- Mar 28, 2023
- 16,854
- 32,751
- AFL Club
- Collingwood
Glad you cleared that up
Training Training Reports and Updates
- Thread starter Jen2310
- Start date
- Tagged users None
- Mar 28, 2023
- 16,854
- 32,751
- AFL Club
- Collingwood
Exactly. It seems we are in agreeance then.
and here I thought it was because the sun was going to supernova
This has 'very possibly' been the most pointless argument that this board has ever had the pleasure of seeing.
- Mar 28, 2023
- 16,854
- 32,751
- AFL Club
- Collingwood
Possibly.
- Mar 16, 2014
- 8,838
- 9,059
- AFL Club
- Collingwood
A third option! I like it.
The Royal Sampler
Floreat Pica, Bitch!
Or because the old one didnāt have enough torque.
Or because Bunnings was having a sale.
Very possibly.
- Jun 10, 2014
- 16,501
- 42,921
- AFL Club
- Collingwood
- May 7, 2011
- 65,539
- 15,070
- AFL Club
- Collingwood
- Other Teams
- Celtics, Tottenham, Oakland Raiders
I know I do.
The Howe move last week was something that had been previously tried at training according to FLY.
Similar unexposed tactics are also likely to have been worked on well before the Carlton loss.
So there is no desperation involved - its just contingency planning which is very sensible.
- Mar 16, 2014
- 8,838
- 9,059
- AFL Club
- Collingwood
I know.
Jen2310
Premium Platinum
- Thread starter
- #6,239
Training - Round 21, Thurs August 3
It was a nice sunny morning for training, apart from the wind, if you were in the shade, as I was for most of the session - then moved torward the cafe for the 2nd half of the morning, when match sim was about to begin.
Not too many media around, given there was a few clubs holding training this morning. Richmond with their captains run, then I heard dogs were at a rare appearance at marvel for training.
Everyone was on track except for Beggy.
When the player came out, this was the teams.
Blacks.
Whites
For all the drills, then come match sim.
Beau is off/on and didn't participate very much
Johnson changes to black
Cox to white (with no Beggy, someone had to be the opposition ruck -- given their intent to not rush Oscar into that position)
Markov white
WHE white
Position changes in match sim:
Ginni didn't see the inside of the F50 at all. Attended every centre bounce.
White midfield set up was: Allan. Ginni. Carmy. Cox Once carmy went off (see below) Reef/HH came into the CB
Blacks was: Pendles (rotating with Nick from HB) De Goey and Mitchell + DC
WHE/JD, Murley/Sidey were on the wings.
Defence for white: Murphy, Markov, Kelly, Bianco, frampton, Ryan, Ruscoe
For black: Moore, IQ, Maynard, Noble, Howe, Crisp, Howe, Pendles
White forwards: Reef, Kreuger, HH, Wilson, Reef, Richards, Steene
Black forwards: Jamie, mihocek (on the "bench") Johnson, Adams, Lippa, Mcstay
** Carmy **
Went off early, I didn't think much of it at the time, thought he was just going to the bench, but then a bit later, I saw someone in a training top (the ones they wear to captain runs) walking across the oval with a trainer -- looking to be heading to scans. I didn't see his face, but by the back of his head it looked like Carmichael.
I've since had it mentioned to me that it was him. Hopefully he's alright and just precautionary.
Fin did some light non contact drills early in the session, then went to the rehab group with Dean where they did a few extensive running sessions. They had a little incident, where they were both walking backwards doing some warm ups, then crash into each other; fall to the ground. They get up laughing. Clumsy kids lol
They started off with some warm up drills. Then started on some drills split up into two different sections of the ground. This was based around pressure and getting the handball to your teammate right in congestion without turning it over.
There were school kids down for some excursion, and they crowded the fence roaring the players names. They were from camberwell south primary.
Darcy was revving them up like he does with the fans at the end of each game.
Post match sim, some players did marking work with the bag, some did running sprints. Then they slowly finished off.
It was a nice sunny morning for training, apart from the wind, if you were in the shade, as I was for most of the session - then moved torward the cafe for the 2nd half of the morning, when match sim was about to begin.
Not too many media around, given there was a few clubs holding training this morning. Richmond with their captains run, then I heard dogs were at a rare appearance at marvel for training.
Everyone was on track except for Beggy.
When the player came out, this was the teams.
Blacks.
- Lippa
- JDG
- IQ
- maynard
- Elliott
- Mitchell
- JDaicos
- Noble
- Pendles
- McStay
- Adams
- DC
- Sidebottom
- Hill
- Crisp
- Moore
- McCreery
- WHE
- NDaicos
- Markov
- Howe
- Mihocek
- Cox
Whites
- Bianco
- Wilson
- Kreuger
- Allan
- Frampton
- Draper
- Kelly
- Ruscoe
- Ryan
- Reef
- Murley
- Murphy
- Richards
- Ginni
- HH
- Johnson
- Oscar
- Carmy
For all the drills, then come match sim.
Beau is off/on and didn't participate very much
Johnson changes to black
Cox to white (with no Beggy, someone had to be the opposition ruck -- given their intent to not rush Oscar into that position)
Markov white
WHE white
Position changes in match sim:
Ginni didn't see the inside of the F50 at all. Attended every centre bounce.
White midfield set up was: Allan. Ginni. Carmy. Cox Once carmy went off (see below) Reef/HH came into the CB
Blacks was: Pendles (rotating with Nick from HB) De Goey and Mitchell + DC
WHE/JD, Murley/Sidey were on the wings.
Defence for white: Murphy, Markov, Kelly, Bianco, frampton, Ryan, Ruscoe
For black: Moore, IQ, Maynard, Noble, Howe, Crisp, Howe, Pendles
White forwards: Reef, Kreuger, HH, Wilson, Reef, Richards, Steene
Black forwards: Jamie, mihocek (on the "bench") Johnson, Adams, Lippa, Mcstay
** Carmy **
Went off early, I didn't think much of it at the time, thought he was just going to the bench, but then a bit later, I saw someone in a training top (the ones they wear to captain runs) walking across the oval with a trainer -- looking to be heading to scans. I didn't see his face, but by the back of his head it looked like Carmichael.
I've since had it mentioned to me that it was him. Hopefully he's alright and just precautionary.
Fin did some light non contact drills early in the session, then went to the rehab group with Dean where they did a few extensive running sessions. They had a little incident, where they were both walking backwards doing some warm ups, then crash into each other; fall to the ground. They get up laughing. Clumsy kids lol
They started off with some warm up drills. Then started on some drills split up into two different sections of the ground. This was based around pressure and getting the handball to your teammate right in congestion without turning it over.
There were school kids down for some excursion, and they crowded the fence roaring the players names. They were from camberwell south primary.
Darcy was revving them up like he does with the fans at the end of each game.
Post match sim, some players did marking work with the bag, some did running sprints. Then they slowly finished off.
Last edited:
RobJD
Club Legend
- Oct 1, 2021
- 1,686
- 3,182
- AFL Club
- Collingwood
Wonder if Josh Carmichael has been carrying a leg injury - noticed on the weekend that almost all his possessions were handballs (unusual for him as he generally has a high kick to handball ration) and when he did kick, his kicks were poor and lacked penetration (unusual for him - kicking is a strength)
Are they training this morning? On a normal week it would be Mon and Wed with captains run on Thursday... but 6 day week does it just change to one session? I can't remember.
2 reports have just dropped on Side by Side this from Anabelle G
A milky-blue sky peppered with whitish clouds greeted the players most of whom entered the arena around 9.20. Later the ground was bathed in radiant sunshine but the wind which played havoc with the playersā kicking during match simulation elevated the chill factor. Prior to the players arriving, all the coaches were ringing the pavilion side and some were in deep discussion.
For the record here is how the black and white top polarity presented:
BLACK:
Maynard
Adams
Elliott
Richards
IQ
Kelly
Cameron
Checkers
Crisp
Frampton
Moore
Hill
Markov
Pendles
JDG
Josh Daicos
Lippa
Crisp
WHITE:
Ginni
Ryan
Begg
WHE
Harrison
Ruscoe
Cox
Murley
Macrae
Reef
Carmichael
Allan
Ryan
Murphy (as per usual)
There were some media types thronging the ground with their huge lenses primed for close scrutiny of the action, so expect some coverage on news services.
The best news of the day was seeing Murphy make an appearance exhibiting a jovial demeanour but most significantly, walking freely with no sign of the injury which required crutches post-match.
Sidey was missing, as was our lodestar Nick, while Kelly did running and agility work on the sidelines as he rehabs from an ankle injury sustained at the captainās run, and Dean continues his recovery from the debilitating foot injury which flared up again earlier this year.
The players entered the arena in good vocal form and for the duration of the session the volume of affirmation was reassuring. .
The players initially attacked the resistance ropes and mini hurdles with gusto, many doing repetitive high kangaroo jumps to negotiate them. Another group; as is customary focussed on ground balls. This is interesting given our issues around ground ball differentials which have been trending south in the second half of the season. A jolly little trio comprising WHE, Ash and Hill did some close-in ball work, enjoying this activity immensely.
Then the whole cohort cleaved and three separate groups formed. One worked assiduously kicking over a medium distance and moving swiftly between their designated spots.
Another concentrated-on handball at a high octane pace as they honed their skill in this area.
The third worked out in the apparatus area, using the available equipment to aid their fitness and isolate key muscle groups. These three stations rotated through the activities.
The whole group then reassembled and did some short sprints between cones to the accompaniment of loud encouragement from all. Word on the street is that we are definitely in a high training loading phase.
All the players then moved to the middle of the ground, formed a closed circle and were clearly listening to coachesā instructions but shortly thereafter, all at the oval heard raucous cheering rising to a crescendo of ululating but nobody was the wiser regarding the source of all this rowdy cheering and affirmation.
Following this there were two clear groups one wore the black tops opposed to those sporting a yellow vest, while the other featured most attired in white with the other half wearing lime-green vests. Both seemed to be undertaking contested work with some tackling and evasion involved.
It was then a flat out sprint to the water station which is something which has been added this year. This appears to be aimed at ensuring that players are accustomed to the burst nature of games which necessitates random sprinting and muscles must be attuned to this. I heard one of the players interviewed and he said one of the issues previously with our training was that most players were trained for endurance with a sense that it catered for a one-paced scenario.
After rehydrating the players raced to the next set of drills with plenty of energy. Most of the players were involved in a whole ground movement activity but the midfielders were isolated and worked together. They included: JDG, Allan, Crisp, Adams, Pendles, Begg, Lippa, Mitchell, Josh D, Cox and Cameron.
At this point Jamie Elliott undertook a random top pace sprint across the length of the ground.
The on-ball brigade then moved to the centre square proper and continued to work on their skills and strategy. The rest of the players seemingly destined for the seniors were at the John Cain Arena end doing some contested work.
It was then the match simulation. This took place on a portion of the ground lengthways but between both wings. There were three teams who all had two games as each got to oppose the other.
One team wore the black tops (the likely seniors), there was another group in white (Murphy was ballast here), with the third donning the yellow vests.
At this point a fair breeze was blowing and some kicks on target for players further up the ground, were blown out of bounds. Players ran quite hard, tackled and performed their tasks with intent. It was pleasing to see Ash working hard (he split the middle on occasions) and some neat passages of play effected despite the conditions militating to an extent against this. Murphy survived the workout but his position in the team may depend on how he pulls up. Carmichael whoād had a hamstring scare was running freely, while the likes of Reef and Fin were travelling incognito with foreign numbers adorning their backs. Similarly JDG whose #2 is always worn by Markov, while Carmichael wore the white version, sported #44 but he looked strong at the contest. Moore had fluro orange boots and matching headband and we joked on the sidelines that if his handballing technique is astray again Friday night in that gear, he will be embarrassed. Word on the terraces is also that some players went in sore against the Hawks and that Checkers (as has been reported widely) is really struggling. McStay was wearing scars after the match as a legacy of the shove into the fence by Sicily.
If training is any guide, the players have awoken from their slumber of complacency inertia as they put in an energised display though it doesnāt guarantee a win. One would expect Frampton to come in, perhaps regardless of whether Murphy makes it to the line or not. If Cameron, Rohan and Hawkins play we really need to have some tall timber down there, especially with our midfield shortcomings. There is also a feeling that Howe forward might be positive in aiding our attack with a school of thought that for whatever reason the backline chemistry has not been the same since his reintegration into that zone.
After the match sim players were involved in sporadic activities with some chatting to coaches, the midfield group again working in the middle and some random goalkicking practice taking place.
A milky-blue sky peppered with whitish clouds greeted the players most of whom entered the arena around 9.20. Later the ground was bathed in radiant sunshine but the wind which played havoc with the playersā kicking during match simulation elevated the chill factor. Prior to the players arriving, all the coaches were ringing the pavilion side and some were in deep discussion.
For the record here is how the black and white top polarity presented:
BLACK:
Maynard
Adams
Elliott
Richards
IQ
Kelly
Cameron
Checkers
Crisp
Frampton
Moore
Hill
Markov
Pendles
JDG
Josh Daicos
Lippa
Crisp
WHITE:
Ginni
Ryan
Begg
WHE
Harrison
Ruscoe
Cox
Murley
Macrae
Reef
Carmichael
Allan
Ryan
Murphy (as per usual)
There were some media types thronging the ground with their huge lenses primed for close scrutiny of the action, so expect some coverage on news services.
The best news of the day was seeing Murphy make an appearance exhibiting a jovial demeanour but most significantly, walking freely with no sign of the injury which required crutches post-match.
Sidey was missing, as was our lodestar Nick, while Kelly did running and agility work on the sidelines as he rehabs from an ankle injury sustained at the captainās run, and Dean continues his recovery from the debilitating foot injury which flared up again earlier this year.
The players entered the arena in good vocal form and for the duration of the session the volume of affirmation was reassuring. .
The players initially attacked the resistance ropes and mini hurdles with gusto, many doing repetitive high kangaroo jumps to negotiate them. Another group; as is customary focussed on ground balls. This is interesting given our issues around ground ball differentials which have been trending south in the second half of the season. A jolly little trio comprising WHE, Ash and Hill did some close-in ball work, enjoying this activity immensely.
Then the whole cohort cleaved and three separate groups formed. One worked assiduously kicking over a medium distance and moving swiftly between their designated spots.
Another concentrated-on handball at a high octane pace as they honed their skill in this area.
The third worked out in the apparatus area, using the available equipment to aid their fitness and isolate key muscle groups. These three stations rotated through the activities.
The whole group then reassembled and did some short sprints between cones to the accompaniment of loud encouragement from all. Word on the street is that we are definitely in a high training loading phase.
All the players then moved to the middle of the ground, formed a closed circle and were clearly listening to coachesā instructions but shortly thereafter, all at the oval heard raucous cheering rising to a crescendo of ululating but nobody was the wiser regarding the source of all this rowdy cheering and affirmation.
Following this there were two clear groups one wore the black tops opposed to those sporting a yellow vest, while the other featured most attired in white with the other half wearing lime-green vests. Both seemed to be undertaking contested work with some tackling and evasion involved.
It was then a flat out sprint to the water station which is something which has been added this year. This appears to be aimed at ensuring that players are accustomed to the burst nature of games which necessitates random sprinting and muscles must be attuned to this. I heard one of the players interviewed and he said one of the issues previously with our training was that most players were trained for endurance with a sense that it catered for a one-paced scenario.
After rehydrating the players raced to the next set of drills with plenty of energy. Most of the players were involved in a whole ground movement activity but the midfielders were isolated and worked together. They included: JDG, Allan, Crisp, Adams, Pendles, Begg, Lippa, Mitchell, Josh D, Cox and Cameron.
At this point Jamie Elliott undertook a random top pace sprint across the length of the ground.
The on-ball brigade then moved to the centre square proper and continued to work on their skills and strategy. The rest of the players seemingly destined for the seniors were at the John Cain Arena end doing some contested work.
It was then the match simulation. This took place on a portion of the ground lengthways but between both wings. There were three teams who all had two games as each got to oppose the other.
One team wore the black tops (the likely seniors), there was another group in white (Murphy was ballast here), with the third donning the yellow vests.
At this point a fair breeze was blowing and some kicks on target for players further up the ground, were blown out of bounds. Players ran quite hard, tackled and performed their tasks with intent. It was pleasing to see Ash working hard (he split the middle on occasions) and some neat passages of play effected despite the conditions militating to an extent against this. Murphy survived the workout but his position in the team may depend on how he pulls up. Carmichael whoād had a hamstring scare was running freely, while the likes of Reef and Fin were travelling incognito with foreign numbers adorning their backs. Similarly JDG whose #2 is always worn by Markov, while Carmichael wore the white version, sported #44 but he looked strong at the contest. Moore had fluro orange boots and matching headband and we joked on the sidelines that if his handballing technique is astray again Friday night in that gear, he will be embarrassed. Word on the terraces is also that some players went in sore against the Hawks and that Checkers (as has been reported widely) is really struggling. McStay was wearing scars after the match as a legacy of the shove into the fence by Sicily.
If training is any guide, the players have awoken from their slumber of complacency inertia as they put in an energised display though it doesnāt guarantee a win. One would expect Frampton to come in, perhaps regardless of whether Murphy makes it to the line or not. If Cameron, Rohan and Hawkins play we really need to have some tall timber down there, especially with our midfield shortcomings. There is also a feeling that Howe forward might be positive in aiding our attack with a school of thought that for whatever reason the backline chemistry has not been the same since his reintegration into that zone.
After the match sim players were involved in sporadic activities with some chatting to coaches, the midfield group again working in the middle and some random goalkicking practice taking place.
This from Nigel Canon
TRAINING WEDNESDAY 9th AUGUST ;-
A nice sunny day for training today but a very strong cool breeze kept the temperature down from 14.8 to feeling like 8.9deg.
Training got underway at 9.20am. Ther was no sign of Nick Daicos of course. Surprisingly Nathan Murphy did the full session and looked as fit as ever. Unbelievable!!! He has certainly dodged a bullet. It remains to be seen whether they play him or not. It all depends on how he pulls up. And apparently Steele Sidebottom is in doubt for Fridayās game due to a foot or ankle problem. Fin Macrae trained but was wearing a protective glove for his broken thumb. Another week on the sidelines for Fin I would think although he didnāt seem to be hampered by it much. And Will Kelly trained ok after being pulled from the starting lineup for the VFL game with an ankle problem. Charlie Dean was the only one in rehab and was doing a lot of running as usual.
Training started with some kick to kick in one group while on the other side of the ground another group was practising the quick handball in a tight area. Following that the group nearest me were doing my favourite drill to watch. i.e. quick handball and tackling in the 30m x 10m area with one team attempting to get from one end to the other in a really tight area while the other group attempted to stop them with solid tackling. Great to watch. One thing that was noticeable in the whole session was the level of intensity and enthusiasm from the players had increased markedly from previous weeks. And they were urged on by Justin Leppitsch that they could still do better. There was a practice match involving the majority of players played across the ground from wing to wing with the boundary markers on the 50m lines. There was a lot of good contested footy from all players but the strong wind was playing havoc with a lot of the kicks and also made marking difficult judging the higher kicks. But once again the enthusiasm had lifted. The session was pretty well wrapped up by a bit after 11am with just a few small groups practising some plans and Mason Cox and Darcy Cameron practising some ruck work in the middle of the ground. Cox also joined in the goal kicking practice before leaving the ground.
INS and OUTS?? I would not have a clue. Regular team players were mixed up with both black and white jumpers so there was really nothing to go on there. Billy Frampton was in the black top which makes me think he might come in even if Murphy does play. We will need him especially if Hawkins plays for the Cats. I donāt think Cox will play after a 5 day break but I think he will certainly be given consideration by the selectors. I hope he plays so Frampton can just play full back which is why we recruited him. And Ginnivan was rested quite a bit in the game against Werribee so he could be a possibility to replace Sidebottom.
So after a couple of pretty ordinary games in the last 2 weeks, letās hope the boys can come out fired up against Geelong and get back on the winners list. GO PIES.
TRAINING WEDNESDAY 9th AUGUST ;-
A nice sunny day for training today but a very strong cool breeze kept the temperature down from 14.8 to feeling like 8.9deg.
Training got underway at 9.20am. Ther was no sign of Nick Daicos of course. Surprisingly Nathan Murphy did the full session and looked as fit as ever. Unbelievable!!! He has certainly dodged a bullet. It remains to be seen whether they play him or not. It all depends on how he pulls up. And apparently Steele Sidebottom is in doubt for Fridayās game due to a foot or ankle problem. Fin Macrae trained but was wearing a protective glove for his broken thumb. Another week on the sidelines for Fin I would think although he didnāt seem to be hampered by it much. And Will Kelly trained ok after being pulled from the starting lineup for the VFL game with an ankle problem. Charlie Dean was the only one in rehab and was doing a lot of running as usual.
Training started with some kick to kick in one group while on the other side of the ground another group was practising the quick handball in a tight area. Following that the group nearest me were doing my favourite drill to watch. i.e. quick handball and tackling in the 30m x 10m area with one team attempting to get from one end to the other in a really tight area while the other group attempted to stop them with solid tackling. Great to watch. One thing that was noticeable in the whole session was the level of intensity and enthusiasm from the players had increased markedly from previous weeks. And they were urged on by Justin Leppitsch that they could still do better. There was a practice match involving the majority of players played across the ground from wing to wing with the boundary markers on the 50m lines. There was a lot of good contested footy from all players but the strong wind was playing havoc with a lot of the kicks and also made marking difficult judging the higher kicks. But once again the enthusiasm had lifted. The session was pretty well wrapped up by a bit after 11am with just a few small groups practising some plans and Mason Cox and Darcy Cameron practising some ruck work in the middle of the ground. Cox also joined in the goal kicking practice before leaving the ground.
INS and OUTS?? I would not have a clue. Regular team players were mixed up with both black and white jumpers so there was really nothing to go on there. Billy Frampton was in the black top which makes me think he might come in even if Murphy does play. We will need him especially if Hawkins plays for the Cats. I donāt think Cox will play after a 5 day break but I think he will certainly be given consideration by the selectors. I hope he plays so Frampton can just play full back which is why we recruited him. And Ginnivan was rested quite a bit in the game against Werribee so he could be a possibility to replace Sidebottom.
So after a couple of pretty ordinary games in the last 2 weeks, letās hope the boys can come out fired up against Geelong and get back on the winners list. GO PIES.
