AFLW Trade, Draft and list changes

[Bojangles17]

Alyce Parker would be a good get to add to midfield depth, as the article that was mentioned earlier in this thread. She is a left footer that would add contrast to what we already have & a hard nut with good skills. Also the article mentions we are very interested in getting her in for next season. We just need to make it happen. The more skilled players we can add, the closer we get to the current top teams. We cant afford to sit on our hands & think it will magically happen without recruiting better players, which long term will make us a destination club. Also 23 years old.

We def need to cut a few as we drifted from a couple of sides that I thought we were above 12m ago in cats and ess , they’re now way ahead , without decisive action we will only drift further

 

[Bojangles17]

The likes of jem woods offer more than the hoskos, should be able to find a few more , an A grade talent is a must tho to partner mon con

 

[tigs2010]

Mon Con, Parker, E Mac midfield is pretty good. Egan as a 4th rather than 2nd option also solid.

 

[Bojangles17]

Mon Con, Parker, E Mac midfield is pretty good. Egan as a 4th rather than 2nd option also solid.

Would help us move forward , some serious list management req to avoid a spiral , and if the hoskos are to split then it tells me theyre taking it seriously as they’d be much loved from within , sh is vc

 

[Stan Judkins]

Would help us move forward , some serious list management req to avoid a spiral , and if the hoskos are to split then it tells me theyre taking it seriously as they’d be much loved from within , sh is vc

Gabby Seymour is vice-captain this year.
Sarah Hosking is in the leadership group.

also, the wording on the RFC site says, "Richmond confirms that AFLW forward Stephanie Williams and midfielder Jess Hosking will not return to the Club in 2024".
usually it's "will not be offered contracts in 2024".

so it infers that both players made their own decisions, rather than the club made it for them.

 

[Bojangles17]

Gabby Seymour is vice-captain this year.
Sarah Hosking is in the leadership group.

also, the wording on the RFC site says, "Richmond confirms that AFLW forward Stephanie Williams and midfielder Jess Hosking will not return to the Club in 2024".
usually it's "will not be offered contracts in 2024".

so it infers that both players made their own decisions, rather than the club made it for them.

May be retiring

 

[Bojangles17]

Would find a spot on a list I’d say , if jaques could Jess hosking def would

 

[Teen Wolf]

All clubs (excluding Sydney) have to consolidate their Additional Services Agreements to fit within the new prescribed limit by 2025. Previously unmetered deals for Conti and Brennan/McKenzie will soon be metered, creating a squeeze on the players (such as the Hoskings) whose deals have always counted toward the $100k ASA cap.

Richmond's list architect Ted Mosby wouldn't have needed long to identify the most expendable ASA soaker-upper. At that point, it becomes a question of: do you want to take a pay cut, or do you want to take your chances on the open market?

It is also these changes to the ASA rules which render the idea of fitting Alyce Parker onto the same list as Conti and McKenzie as... fanciful, at best. And yet these new rules could also be the catalyst for a contract standoff between Parker's manager (the rather bloodthirsty Alex Saundry--who also represents Brennan, McKenzie, the Hoskings and, until recently, Tayla Harris) and GWS.

 

[Phar Ace]

what (dare i say misogynistic) crap from ch7, how is it relevant for part of the story let alone the title. even attempting to link the slightest causation is so dumb. imagine going to uni for journalism just to be a headline writer

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Yep, Ch7 is crap

 

[Phar Ace]

Gabby Seymour is vice-captain this year.
Sarah Hosking is in the leadership group.

also, the wording on the RFC site says, "Richmond confirms that AFLW forward Stephanie Williams and midfielder Jess Hosking will not return to the Club in 2024".
usually it's "will not be offered contracts in 2024".

so it infers that both players made their own decisions, rather than the club made it for them.

True enough, but you do need to factor in exit interviews where there would have been candid discussions about what 2024 might look like - and that would not have looked great for those two, one significantly injured, the other has anxiety and mental health issues. Even if either got fit again, they'd have had it said they would be outside the 21 and looking in from a fair way back. It's just another way you don't have to offer a new contract.

Does anyone know what the alignment with Port looks like for 2024? Think the Club has to bite the bullet maybe and have greater control over the development of the players outside the best 21. Giving games and controlling development is where we are slipping away too.

 

[tora tora tora]

True enough, but you do need to factor in exit interviews where there would have been candid discussions about what 2024 might look like - and that would not have looked great for those two, one significantly injured, the other has anxiety and mental health issues. Even if either got fit again, they'd have had it said they would be outside the 21 and looking in from a fair way back. It's just another way you don't have to offer a new contract.

Does anyone know what the alignment with Port looks like for 2024? Think the Club has to bite the bullet maybe and have greater control over the development of the players outside the best 21. Giving games and controlling development is where we are slipping away too.

Port won the flag I think. So plenty going right. I don't recognise any RFC names for the granny.
Port Richmond?

 

[tora tora tora]

Anyone watching the Vflw? Pick up coaching style difference that Port used and our Aflw team don't.
Is the standard gap big,?

 

[tora tora tora]

Port won the flag I think. So plenty going right. I don't recognise any RFC names for the granny.
Port Richmond?

Caruso eh?

 

[Lord of the Wings]

Gabby Seymour is vice-captain this year.
Sarah Hosking is in the leadership group.

also, the wording on the RFC site says, "Richmond confirms that AFLW forward Stephanie Williams and midfielder Jess Hosking will not return to the Club in 2024".
usually it's "will not be offered contracts in 2024".

so it infers that both players made their own decisions, rather than the club made it for them.

Both moved on by the club.

 

[Lord of the Wings]

All clubs (excluding Sydney) have to consolidate their Additional Services Agreements to fit within the new prescribed limit by 2025. Previously unmetered deals for Conti and Brennan/McKenzie will soon be metered, creating a squeeze on the players (such as the Hoskings) whose deals have always counted toward the $100k ASA cap.

Richmond's list architect Ted Mosby wouldn't have needed long to identify the most expendable ASA soaker-upper. At that point, it becomes a question of: do you want to take a pay cut, or do you want to take your chances on the open market?

It is also these changes to the ASA rules which render the idea of fitting Alyce Parker onto the same list as Conti and McKenzie as... fanciful, at best. And yet these new rules could also be the catalyst for a contract standoff between Parker's manager (the rather bloodthirsty Alex Saundry--who also represents Brennan, McKenzie, the Hoskings and, until recently, Tayla Harris) and GWS.

We should trade McKenzie. Never gets on the park and would get us a top 3 draft pick.

 

[Phar Ace]

Anyone watching the Vflw? Pick up coaching style difference that Port used and our Aflw team don't.
Is the standard gap big,?

Big gap, huge gap. Skill base drops off significantly - would suggest the U18 comp is superior for the most part, definitely is at state level.

Port had no RFC players playing during any of the finals - which was a huge credit to the Port girls. That said, permission was sought for a couple to play but denied by VFLW/AFL.

Caruso should get picked up by someone. There was one other I'm just trying to remember, probably Bella Stutt who in the last quarter of the GF found some important lead up targets.

 

[Phar Ace]

We should trade McKenzie. Never gets on the park and would get us a top 3 draft pick.

Going right to the top with your knives this season coming I see......

 

[Teen Wolf]

We should trade McKenzie. Never gets on the park and would get us a top 3 draft pick.

The Bulldogs would trade pick 1 for her in a heartbeat.

Why would McKenzie agree to a trade though? It seems the only plausible reason she'd want out is if Richmond downgraded her from tier 1 to tier 2, but at that point she'd be able to sign as a free agent on a tier 1 contract at the Bulldogs.

Further, if Richmond was frustrated with McKenzie's reliability, why would they trade her for a 0-game teenager whose reliability is even more doubtful. Makes no sense to even consider trading her unless it's for a not-too-old proven 2IC a la Anne Hatchard--again, Adelaide would definitely do that trade, banking on being the winner in the long run.

 

[Bojangles17]

All clubs (excluding Sydney) have to consolidate their Additional Services Agreements to fit within the new prescribed limit by 2025. Previously unmetered deals for Conti and Brennan/McKenzie will soon be metered, creating a squeeze on the players (such as the Hoskings) whose deals have always counted toward the $100k ASA cap.

Richmond's list architect Ted Mosby wouldn't have needed long to identify the most expendable ASA soaker-upper. At that point, it becomes a question of: do you want to take a pay cut, or do you want to take your chances on the open market?

It is also these changes to the ASA rules which render the idea of fitting Alyce Parker onto the same list as Conti and McKenzie as... fanciful, at best. And yet these new rules could also be the catalyst for a contract standoff between Parker's manager (the rather bloodthirsty Alex Saundry--who also represents Brennan, McKenzie, the Hoskings and, until recently, Tayla Harris) and GWS.

Yes but ,,,,the opportunity for third party agreements that are outside of ASA is far greater in Melb than Sydney for W players ,,,eg conti and Swinburne

 

[Bojangles17]

The Bulldogs would trade pick 1 for her in a heartbeat.

Why would McKenzie agree to a trade though? It seems the only plausible reason she'd want out is if Richmond downgraded her from tier 1 to tier 2, but at that point she'd be able to sign as a free agent on a tier 1 contract at the Bulldogs.

Further, if Richmond was frustrated with McKenzie's reliability, why would they trade her for a 0-game teenager whose reliability is even more doubtful. Makes no sense to even consider trading her unless it's for a not-too-old proven 2IC a la Anne Hatchard--again, Adelaide would definitely do that trade, banking on being the winner in the long run.

Won’t happen , players of Mackenzie’s ability are as rare as rocking horse @&#$# in the W game , peeps who nothing of game think the draft is the same as the men’s , WB former no 1 pic few seasons ago wants out to freo , bet no one’s ever heard of her , far less even knew

 

[Stan Judkins]

We should trade McKenzie. Never gets on the park and would get us a top 3 draft pick.

would you even know who we would get with a pick 1, 2 or 3 this draft?

i do, i can tell you there are no Prespakis or Rowbottom this year
the best have already been pre-listed by Power, Dons, Hawks and Swans

do you want to end up with another Molan?
crazy, Lord of the Wings, just crazy

 

[Stan Judkins]

Won’t happen , players of Mackenzie’s ability are as rare as rocking horse @&#$# in the W game , peeps who nothing of game think the draft is the same as the men’s , WB former no 1 pic few seasons ago wants out to freo , bet no one’s ever heard of her , far less even knew

yeah i do, she's Gabby Newton, the pick we gave WB for Mon Conti in 2020.
same draft year that we picked Molan at No5

best trade of a No1 pick that has been made in the AFL or AFLW history by my reckoning.

 

[Stan Judkins]

All clubs (excluding Sydney) have to consolidate their Additional Services Agreements to fit within the new prescribed limit by 2025. Previously unmetered deals for Conti and Brennan/McKenzie will soon be metered, creating a squeeze on the players (such as the Hoskings) whose deals have always counted toward the $100k ASA cap.

Richmond's list architect Ted Mosby wouldn't have needed long to identify the most expendable ASA soaker-upper. At that point, it becomes a question of: do you want to take a pay cut, or do you want to take your chances on the open market?

It is also these changes to the ASA rules which render the idea of fitting Alyce Parker onto the same list as Conti and McKenzie as... fanciful, at best. And yet these new rules could also be the catalyst for a contract standoff between Parker's manager (the rather bloodthirsty Alex Saundry--who also represents Brennan, McKenzie, the Hoskings and, until recently, Tayla Harris) and GWS.

the Alyce Parker talk/excitement is just that, a dream really.
1) Parker would have to want to leave GWS
2) she then would have to decide what she wants, money? success? or both.
3) where would she get what she wants in 2), Ess, Geel or Tiges? supposedly?
4) with Alyce Parker's manager (the rather bloodthirsty Alex Saundry) involved whatever happens, it's going to be very difficult

but... "Parker weighing up significant rival interest" is a story by Riley Beverage, the same journo that said Ally Morphet (Swans)
was doing the same, but re-signed for 4 years, 2 days after his story.

if i were a betting man, i'd put my money on Parker staying with GWS

 

[Phar Ace]

It seems the only plausible reason she'd want out is if Richmond downgraded her from tier 1 to tier 2, but at that point she'd be able to sign as a free agent on a tier 1 contract at the Bulldogs.

Seriously doubt she gets traded - that's click bait by LOTW. She could be Tiered down though - these things have a way of working out well for all parties.

 

[Phar Ace]

the Alyce Parker talk/excitement is just that, a dream really.
1) Parker would have to want to leave GWS
2) she then would have to decide what she wants, money? success? or both.
3) where would she get what she wants in 2), Ess, Geel or Tiges? supposedly?
4) with Alyce Parker's manager (the rather bloodthirsty Alex Saundry) involved whatever happens, it's going to be very difficult

but... "Parker weighing up significant rival interest" is a story by Riley Beverage, the same journo that said Ally Morphet (Swans)
was doing the same, but re-signed for 4 years, 2 days after his story.

if i were a betting man, i'd put my money on Parker staying with GWS

You don't think Saundry would do anything in regard manipulating the media or perhaps something underhand to better Parker's contract arrangements do you?