretty pleased with a draft if 2 of those 3 picks eventually turned into players of that calibre?

Bolton is a gun. Baker is handy but 27. They are offering 10 & 18 for Bolton, so valuing Baker and 11 is over for me but others may see it differently.

 

[Doggies7]

Is anyone able to post or summarise what our supposed asking price is?

 

[adogsfan5]

Is anyone able to post or summarise what our supposed asking price is?

Can see the cats trading up and getting a slightly better pick.

 

[Mojorisin]

Is anyone able to post or summarise what our supposed asking price is?

Dogs want a top 10 pick. Cats only willing to give 17, confident they'll get him there in the draft if dogs don't accept.

 

[HK_Bulldog]

Don’t care how good Watson is, I’m happy he’s not at the dogs. Don’t think I’ve seen such a shocking attitude. Bring a ****wit then lipping off to fans on instagram is such poor behaviour.

It’s a small forward thing. Think about all the players that annoy you and most would be small forwards. Charlie Cameron, Ginnivan, Toby Greene. Other teams dislike Weightman.

 

[Bonty4]

People knocking the AFL over the length and supposed tedium of trade period should stop and consider all the good the AFL has done to increase the love of the game in the community. The AFL takes growth of the game very seriously and the executives don’t award themselves annual performance bonus payments for nothing you know.
Let’s look at the recent grand final. The attendance was 100,013. We only got that many people there because the AFL “learned” us to love the game. You think it’s just in our DNA? Go back to 1970 or 1971 and see how many people actually bothered to turn up. That will set you straight.
What about regular season attendances I hear you ask. Good point. This year the AFL got 88,362 to go to Carlton Collingwood game. Go back to say 1958, again before the AFL came to be in 1990. How many attended that particular game? Probably two men and a dog. And I bet the dog was a male. It’s only through the efforts of the AFL that females are interested in sport nowadays don’t you know.
And what about overseas interest in our great game. Supposedly there was a game in the 1956 olympics ( demonstration sport only) and a game in an old town called London but where else. Which organisation gave us CHINA. How crucial was that in expanding interest in the game? I’ll prove it to you. In 1990 when the AFL was formed Australia’s population was 17.7 million today it is 26.7 million. That’s an extra 18 million eyeballs on the game! The love of our game drew millions here. The tv ratings achieved under the AFL massively swamp anything previous administrations achieved. All through the vision to play in China.
The AFL is the reason we love the game and only fools would question them.

Tldr

 

[Bonty4]

Bolton is a gun. Baker is handy but 27. They are offering 10 & 18 for Bolton, so valuing Baker and 11 is over for me but others may see it differently.

Bolton is flakey as ****.