List Mgmt. Trade & Free Agency Part 10

Do you support the club trading for picks 2 and/or 3?

  • Yes Trade for 2 & 3

  • Yes But Only For 2 or 3

  • No

  • Unsure


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Trade & Free Agency Dates

Free Agency Period - Friday October 4th 9am to Friday October 11th 5pm

Trade Period - Monday 7th October 9am to Wednesday October 16th 7.30pm

Richmond have been linked to the following players:
Elijah Tsatas
Jai Culley
Jacob Konstanty
 
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So there are 7+ players 25yo+ per club on better contracts than Graham's newly signed Free Agency deal.

But ther is NOT 1.2 players 25yo+ per club on better deals than Harry Perryman and Josh Battle.

And there are NOT 3.5 players 25yo+ per club on more than Isaac Cumming.

By official player ratings Cummings, Graham and Perryman are similarly performed players over their careers.


So either Graham is not as good as he once was or is generally expected to deteriorate more rapidly than the others, OR

Graham was not genuinely in our best 22 in recent years, OR

Richmond has not offered him a good enough contract to retain him, which in the case of the club believing he is a best 22 player indefinitely would be a pretty bad list management error, OR

The AFL has rorted Richmond with the FA compensation, and/or we have the astonishing situation where Battle and Ferrymen are in the top 1.2 paid players 25yo+ per club in the AFL, and Cumming is in the top 3 per club.

• Contract length;
• Base payments;
• Total match payments;
• Total ASA payments;

JG: 4 years @ 500k
Battle, Perryman, Cumming: 6 years @ 900k each?

Chuck in Saints Prez whingefest trumps Damo's whinge
 
Worst part of this is that Damo + all the other media people who have spoken out on how the compo has been ridiculously high will say how fair this deal in comparison to the others and applaud it instead of focusing on us being ****ed over again.

This is the point

It’s actually about right

However when all the others have been overs you can’t just randomly applaud one being about right and ignore the fact that you’ve shafted one team

Again


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I reckon Shai Bolton + pick 32 for Freo's 10,11 & 18 is fair, I would walk away if they don't do that honestly, we need to stop being soft at the trade table, I could care less what the media personalities like Barrett say!
That's not a bad deal.
 
Remain Calm All Is Well GIF
 
“So what if the Shai Bolton deal gets really tough?” Ralph asked on Fox Footy’s Trading Day on Monday night.

“We know that Richmond is very grumpy – they want Picks 10 and 11. What if they (the Dockers) potentially go: ‘OK, Plan B. We’ll have a crack at Chad Warner to Fremantle. Picks 10, 11 and 18.’

“Is there any chance they say ‘we’ll just throw everything at Chad Warner and go and win a flag next year’?”

yeah right, it's that easy.
 
Hope the Doggies really spit the dummy with Cats and refuse to trade. Would be hilarious if it fell to our PSD pick. Can't remember the last time someone ended up having to be drafted at pick 1 in the PSD due to a dispute.
Smith via psd
Cats fall off cliff
Smith too cats for pick 5
Meow
 
Did you say the same when Ellis got us pick 40 when he signed a huge (at the time) 600k 5 year deal. Probably equates to 800k+ deal now.
Probably did, because I have a good understanding of how the AFL works out compensation.

Sure it would have been great to get band 2 or 3 for Graham, and I was hoping for it like everyone else but when you look at what we got it's quite clear that we didn't get it because we didn't value him high enough to give him the type of contract that would force WCE to outbid us to the point where it would trigger the compensation that we were after. That's what happens when we offer average money for average players and they then sign for another club without getting paid A grade money.
 
Sure, if you're that naive then good for you.

This is the first time in the history of AFL Free Agency that a 4 year deal hasn't got band 1, 2 or 3.

But yeah, believe what you want to believe. This is why the AFL get away with everything.
Any reason you're not including Adam Tomlinson in this free agency history?

Tomlinson was younger than Graham on a 4 year deal and got the same band 4 compo.
 

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Read what I wrote poindexter. I said what did the club say after the Motlop compensation a year later? Gale rightly bitched and moaned after the Ellis compo..... they then explained the parameters to justify our compo. Motlops contract was inferior in every category yet resulted in a superior pick. That's when the club should've gone berserk throwing their insipid justification in their face, demanding the ledger be squared up.
Haha, it's spelt Poindexter with a capital 'P', Champ.

Before levelling insults at someone you should get your facts straight.

The Motlop deal was in 2017, a full 2 years BEFORE the Ellis deal, not the year after as you have wrongfully claimed.

 
If you believe that Jack Graham moved to Western Australia for less money than you're dumber than I thought.

The argument of increased TPP doesn't wash either as we got band 4, not band 3 to adjust for that.

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Brandon Ellis had 5 years @ $600k so more money and longer term and was AA u22 team every year also AA squad in the previous year yet we got far less than motlop and our Cuckold leadership said and did nothing.
I'm so glad I'm just a fan and not a member after reading those comments. I'd feel like a moron if I was a member 🤣🤣🤣
 
If GCS or Freo offer tasty draft picks if we pay part of Rioli or Bolton's salary we'd be stupid not to. We have tons of cap space and will have for a few years to come.
Freo chasing Wagner.
We pay 250k of Bolton's contract.
That's 250k xtra freo can offer Wagner.
No brainer
 
“So what if the Shai Bolton deal gets really tough?” Ralph asked on Fox Footy’s Trading Day on Monday night.

“We know that Richmond is very grumpy – they want Picks 10 and 11. What if they (the Dockers) potentially go: ‘OK, Plan B. We’ll have a crack at Chad Warner to Fremantle. Picks 10, 11 and 18.’

“Is there any chance they say ‘we’ll just throw everything at Chad Warner and go and win a flag next year’?”

yeah right, it's that easy.
Ralph is as dumb as dogshit. The Swans wouldn't trade Warner this year for 2 x top 5 picks, as they want a flag now, not draft picks.

The AFL media are all nongs, morons, mouth breathers.
 
“So what if the Shai Bolton deal gets really tough?” Ralph asked on Fox Footy’s Trading Day on Monday night.

“We know that Richmond is very grumpy – they want Picks 10 and 11. What if they (the Dockers) potentially go: ‘OK, Plan B. We’ll have a crack at Chad Warner to Fremantle. Picks 10, 11 and 18.’

“Is there any chance they say ‘we’ll just throw everything at Chad Warner and go and win a flag next year’?”

yeah right, it's that easy.

good SHai stays at RFC
 
“So what if the Shai Bolton deal gets really tough?” Ralph asked on Fox Footy’s Trading Day on Monday night.

“We know that Richmond is very grumpy – they want Picks 10 and 11. What if they (the Dockers) potentially go: ‘OK, Plan B. We’ll have a crack at Chad Warner to Fremantle. Picks 10, 11 and 18.’

“Is there any chance they say ‘we’ll just throw everything at Chad Warner and go and win a flag next year’?”

yeah right, it's that easy.
That's fine then, we go & speak to WC & see if we can do a deal for pick 3 for Bolton. Why Freo get the outstanding services of Warner after his outstanding game in the GF who helped the Swans win the premiership. Oh! hold on that's right Warner was a spud in the GF & the swans got flogged. Go for it Freo, enjoy being an average team that won't win a premiership.
 
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