Strategy Trade and List Management Thread Part 7 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

[Dogs 13]

Really you must be a very happy supporter making up remours if sticking up for my football club is a shit attitude then you have no idea

So are players and the club above criticism.
Or is it hooray for everything and stick your fingers in your ears ?

 

[In Repair]

To be fair its quite disappointing news.

It's a familiar pattern with moving on those who aren't easy to deal with. The common denominator is the club who clearly need to learn how to deal with such players.

If potential suitors think we are turfing him out we might also get a shit deal which would be disastrous

Would have we gotten rid of Dusty in his early days I wonder

 

[Dogs 13]

As someone who trained at a boxing gym in the western suburbs I agree. 3 people I have trained with have ended up in prison

So they just haven’t caught up with you yet then

 

[Thunderoad]

Club just turfs out anyone who isn't a choir boy

They turfed out Stringer, Hunter and Dahlhaus and I don't think anyone has any regrets there.

They didn't turf out players like Liberatore, Biggs and others who weren't exactly quireboys

 

[Mojorisin]

No i know people are a 100 percent making it up thats what bigfooty users do

You're a big footy user now.

 

[Doggy]

They turfed out Stringer, Hunter and Dahlhaus and I don't think anyone has any regrets there.

They didn't turf out players like Liberatore, Biggs and others who weren't exactly quireboys

A 22 year old number 1 pick key forward who had a good year and is developing well other than needing to work on goal kicking should be a priority to keep.

It's really one that will bite us on the freckle

 

[cleveland]

I hope juh isn't traded and turns into a 250/300 game superstar for us. But I'd rather cash him in now than wait 2 years and get way less for him if we think he will leave

 

[Doggy]

Would have we gotten rid of Dusty in his early days I wonder

Absolutely.

 

[Norm De Guerre]

...Dekoning is a gun full back.

Thats why its absurd to consider him a fringe player, let alone tradable.

People need to get their head around the fact that when Smith nominates Geelong tomorrow.

That the final deal will be their first and a shuffling of later picks.

Not one that includes our choice of fringe players and certainly not SDK.

 

[Mojorisin]

Thats why its absurd to consider him a fringe player, let alone tradable.

People need to get their head around the fact that when Smith nominates Geelong tomorrow.

That the final deal will be their first and a shuffling of later picks.

Not one that includes our choice of fringe players and certainly not SDK.

Geelong fans were saying Macrae was a fringe player (played 3 VFL games) and taking him aswell would lower the trade cost for Smith. I assumed SDK's 2 VFL games made him a fringe player.

 

[Bald]

Club just turfs out anyone who isn't a choir boy

You serious lol? Nobody we've "turfed" we've missed, and those we have turfed we've had some pretty good reasons for doing so.

 

[Thunderoad]

A 22 year old number 1 pick key forward who had a good year and is developing well other than needing to work on goal kicking should be a priority to keep.

It's really one that will bite us on the freckle

Jamarra has a few things to work on other than just his goal kicking

His repeat efforts need plenty of work for one.

He also needs to lose the one handed mark stuff and the routine on feild strops with team mates.

He's a serious talent but there are question marks.

 

[Doggy]

You serious lol? Nobody we've "turfed" we've missed, and those we have turfed we've had some pretty good reasons for doing so.

Not really the same quality though is it? We're talking apples and oranges.

 

[In Repair]

My concerns are that he loses currency by actively shopping him around, especially if/when the media get a hold of this and it plays out openly (Stringer 2017).

Agree with others that it would be disappointing losing him. Does the club also consider future father sons in the pipeline when making this decision? The next Darcy etc???

 

[Mojorisin]

Not really the same quality though is it? We're talking apples and oranges.

I don't think Smiley was insinuating we'd deal him out for unders like we did with Stringer.
We re-signed him for 2 years not long ago, so obviously think we can snap him out of whatever he is going through.
If we were to trade him out though now he is contracted has us in a much stronger position.

I personally think no one should be out of bounds barring Bont and Darcy, it obviously needs to be the right deal though.

 

[Mojorisin]

My concerns are that he loses currency by actively shopping him around, especially if/when the media get a hold of this and it plays out openly (Stringer 2017).

Agree with others that it would be disappointing losing him. Does the club also consider future father sons in the pipeline when making this decision? The next Darcy etc???

Croft is already in the door and is seen now as a tall forward, he likely pushes for games next year after a big off season.

 

[MaxiBont]

A 22 year old number 1 pick key forward who had a good year and is developing well other than needing to work on goal kicking should be a priority to keep.

It's really one that will bite us on the freckle

If we trade JuH, I assume it would be because of a disappointing season and/or more proof that 3 tall KPF can’t work.

I feel like by the end of the next season JUH will either be untouchable or people won’t mind much if he goes.

 

[Doggy]

I don't think Smiley was insinuating we'd deal him out for unders like we did with Stringer.
We re-signed him for 2 years not long ago, so obviously think we can snap him out of whatever he is going through.
If we were to trade him out though now he is contracted has us in a much stronger position.

I personally think no one should be out of bounds barring Bont and Darcy, it obviously needs to be the right deal though.

The key was "shopping him around".

So the club is going to potential suitors. To me that's showing the hand early that they are happy to trade him for a certain price so other clubs will smell blood in the water

 

[Dog 36]

Thats why its absurd to consider him a fringe player, let alone tradable.

People need to get their head around the fact that when Smith nominates Geelong tomorrow.

That the final deal will be their first and a shuffling of later picks.

Not one that includes our choice of fringe players and certainly not SDK.

Have a feeling and hearing this trade may get ugly.

There was noise the AFL was going to look into any deal Smith would do and any third party deals. That is true but not full story. I think AFL has been put on notice that this deal may go south and maybe a player and call concerned won’t be happy with outcome and could be a PR nightmare for AFL

 

[goodcop badcop]

I'd be very surprised if Jamarra is traded, it would take something pretty great to move him on. I dare say the club is sending Jamarra a message, that he needs to lift his standards, to be careful who he hangs around with and that he's letting his teammates down.

 

[Bald]

Not really the same quality though is it? We're talking apples and oranges.

Except there aren't any oranges, as nothing has happened yet..

 

[Mojorisin]

The key was "shopping him around".

So the club is going to potential suitors. To me that's showing the hand early that they are happy to trade him for a certain price so other clubs will smell blood in the water

Key from there is for a certain price.

Have a feeling and hearing this trade may get ugly.

There was noise the AFL was going to look into any deal Smith would do and any third party deals. That is true but not full story. I think AFL has been put on notice that this deal may go south and maybe a player and call concerned won’t be happy with outcome and could be a PR nightmare for AFL

It will deffinetly be one of the last trades done and likely requires an arbitrator. Things are extremely far apart currently.

 

[Dog 36]

I don't think Smiley was insinuating we'd deal him out for unders like we did with Stringer.
We re-signed him for 2 years not long ago, so obviously think we can snap him out of whatever he is going through.
If we were to trade him out though now he is contracted has us in a much stronger position.

I personally think no one should be out of bounds barring Bont and Darcy, it obviously needs to be the right deal though.

Fine line and dangerous territory when other clubs know you want a player out the door.

We lost our position with Stringer the minute Bev wanted him out

 

[adogsfan5]

You serious lol? Nobody we've "turfed" we've missed, and those we have turfed we've had some pretty good reasons for doing so.

They’ve also left and stunk it up at their next club lol.

 

[Mojorisin]

Fine line and dangerous territory when other clubs know you want a player out the door.

We lost our position with Stringer the minute Bev wanted him out

It is a fine line I agree.