Trades For This Week

[reddahaydn1]

hey guys,

i think suban and hill will play....i've got both so with one as an emergency and bock sitting on the bench i think i'm covered...

i'm thinkin of swapping reid for jeff garlett so i can have enough cash to swap anthony for dangerfield who should go up in value enough to make this well and truely worth it.
what do you guys think? will garlett be a decent earner? i dont have enough cash to get zeibel... i dont even have the 10k i need to get dangerfield....it's shattering!

 

[Broadside]

hey guys,

i think suban and hill will play....i've got both so with one as an emergency and bock sitting on the bench i think i'm covered...

i'm thinkin of swapping reid for jeff garlett so i can have enough cash to swap anthony for dangerfield who should go up in value enough to make this well and truely worth it.
what do you guys think? will garlett be a decent earner? i dont have enough cash to get zeibel... i dont even have the 10k i need to get dangerfield....it's shattering!

Do you have Walker in your forward line already? I would have thought he is more likely to stay in the side with Hentschel out than Garlett is (with pressure from Yarran for the same spot).

 

[Stenglein's a Champ!]

Staker -> Houlihan

 

[Baker_for_PM]

Thinking about getting rid of ROK for stevie J. Any thoughts? ROK just not cutting it yet, and maybe getting rid of 1 keeper before price rises is not such a bad idea, maybe, i think, could be , christ knows.

I did this with Rooie and with the extra cash got Houlihan for hill, i was thinking yes no um mayby um then thought F@#K it.

Could be the move that wins it for you.

 

[reddahaydn1]

Do you have Walker in your forward line already? I would have thought he is more likely to stay in the side with Hentschel out than Garlett is (with pressure from Yarran for the same spot).

yeah i have walker...i also have petrenko so having 3 crows might be pushing it....

another option is to swap ANthony for joseph (blues 83k av 72) and reid for zeibell....will joseph feel any pressure from any of the other blues rookies or is his spot pretty solid?

another option is to swap adcock for gilbert and make myself 100k and also get rid of hill for cheney....both of who will go up in value substantially and might outweigh the gains joseph and zeibell will make, although gilbert might not in the long run? with bock sitting on the bench till i know a bit more it might be a better idea to strengthen my backline...
then i could use the 100k next week to swap anthony for dangerfield who might be up around 180ish?

what do you guys think?

 

[writeoff]

The question I am pondering this week is do I trade out injured players or out of form players?

Currently I have 4 injured players - Raines, B Ottens, Hentschel & L Anthony. All four have been listed as 4 week injuries although I suspect that Hentschel & Anthony will be out for longer. I have cover for all four players (fortunately there is one from each position) so should not cop any zeros yet.

I currently have 2 players badly out of form - Lucas & Adcock. Lucas was always a gamble but I was hoping for a return somewhere closer to his 2005/6/7 form (ave ~100) rather than his current return of 67 & 36. Adcock has been a real disappointment. Pre-season games showed that the Lions would play a higher possession game under Voss but this change in gameplan hasn't resulted in higher SC scores for Adcock. And 2 other players - Reilly & Grundy that I hoped for a better return from (in truth I was going to change Grundy before the R1 lockout but was unable to).

Looking long term I thought my ruck combo of Cox & Ottens would be the 2 best rucks of 2009. I still believe this and have Jacobs to cover for Ottens for the 4 weeks.

Hentschel was always a risk and it backfired early. He can be replaced later with a rookie - say B Dick, D Daniher, Hogan or Schoenmakers after R3. Similarly Anthony can be traded out later for either Beams, Zaharakis, or G Moss. I can cover Hentschel with Ziebell & leave Anthony on the pine.

Raines I still believe will be good value & I have Petrenko covering for him atm.

Option A - Out: Lucas & Adcock. In: L Davis & Cheney +$137.9k (to the kitty) & await Raines return.
Option B - Out: Lucas & Adcock. In: S Johnson + Hurn -$12.6k
Option C - Out: Lucas & Hentschel. In: S Johnson & Garlett/Walker -$12.7k
Option D - Out: Reilly & Adcock. In: Rich & J Waite +$80.3k
Option E - Out: Lucas & Reilly. In: Rich & L Davis +$27.4k

Any opinions?

 

[Satan]

got hurley and anthony issues (aint Robinson Crusoe)

my cheaper backs are Suban, petrenko and Schoemaker..

should I trade Hurley for cheney?

My cheaper mids are Rich Ziebell and Robinson

should i hold of anthony till next week

or trade him for dangerfield or otten or joseph this week

or beames, Zackarais next week

 

[Hawkmad]

Thinking of only doing 1 trade this week even though I have some underperformers on my team I am happy to stick with them.
Like everyone else my backline is a little shaky & even played short last week.

Goddard , Lockyer , C.Cornes , Adcock , S.Stevens , Cheney & S.Hill (emg.Suckling & Broughton)

The trade i'm thinking of this week is Hill (which will give me $368,500 to spend) to one of -
S.Gilbert - $302,200 (avg. 106 with scores of 134 & 78) good start but can he keep it going
J.Patful - $334,800 (avg. 101 with scores of 101 & 101) never contemplated him before could he be on the improve??
P.Ryder - $338,900 (avg.99.5 with scores of 99 & 100)
S.Hurn - $286,200 (avg. 97.5 with scores of 81 & 114)
R.Houlihan - $286,200 (avg. 97 with scores of 99 & 95)

So who is going to be the most consistant & best pick up.

 

[razor1]

So who is going to be the most consistant & best pick up.

S.Gilbert - I doubt he can keep it going. he ripped that first week square out of his butt. His second week scoring in the 70s is a more realistic output from him.
[J.Patful - Kind of came out of nowhere didn't he? Can be used more defensively by the Lions so could mean his scores fluctuate a bit.
P.Ryder - Has not needed to be accountable so far this year. His average will drop when he plays better teams that actually need defending.
S.Hurn - Has been let loose in the back line. Good signs.
R.Houlihan - Proven player.....but the average of 97 this year came from a fair bit of downhill skiing and junk-time. Will no doubt average 80-85 but question the effect the return of several injured players might have on his output.

I would go Houlihan. Just don't expect him to average 97.

 

[d4vE]

raines for houlihan/Hurn

stanton for richo ( before stanton drops heaps in price & before richo rises)

 

[IDIG]

After a couple of opinions with my options. I had my mind made up until i saw North's draw.

B - Hodge, Fisher, Newman, Chad, Houlihan, Raines, Geary (Petrenko, Broughton)

M - Ablett, Bartel, Judd, Wells, Skipworth, Rich (Anthony, Robinson)

R - Cox, Leuenberger (Jacobs, Spencer)

F - Buddy, Deledio, Chapman, Fevola, Higgins, Krakour, Brown (Hogan, Walker).

I was locked on - Wells & Raines -> Goddard & Otten
I fell for the Goddard injury talk and have been kicking myself over it since but now seeing North's draw i think Wells could come good. So i could do - Raines & Anthony -> Cheney & Otten
Or go Raines & Leuenberger -> Cheney & Hmac (i think havent done the figures yet) and do Anthony to Zaharakis/Beams the week after.
Thoughts?

 

[razor1]

After a couple of opinions with my options. I had my mind made up until i saw North's draw.

B - Hodge, Fisher, Newman, Chad, Houlihan, Raines, Geary (Petrenko, Broughton)

M - Ablett, Bartel, Judd, Wells, Skipworth, Rich (Anthony, Robinson)

R - Cox, Leuenberger (Jacobs, Spencer)

F - Buddy, Deledio, Chapman, Fevola, Higgins, Krakour, Brown (Hogan, Walker).

I was locked on - Wells & Raines -> Goddard & Otten
I fell for the Goddard injury talk and have been kicking myself over it since but now seeing North's draw i think Wells could come good. So i could do - Raines & Anthony -> Cheney & Otten
Or go Raines & Leuenberger -> Cheney & Hmac (i think havent done the figures yet) and do Anthony to Zaharakis/Beams the week after.
Thoughts?

Firstly, start Walker ahead of Brown this week. Walker scored 40 odd after half time when Hentchel went off. With him missing 4 weeks Walker should increase his scoring potential.

Mate, without a question of a doubt I would go Raines & Leuenberger for Cheney and Hmac. North have games coming up against Hawks, Essendon and Richmond so he should score really heavily. I had my doubts about Hmac's fitness but I have been really surprised by his ability to cover the ground. Leunberger will average you 40 and hurt you all year as he will not increase enough in value to upgrade later down the track.

It's a shame you can't get Otten 'cos he is incredibly versetile and is scoring well and should play every game.

 

[Saints_87]

Im prolly in the same boat as most people, im going to trade raines for either cheney or hurn they both hav pros and cons. if i went cheney i would have 195,000 to upgrade another player and get rid of haselby and adcock con he might not score as well as hurn. if i went hurn i would get better scores but i wouldnt get any money so i couldnt udgrade another player. Any suggestions?

 

[munk3ymark]

After a couple of opinions with my options. I had my mind made up until i saw North's draw.

B - Hodge, Fisher, Newman, Chad, Houlihan, Raines, Geary (Petrenko, Broughton)

M - Ablett, Bartel, Judd, Wells, Skipworth, Rich (Anthony, Robinson)

R - Cox, Leuenberger (Jacobs, Spencer)

F - Buddy, Deledio, Chapman, Fevola, Higgins, Krakour, Brown (Hogan, Walker).

I was locked on - Wells & Raines -> Goddard & Otten
I fell for the Goddard injury talk and have been kicking myself over it since but now seeing North's draw i think Wells could come good. So i could do - Raines & Anthony -> Cheney & Otten
Or go Raines & Leuenberger -> Cheney & Hmac (i think havent done the figures yet) and do Anthony to Zaharakis/Beams the week after.
Thoughts?

I left it a bit long (Razor1 beat me to the punch), but I was just checking a few things- I'm also struggling with the Leuenberger dilemma- their respective draws over the next 6 weeks alone should be enough to convince you that most of the rucks will score more than young Matty during that time (unless Charman's leg falls off or something), and North's is one of the easier ones from a ruck perspective at least. Sigh- what were we thinking?

That said, I'm still not sure if I'm going to trade at all just yet- I have the Raines/Hill/Suban backline dilemma many of us have, but if one of the Freo boys and Petrenko are named I'm OK with taking the lower scores (I think- will undoubtedly change my mind many times in the next day and a bit). Just don't want to chase cows with sideways trades, but Raines-> Cheney could be an alright move- that will give me $290K in the kitty. Even Hill-> Cheney leaves me with $175. Plus however much Cheney increases in value over the next while.

Ponder ponder ponder...

 

[hess]

I was locked on - Wells & Raines -> Goddard & Otten
I fell for the Goddard injury talk and have been kicking myself over it since but now seeing North's draw i think Wells could come good. So i could do - Raines & Anthony -> Cheney & Otten
Or go Raines & Leuenberger -> Cheney & Hmac (i think havent done the figures yet) and do Anthony to Zaharakis/Beams the week after.
Thoughts?

I would be looking to get rid of Leunberger, with HMac going up in price this may be your only chance to do so... although you could wait for a cheap upgrade option to present itself.

I'm looking at these options:
1. Out: Raines and Hentschel
In: Houlihan and Ziebell
Cash: $75 000, Walker on field
2. Out: Raines and Hentschel
In: Cheney and Houlihan
Cash: $115 000, Cheney/Petrenko/Suban on field
3. Out: Raines
In: Hurn
4: Out: Raines and Hentschel
In: Cheney and Ziebell, Cash: $275 000
5. Out: Butler and Raines
In: Robinson and Lake/Shaw

I'm still not sold on Ziebell totally but don't like the idea of Hentschel staying dead on the bench. Houlihan in defence means no starting rookies there which is a good thing.
I can't afford Houlihan without downgrading somewhere so option 3 is what I can do if I decide to sideways trade Raines without ditching Hentschel.
Option 4 gives me a good amount of cash but starting 4 rookies for a stretch.
Option 5 gives me a strong defence and allows me to jump on the Robinson bandwagon, but leaves Hentschel sitting on my bench.

I like all the options and really can't decide....

 

[munk3ymark]

Im prolly in the same boat as most people, im going to trade raines for either cheney or hurn they both hav pros and cons. if i went cheney i would have 195,000 to upgrade another player and get rid of haselby and adcock con he might not score as well as hurn. if i went hurn i would get better scores but i wouldnt get any money so i couldnt udgrade another player. Any suggestions?

Yeah- something I missed mentioning on my previous post. I could, of course, just swap Raines over for Houlihan or Hurn. I expect Cheney will stay around for a while yet, and while he may not hit the dizzy heights of his first week I expect he'll average 50-70 ppg (any Dees people care to weigh in?)- Houlihan I'm kicking myself about, but there you go. Hurn- I was burned by him last year (OK- not his fault he hurt himself, but still), and he has only really played one full season so far, but if he's being let loose a bit more as a running defender then he could be a really nice pickup - he can kick the leather off the ball, and moves alright too.

Cash in the bank is never bad, but if you're planning on losing one of the other guys down the track you'll still get some cash for them, and you may have a keeper in Hurn.

Sorry to muddy the waters somewhat, but I'm wrestling with it too...

 

[hess]

Option A - Out: Lucas & Adcock. In: L Davis & Cheney +$137.9k (to the kitty) & await Raines return.
Option B - Out: Lucas & Adcock. In: S Johnson + Hurn -$12.6k
Option C - Out: Lucas & Hentschel. In: S Johnson & Garlett/Walker -$12.7k
Option D - Out: Reilly & Adcock. In: Rich & J Waite +$80.3k
Option E - Out: Lucas & Reilly. In: Rich & L Davis +$27.4k

Any opinions?

Lucas was always going to take some time to warm up, its not helping that he's spending so much time on the bench. If you don't have one of Skipworth/Higgins/Krakouer I'd swap now.
Give Adcock more time, I'd rather downgrade Raines to Cheney as he'll probably have to work his way back into the side in the reserves and may not be playing his 3rd game until round 10-11, he was only ever there to make money and upgrade so I think he will struggle to do that adequatley now.
If you believe Ottens will still come back well than keep him - personally I think Geelong will manage him very carefully when he returns which could hurt his scores.
Hentschel I agree will struggle to play many games, as you already have Ziebell theres not many downgrade options just yet so you may have to wait until you can get enough cash to upgrade.
Reilly and Grundy can wait given your circumstances IMO.

 

[hellfire]

I've decided to hold on to Harvey.

I've also decided to wait on trading Liam Anthony, word is he isn't far away. But the real reason is that Zaharakis looks a better prospect than Robinson to me, so we have another week to wait.

I want to get rid of Hill regardless of selections (even though he'll probably score 120 ). Looking at Rance and Cheney, not sure who. If I lean towards Rance, I can afford to wait another week, but then that means I can't made another trade next week for injury.

 

[Itsblackandwhite]

Guys - A little help would be appreciated

Whats my greatest worry

Stephen Hill ? -> 94k
Jed Adcock ? -> Houlihan/Hurn/Frawley
Luke Hodge ? -> Gilbee/Waite/Newman
Daniel Wells ? -> Downgrade to an Otten/Upgrade to a Dal Santo/Swan
Andrew Raines? -> Houlihan/Hurn/Frawley/Cheeney


My mids and backs are as follows

B: Fisher,Goddard,Hodge,Malceski,Adcock,Petrenko,Hill (Raines,Suban)
M: Ablett,Cross,Kirk,Wells,Masten,Rich (Beams, Anthony)

Cheers

 

[Liuy]

Stephen Hill ------> Kyle Cheney mate.

 

[Saints_87]

Yeah- something I missed mentioning on my previous post. I could, of course, just swap Raines over for Houlihan or Hurn. I expect Cheney will stay around for a while yet, and while he may not hit the dizzy heights of his first week I expect he'll average 50-70 ppg (any Dees people care to weigh in?)- Houlihan I'm kicking myself about, but there you go. Hurn- I was burned by him last year (OK- not his fault he hurt himself, but still), and he has only really played one full season so far, but if he's being let loose a bit more as a running defender then he could be a really nice pickup - he can kick the leather off the ball, and moves alright too.

Cash in the bank is never bad, but if you're planning on losing one of the other guys down the track you'll still get some cash for them, and you may have a keeper in Hurn.

Sorry to muddy the waters somewhat, but I'm wrestling with it too...

yeh its a tuff one i already have houlihan, im thinking along the lines of hurn now, his price should rise dramatically,thanks for ur help

Here is my team:
BACKS: Goddard, gilbee, houlihan, cornes, malceski, adcock, rance, (raines, broughton)

MIDS: judd, cross, bartel, rich, selwood, haselby (robinson, anthony)

RUCKS: cox, mcintosh (spencer, jacob)

FORWARDS: richo, higgins, skipworth, pav, ziebell, harvey, j riewoldt (brown, walker)

any suggestions i was thinking of getting zaharakis for anthony after this round.

 

[razor1]

Stephen Hill ? -> 94k
Jed Adcock ? -> Houlihan/Hurn/Frawley
Luke Hodge ? -> Gilbee/Waite/Newman
Daniel Wells ? -> Downgrade to an Otten/Upgrade to a Dal Santo/Swan
Andrew Raines? -> Houlihan/Hurn/Frawley/Cheeney

Stephen Hill ? -> 94k Yeah.....especially if you don't have Petrenko or Cheney. This is what I will do this week. Saves you around 70K as well.

Jed Adcock ? -> Houlihan/Hurn/Frawley I thought about getting rid of Adcock long at hard but decided to keep him. He will only need to score 95 to keep his price and will be a good upgrade target not requiring much cash

Luke Hodge ? -> Gilbee/Waite/Newman OMG you didn't just say that did you? Unless you started with 40 trades don't even think about it.

Daniel Wells ? -> Downgrade to an Otten/Upgrade to a Dal Santo/Swan Leave Wells, North have an easy next few games and Wells should bounce back.

Andrew Raines? -> Houlihan/Hurn/Frawley/Cheeney Yeah, get Houlihan....most secure bet.

I would go Hill to Petrenko or Cheney and Raines to Houlihan.

 

[FBDonkey]

Guys - A little help would be appreciated

Whats my greatest worry

Stephen Hill ? -> 94k
Jed Adcock ? -> Houlihan/Hurn/Frawley
Luke Hodge ? -> Gilbee/Waite/Newman
Daniel Wells ? -> Downgrade to an Otten/Upgrade to a Dal Santo/Swan
Andrew Raines? -> Houlihan/Hurn/Frawley/Cheeney


My mids and backs are as follows

B: Fisher,Goddard,Hodge,Malceski,Adcock,Petrenko,Hill (Raines,Suban)
M: Ablett,Cross,Kirk,Wells,Masten,Rich (Beams, Anthony)

Cheers

Your greatest worries are Hill and Raines and whether or not they will play. There is a good chance Wells, Hodge and Adcock will improve throughout the season, esp Wells and Hodge.

 

[munk3ymark]

Guys - A little help would be appreciated

Whats my greatest worry

Stephen Hill ? -> 94k
Jed Adcock ? -> Houlihan/Hurn/Frawley
Luke Hodge ? -> Gilbee/Waite/Newman
Daniel Wells ? -> Downgrade to an Otten/Upgrade to a Dal Santo/Swan
Andrew Raines? -> Houlihan/Hurn/Frawley/Cheeney


My mids and backs are as follows

B: Fisher,Goddard,Hodge,Malceski,Adcock,Petrenko,Hill (Raines,Suban)
M: Ablett,Cross,Kirk,Wells,Masten,Rich (Beams, Anthony)

Cheers

Not sure about your greatest worry but Wells-> Dal Santo looks quite a tasty trade- if you can do it in one then you've got another keeper (although you may well have taken Wells as a keeper to begin with). If Dal keeps up with his current form he'll be worth over $600K next week or two.

Your backline is suffering from similar weaknesses to mine with the cheaper guys, but I'm leaning towards holding them (unless all three rookies are dropped this week)- if I had to lose one it would be Hill. Hodge will come good and Adcock might- a downgrade to those guys you mention will make you some cash, certainly, and of all the possible trades I think I'd be most tempted by that one- the Bears have a tricky few weeks ahead of them- even with a few home games. Hoops and Hurn and maybe Frawley should play most games this year, and have the potential to score the same or better than Adcock, all at $110-$120 cheaper...

 

[dlanod]

My dilemma is Leuenberger playing havoc by basically splitting my aim to win (or at least do well) my league versus my aim to do as well in the rankings as possible. The former means I should save as many trades as possible so he's being kept, the latter means I should look at trading out Leuenberger for McIntosh this week.