List Mgmt. Trade & F/A - 2020

[Soups]

Rookie at best now Soups yeah?

Yeah play him in the lower leagues. He’s no good

 

[Harry O]

One thing the media missed about Gil’s comment on the draft today, was I reckon he seemed to hint that only the top end 18 yo’s might get picked this year. Maybe 1 per team with any other picks older players or delisted players

 

[TradeDraft]

One thing the media missed about Gil’s comment on the draft today, was I reckon he seemed to hint that only the top end 18 yo’s might get picked this year. Maybe 1 per team with any other picks older players or delisted players

So we get Reef for Cheap then IF only get 1 18 year old?

 

[Harry O]

So we get Reef for Cheap then IF only get 1 18 year old?

Maybe, maybe not. Only takes one team to bid on him early...

 

[unplugged]

The AFL couldn't afford not to have the draft lead-up to fill more newspaper pages for the 2 weeks leading up to the draft.

 

[jmac70]

Can someone give me a brief synapses on this Reef fellow?

 

[jackcass]

Can someone give me a brief synapses on this Reef fellow?

How about a synopsis, and we leave his joints alone.

 

[Saintly Viewed]

Can someone give me a brief synapses on this Reef fellow?

really good prospect, first round prospect.

Everything else is yet to happen.

 

[AndrewShawble]

any free agents or fringe players we should be targeting?

I'm not talking about stars, maybe someone like how crisp was at Brissy

 

[Soups]

Can someone give me a brief synapses on this Reef fellow?

There’s one on the previous page.

 

[Jen2310]

Can someone give me a brief synapses on this Reef fellow?

Has some kind of mullet on him.

 

[adammania9]

any free agents or fringe players we should be targeting?

I'm not talking about stars, maybe someone like how crisp was at Brissy

Been thinking about how we might need to replenish our depth soon as players like Reid, Varcoe and Dunn are obviously cooked and then Mayne, Greenwood, Langdon (injury) etc. are now approaching the end of their careers. If lists are shortened, I think it's important not to put too much stock into potential particularly for a side as injury riddled as ours who need the depth. We're gonna need players who can play and have an impact in order to win a premiership.

A player I like from another club who I reckon is being played out of his best role is Sam Menegola whose toughness and ferocity would go a long way in a half-back and occasional tagging role. If you look past his age (will turn 29 in 2021), he would be a good pick up particularly if Greenwood can't come good from his ACL.

I also like Tom Liberatore as a no nonsense hard-at-it midfielder but I am aware of his injury history and the fact that he is a cult hero at the Bulldogs and the supporters love him. He's a free agent this year and I think he'd add so much more to our midfield than Sier or Wills who are often the last midfield selection.

I think we have our fair share of skill and class on our list; I'd like us to go shopping for more selfless players who will let other players get more out of their abilities. Think if Libba can join us as a centre bounce starter, we can pretty much play Treloar exclusively as an outside mid where he does his most damage.

I would love to trade for a key forward but the options are appalling. Peter Wright might be the best obtainable one? And I do not rate him at all.

 

[Robroy22]

Been thinking about how we might need to replenish our depth soon as players like Reid, Varcoe and Dunn are obviously cooked and then Mayne, Greenwood, Langdon (injury) etc. are now approaching the end of their careers. If lists are shortened, I think it's important not to put too much stock into potential particularly for a side as injury riddled as ours who need the depth. We're gonna need players who can play and have an impact in order to win a premiership.

A player I like from another club who I reckon is being played out of his best role is Sam Menegola whose toughness and ferocity would go a long way in a half-back and occasional tagging role. If you look past his age (will turn 29 in 2021), he would be a good pick up particularly if Greenwood can't come good from his ACL.

I also like Tom Liberatore as a no nonsense hard-at-it midfielder but I am aware of his injury history and the fact that he is a cult hero at the Bulldogs and the supporters love him. He's a free agent this year and I think he'd add so much more to our midfield than Sier or Wills who are often the last midfield selection.

I think we have our fair share of skill and class on our list; I'd like us to go shopping for more selfless players who will let other players get more out of their abilities. Think if Libba can join us as a centre bounce starter, we can pretty much play Treloar exclusively as an outside mid where he does his most damage.

I would love to trade for a key forward but the options are appalling. Peter Wright might be the best obtainable one? And I do not rate him at all.

You like pickin blokes who's had knee problems don't you?

 

[TradeDraft]

There is also doubt on the future of the next generation academies. The AFL asks for club views on the level of club investment in junior talent in the new economy.

Sounds like the Academies might get the Ass. Though I bet Northern State teams can keep them

AFL planning a long-term overhaul of the game

The AFL is planning a long-term overhaul of the game, and not just for the next two seasons, to deal with “the new economy”.

www.theage.com.au

 

[Jen2310]

Sounds like the Academies might get the Ass. Though I bet Northern State teams can keep them

AFL planning a long-term overhaul of the game

The AFL is planning a long-term overhaul of the game, and not just for the next two seasons, to deal with “the new economy”.

www.theage.com.au

Its more important in the northern states. To develop players.

 

[BEEG]

I was told today Greenwood is flying and to not be surprised if he is back sooner then we think.

 

[TradeDraft]

Its more important in the northern states. To develop players.

Yeah but unfair they get them so young

 

[soreplums]

I was told today Greenwood is flying and to not be surprised if he is back sooner then we think.

Who would have thought that he could be back for Round 2?!!

 

[Kappa]

No chance that Jordy is negotiating himself a new deal at another club; they'd tear him to shreds. At Collingwood there is a mutual respect and the club won't take advantage of him. He's not going anywhere.

The club won't take advantage of him... Wink wink nudge nudge.

We have seriously bad list managers if they can't take advantage of a young guy with no contract experience or qualifications.

 

[Jen2310]

Yeah but unfair they get them so young

They may be able to go into the academy at a young age (14, I think) and develop them. But given the game is growing over in those areas, the more exposure to the game and programs the better. Plus out of all academy players, only a small percentage even get picked up. But at least the program is there to give kids a chance.

 

[Anzacday]

We have seriously bad list managers if they can't take advantage of a young guy with no contract experience or qualifications.

If you wrote this for a bite - you win.
If you genuinely believe it, I feel sorry for you.

 

[TradeDraft]

They may be able to go into the academy at a young age (14, I think) and develop them. But given the game is growing over in those areas, the more exposure to the game and programs the better. Plus out of all academy players, only a small percentage even get picked up. But at least the program is there to give kids a chance.

Can say the same for every clubs Academy

 

[Kappa]

If you wrote this for a bite - you win.
If you genuinely believe it, I feel sorry for you.

Its a cut throat industry, impossible to win premierships if youre weak at the contract table. You don't build dynasties overpaying players, it's the opposite.

Its how the real world works in a highly competitive environment.

I've been part of CBA negotiations before, every inch is bitterly fought over by both sides, that's what a manager is there to do for players... Their entire role is basically to stop players getting screwed in terms of money or conditions/fine print.

 

[Anzacday]

Kappa I’m not disputing “the real world”.
My issue is the inference we would take advantage of him.
We ask our players to give their heart and soul to the club and then rip them off at the first chance?
Not how I’d like to think we treat our players.
In fact, (as I have stated previously) I know players/negotiations are treated with a lot more dignity.

 

[Johno9911]

I also like Tom Liberatore as a no nonsense hard-at-it midfielder but I am aware of his injury history and the fact that he is a cult hero at the Bulldogs and the supporters love him. He's a free agent this year and I think he'd add so much more to our midfield than Sier or Wills who are often the last midfield selection.

I think we have our fair share of skill and class on our list; I'd like us to go shopping for more selfless players who will let other players get more out of their abilities. Think if Libba can join us as a centre bounce starter, we can pretty much play Treloar exclusively as an outside mid where he does his most damage.

Libba is certainly an interesting one to bring up. Could only really ever work if he’s being selected to play purely as clearance, inside mid role to release the likes of Pendles, Treloar and Sidebottom (and allow us to use JDG more inside 50). We’ve seen the bulldogs try Libba in other roles around the ground and he doesn’t have any versatility or knack for an alternate position. Contract expires end of next year so would have to be a trade this year.

In terms of free agents from the Dogs, Jackson Trengrove would be one I’d look at. Pretty versatile big man who’d offer us a lot of flexibility in structure or at worst be solid KPD depth.