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What does he mean when he says off favour ??
FFs no Greeks in the team just call him souvlaki and everyone will know who you mean1 You can spell souvlaki right?I really hope we dont get tsatas or what ever his name is
I just got used to spelling Vlastuin & Lefau dont think i can post in that thread and constantly cop paste a bloody name again
I really hope we dont get tsatas or what ever his name is
I just got used to spelling Vlastuin & Lefau dont think i can post in that thread and constantly cop paste a bloody name again
Just call him 'Taters'FFs no Greeks in the team just call him souvlaki and everyone will know who you mean1 You can spell souvlaki right?![]()
Can’t spell it but can certainly eat ‘emFFs no Greeks in the team just call him souvlaki and everyone will know who you mean1 You can spell souvlaki right?![]()
I highly doubt GC will have #5 end of the season
GC v Richmond
Carlton v St Kilda
Battle compo there pick will be #8 when taken
#8 & #16/18 is overs for Rioli but if we contribute $200k a year it balances it out
Think it was meant to be of favour, as in the in the preferred option of the 2What does he mean when he says off favour ??
Clubs can manipulate salaries to suit purposeWill teams be offering a $1m plus contract for Battle?
The salary cap is huge ($17.7m) next year and onwards. If the AFL don’t manipulate free agency compo, $1m+ should be the absolute minimum. This is why I would only be expecting band 4/5 compo for Graham unless the offer from West Coast is north of $750k a year.
I am not devaluing him, I could also ask why are you and others so hell bent on over valuing him?Morro, he turns 28 on April 16. This year that would've been Round 6. So he's not 28 the start of the season.
He'll be 31 when he's starting his 5th season with his new club. That's hardly an unreasonable age to be still playing really good footy in this day and age. In fact, it's probably more likely than not.
Why are you so intent on devaluing him? I mean, I can see why you're trying to offset the chance of disappointment with the trade, that's reasonable, people do that all the time. But there's a pretty decent chance here that we can cash in on the desperation of his destination club (never thought I'd ever use those last two words to describe the Suns)
Read the earlier posts clearly explaining why Gold Coast Suns need to pay premium draft currency for Rioli. I'll include one of mine below.
From August 3rd
Even overlooking the fact that they have historically devalued top end draft picks by giving up their own Pick #7 to offload Bowes, or parting with their Pick #2 for Weller, or any number of other trade mindbogglers over the years, there are a host of other rationales for them paying "overs" for someone like Dan Rioli.
We need to look at the trade through the Suns lens. This is a team absolutely desperate for finals action, and desperate to make the play for Dimma be and appear worthwhile. If this Dimma experiment flops for them, it's difficult to see them making serious ground on the Lions or in Queensland at all for the next decade.
Now has to be their time. Ultimately all of these "toys" are going to demand an increase in their salary for their second (or third) contract that will stretch their coffers even further, and suddenly another series of exits will happen - Tassie for one will be throwing the cheque book around big time in 2026 and onwards, let alone Collingwood and Richmond with massive war chests due to legends retiring and growing discontent in their respective massive fanbases.
ATEOTD, Dan Rioli is contracted, is AA quality, has four or five strong years of footy left in him (far longer than their patience with Dimma if they haven't franked their draft outlay by then), is incredibly durable, and has that extra special x-factor in that he's indigenous ... and better still, viewed as an indigenous leader.
The importance of this last point should never be underestimated in a footy club, especially a northern Australian club who've traditionally struggled to get the best out of (and hang onto) their indigenous lads - Jeffrey, Lemmens, Rosas, Rankine, Nicholls, JMartin, Sumner, Patrick, Garlett, Hall, Bennell, Wilkinson, and probably quite a few more I can't think of atm, have all under-achieved or gone wayward at the Suns. Harbrow was a wonderful leader, but he was no Rioli. That name alone carries serious currency.
The Suns MUST pay overs. If it was the Bulldogs or Essendon, at best we could ask for is probably a Pick #8-12, because that's how things work down here. But the reality is the trading climate differs significantly when the Suns are involved, especially in their current predicament. And if Richmond were to chip in a significant proportion of Dan's salary at the Suns, which is entirely feasible and reasonable given our imminent exits, then this augurs for an even better deal for us.
A draft pick 6-8 AND another pick 12-15 should be the absolute minimum for our starting point. And if someone weighs in here and says "no way he's worth that" then I'd probably agree with them.
But that's not the point - all of these factors listed above lean towards us demanding that.
The Gold Coast Suns are at risk of being in the shadow of big brother Brisbane Lions for another decade unless they improve their results dramatically and quickly. Dimma doesn't have 4-5 years out of real top end contention to play with like he did at Tigerland.
No he's not Jeremy Cameron. Different sort of player and role entirely.
But he's no more likely to get injured than Cameron was when he was traded in at 27. Yet you seem a bit caught up with Daniel's lack of durability, as if the chances of him getting a career-ending injury should lower his trade value any more than another 27 year old?
It's 5 letters, campaigner.
would do a straight swap for hopperI can't. Worst. kick. in. the. league.
no they wontSt Kilda will beat Carltoon.
Very likely the case, lot's of budgeted salary cap coming off the books, more than likely the same case with Bolton, enabling the 3 x 1st round picks, combine those 2 savings with the $ set aside for Baker, Graham and Grimes, Dusty (should they have opted for another year) and we're flush with funds.This Rioli trade if it gets through i dont believe it will be as clear cut as some would believe and there would be so many moving parts involved.
* Salary to Rioli is 1 part that would improve and effect the final trade and if Richmond are prepared to cop 50% for the remaining 4 years thats a top 10 pick right there
* Lombard bid will be another and GC will want a pick prior to it but might have to give that pick up as its the integral part of the trade so that leaves #14 & #20 if the 14 gets swallowed up then GC will happily off load that also to get a kick back after the bid. e.g trade F2 for our Graham compo and get back inside the 2nd round
But Salary would be the thing that gets Richmond the #14 imo
Saints are tanking 2 picks not just 1 given the Battle compono they wont
theyll be in party mode and carltoon will throw absolutely everything at them
Just saw Carlton might be down to 26 players this week plus a few who are 50/50.
inagine them next year with fathead holands and the camboreale munted twins running aroundJust saw Carlton might be down to 26 players this week plus a few who are 50/50.
Come on Saints and Freo
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We wants Saints to win too to stay above Gold campaigners. Saints will take LalorCarlton aren't winning shit, even if they make finals. We want Freo to lose. Make them desperate for Shai
I am not as sure about this with Freo.Carlton aren't winning shit, even if they make finals. We want Freo to lose. Make them desperate for Shai
Doubt it. They're very young and lost so many close games. They're alot closer than ladder position suggests. Jackson, Serong & Young are all in 5th season only. Treacy & Amiss are 4th & 3rd. They're in a great position.I am not as sure about this with Freo.
I wanted them to go to deep into finals and see Shai as the missing piece. I wonder if missing finals all together makes them reevaluate their list position more?
they can call him 'Tzatziki' even all the "locals" that pronounce it a Taziki should be able to manage thatFFs no Greeks in the team just call him souvlaki and everyone will know who you mean1 You can spell souvlaki right?![]()
Yeah I agree with all that, was just a thought ya know, relax.Doubt it. They're very young and lost so many close games. They're alot closer than ladder position suggests. Jackson, Serong & Young are all in 5th season only. Treacy & Amiss are 4th & 3rd. They're in a great position.
Even Brayshaw only in his 7th.