Recruiting Trade/Draft Talk III - Zaharakis for a SIG BET?

[eDPS]

I started the Simpkin bandwagon on here so of course I go with him. Highly doubt he makes it to us but would be an absolute steal at 20 and would grab him over anyone else that could slide to that pick

 

[eDPS]

I really think we gotta avoid calling it a super draft or anything like that. Most of the time the experts make comments like "there's a good group of talls coming through" and through a series of Chinese whispers, the media and forum posters start saying stuff like "it's stacked with talls" or "next year's top 10 is much better than this year's."

I've already compiled an ordered list of 60+ players eligible to be drafted next year based on what I've seen this year. My take, at the moment not much excites me outside my current top 25. While there's plenty to like about those inside my top 25, there's a long way to go, some will clean up their flaws and improve upon their strengths, other won't and will drop down the order. Players from outside that picture will come up through the year after big individual off-seasons.

To share some of what I've seen. IMO I have a clear top 2, Connor Ballenden, if he continues the way he's gone so far, he'll be among the best key forwards to come through the draft over the last few years (Brisbane academy member). Jarrod Brander, I prefer as a CHB, but he can play forward or even through the midfield at 195cm (currently in the GWS academy). After that, the rest of the top 25 would be comparable to this years top 25, and that's not a bad thing, I just think we'll be disappointed if we over-hype it too much.

My favourite 2 At the moment are Darcy Fogarty and Lochie O'Brien with Brander, Ballenden, Davies-Uniacke and Rayner not far behind. Also have Worpel, Callum-Jones, Garner, Stephenson, Naylor and Higgins looking like first round prospects

 

[GUMBLETRON]

Most of the time the experts make comments like "there's a good group of talls coming through" and through a series of Chinese whispers, the media and forum posters start saying stuff like "it's stacked with talls" or "next year's top 10 is much better than this year's."

That and a lot can change in a year. One of the reasons the Saints took McCartin over Petracca in 2014 was that they didn't expect many quality talls the following year - you know, other than Weitering, Schache, Francis, Weideman, Curnow, Hipwood, Himmelberg and the McKays.

 

[DraftMe]

My favourite 2 At the moment are Darcy Fogarty and Lochie O'Brien at the moment with Brander, Ballenden, Davies-Uniacke and Rayner not far behind. Also have Worpel, Callum-Jones, Garner, Stephenson, Naylor and Higgins looking like first round prospects

Yeah, you've named most of my top 10 in that group. This could be the first time Fogarty dedicates a full off/pre season to training like a full-time midfielder which could see him come back slightly leaner and as the most dominant mid in the comp. I think a lot of people on this board will start to love O'Brien when they see the similarities to Zach Merrett.

I like Balta and Clavarino a lot too. One roughie I'll chuck in there is Nathan Kreuger from SA. That young man is very raw but could be a star!

 

[eDPS]

Yeah, you've named most of my top 10 in that group. This could be the first time Fogarty dedicates a full off/pre season to training like a full-time midfielder which could see him come back slightly leaner and as the most dominant mid in the comp. I think a lot of people on this board will start to love O'Brien when they see the similarities to Zach Merrett.

I like Balta and Clavarino a lot too. One roughie I'll chuck in there is Nathan Kreuger from SA. That young man is very raw but could be a star!

Spoke to Sheehan about O'Brien at the last Bendigo game I went to and he absolutely loves him and I even brought up the Zerrett comparison. Yeah Naylor is my roughie he plays a lot like Hurley he is only 188 now but could still grow

 

[Tippa43]

Found 2 vids of Fogarty on youtube, looks like a good talent. Would a fair comparison be Stringer? Except Darcy plays more mid?

 

[eDPS]

Found 2 vids of Fogarty on youtube, looks like a good talent. Would a fair comparison be Stringer? Except Darcy plays more mid?

Nailed it

 

[boncer34]

Lighten up

Or don't be a dick.

Either or.

 

[Zach Package]

Who would we choose if both Simpkin and Battle were available at 20? I believe they're our preferences baring a dramatic slider.

Battle.

The rationale being that 29 is not getting us a good tall, but it could easily get us a small on par with Simpkin

 

[eDPS]

Battle.

The rationale being that 29 is not getting us a good tall, but it could easily get us a small on par with Simpkin

I can't agree there, not many players in this draft have his mix of speed and skill, most in this draft have one or the other especially after pick 20 or so

 

[scanlon]

Noah Balta going to be a very scary prospect

 

[TheGreatBarryB]

Or don't be a dick.

Either or.

On the contrary I don't think you were being a dick at all.. btw have no idea what you're so concerned about

 

[TheGreatBarryB]

don patch sword .. is we get McClugg and Berry, are they (if at all) too similar?

 

[Tippa43]

Noah Balta going to be a very scary prospect

Got any info on him?

 

[eDPS]

don patch sword .. is we get McClugg and Berry, are they (if at all) too similar?

Nah not really Berry will always be a more solid player build wise and plays with a bit more agression but with less skill and vision.

 

[scanlon]

Got any info on him?

Hes about 195/6cm now I think. Touted as a key forward now after a growth spurt, but has enough agility and speed to play midfield. Great mark aswell.

 

[The Bomb]

don patch sword .. is we get McClugg and Berry, are they (if at all) too similar?

Not at all, I've spoken to Jarrod Berry a couple of times after Rebel games, he relies on his great physical attributes, McCluggage relies on his pure footy smarts.
Berry stated that McCluggage is the best player he has ever played with great compliment when Berry has also played with Hopper.
Also the coach seen how he has struggled a bit through the 2016 season, so let him play more forward for the last month to let him show how versatile he can be, but once again got injured.
From what I have been told he has had a bit of a tough time this season as things just haven't fallen his way, but he has kept slugging away.

 

[sin411]

Would love Clarke, i have a fondness for underagers.

Plus if we follow recent circumstance, Zerret is better than Jerret so Clarke should be the better brother, ayeeee

 

[eDPS]

Not at all, I've spoken to Jarrod Berry a couple of times after Rebel games, he relies on his great physical attributes, McCluggage relies on his pure footy smarts.
Berry stated that McCluggage is the best player he has ever played with great compliment when Berry has also played with Hopper.
Also the coach seen how he has struggled a bit through the 2016 season, so let him play more forward for the last month to let him show how versatile he can be, but once again got injured.
From what I have been told he has had a bit of a tough time this season as things just haven't fallen his way, but he has kept slugging away.

Berry has astounding character and I don't think we would hesitate calling his name out at 20 if he is available

 

[Tippa43]

Not at all, I've spoken to Jarrod Berry a couple of times after Rebel games, he relies on his great physical attributes, McCluggage relies on his pure footy smarts.
Berry stated that McCluggage is the best player he has ever played with great compliment when Berry has also played with Hopper.
Also the coach seen how he has struggled a bit through the 2016 season, so let him play more forward for the last month to let him show how versatile he can be, but once again got injured.
From what I have been told he has had a bit of a tough time this season as things just haven't fallen his way, but he has kept slugging away.

Yep admire his effort and attitude. Also handy when forward! Being 190 plus he is a great prospect.

 

[The Bomb]

Berry has astounding character and I don't think we would hesitate calling his name out at 20 if he is available

He wasn't happy with his form this season, it's feels like he thinks he's letting people down, but in fact he has been excellent and the coach and players have loved his effort, great kid, just has super high expectations of himself.

 

[eDPS]

He wasn't happy with his form this season, it's feels like he thinks he's letting people down, but in fact he has been excellent and the coach and players have loved his effort, great kid, just has super high expectations of himself.

Yep I felt expectation was what held him back more than anything this year, if he played like he did last year he would almost be favourite for pick 1. If anyone wants to see him at full flight should watch his championships last year playing with guys like Parish and he was awesome.

 

[Tippa43]

Yep I felt expectation was what held him back more than anything this year, if he played like he did last year he would almost be favourite for pick 1. If anyone wants to see him at full flight should watch his championships last year playing with guys like Parish and he was awesome.

Yep phenomenal over two years even if he didnt think he did as well this year, sneaky top ten chance?

 

[eDPS]

Yep phenomenal over two years even if he didnt think he did as well this year, sneaky top ten chance?

Think he goes anywhere from 7-20 I'd be shocked if he made it to us and we should get a better idea closer to the draft when people like Cal, Emma and Brett get some whispers before the draft

 

[Tippa43]

Think he goes anywhere from 7-20 I'd be shocked if he made it to us and we should get a better idea closer to the draft when people like Cal, Emma and Brett get some whispers before the draft

Would you take him over Simpkin at 20?