Why wouldn't it be taxed at 50%? Anyway, whilst I believe that Barcelona are unpleasant and slimy enough people to try and push that kind of pay out through, from all reports Fabregas, whilst he would like to go isn't going to force a transfer through that would leave Arsenal at a disadvantage.
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Why wouldn't it be taxed at 50%? Anyway, whilst I believe that Barcelona are unpleasant and slimy enough people to try and push that kind of pay out through, from all reports Fabregas, whilst he would like to go isn't going to force a transfer through that would leave Arsenal at a disadvantage.
You talking about English tax rates or Spanish? Pretty sure BB mentioned that as a Spaniard he'd pay a smaller tax rate than foreign players in the same situation.
Guess we'll see though.
Guess we'll see though.
Tax rates are 50% in the highest bracket in England, which applies to everyone earning over £150,000 there and 43% in the highest bracket in Spain, the Beckham law doesn't apply to Fabregas; he's not a foreigner in Spain and therefore wouldn't be eligible for the 25% tax rate levied on foreign players based there.
Either way if Barcelona wanted to just 'give' him the money to buy out his contract £29 million contract they'd be looking at paying somewhere between £40 million and £43.5 million.
Cant believe we're even discussing this. There is no way he's going to Webster. That's only for truly exceptional, practically once in a lifetime circumstances. This is just Barcelona throwing their toys out of the pram because they cant have what they want. £29 million pound bid, get stuffed. That's barely more than they paid for no-hope Chyrgrinski last year.
It wouldn't surprise me if he did. He is as slimy as the club he wants to go to.
What're you basing that on? Something tangible or just sore that he might want to play somewhere else?
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Oh dear... now I do feel embarrassed.
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2565...regas-examining-legal-options-to-push-through
Can you see where Barca's £29m valuation came from?
We're going to give Cesc the money to buy out his contract. *sigh*
When are you going to realise goal.com is not a credible website?
Who are you going to support next as barca are no longer running a sustainable business model?
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I tend to agree (not on the Barca being slimy bit though
).Although on the field Cesc is a very good leader and driven by the whole "team" thing, if he wants to go he isn't going to stay just because Arsenal can't get a good deal.
If he is 110% on moving back to Barca and screwing Arsenal over was the only way of doing it (I'm sure he'd rather the get compensated as we all would) but if it was the difference between him going and staying I still think he'd leave.
By all reports, Spanish and English, he is absolutely desperate to get out. Who knows what he'll try to do. I mean think about it, he accepted your recent upgraded contract to backdate his pay to the tune of £3m and only a few months later he's requesting a transfer? Who on earth would do that? A captain as well.
As for Chygrynsky, yeah well that was an overpriced purchase as was Caceres. Who knows what will happen to him. Was cup-tied as well last season to Shaktar which drew further criticism.
Where is he? I haven't heard from him since he broke his leg. Yet apparently our captain wants to go to Barca. He is acting like a weak dog.
I tend to agree (not on the Barca being slimy bit though
Although on the field Cesc is a very good leader and driven by the whole "team" thing, if he wants to go he isn't going to stay just because Arsenal can't get a good deal.
If he is 110% on moving back to Barca and screwing Arsenal over was the only way of doing it (I'm sure he'd rather the get compensated as we all would) but if it was the difference between him going and staying I still think he'd leave.
Arsenal arnt being unfair in their valuation, Barcelona are severely low-balling on price in the hope that Fabregas kicks up a fuss and agitates for a move and they can get him on the cheap. Which isn't happening, because from what I've heard/read Fabregas would like to go to Barcelona but would only go if the move can get done without his input, which means Barcelona meeting Arsenals valuation.
It's too close to the world cup for anything to get done I reckon now anyway. Ideally Fabregas has an awful world cup and Xabi has a great one and this can be put to bed for another year or two. Or Fabregas has a great one and Barcelona pony up the mega bucks.
All I hope is that RvP doesnt explode.
By all reports which completely exclude any quotes from the player and relevant parties involved? The only time we hear anything is when another Barcelona official/player/source close to Fabregas who claim to know his inner most desires comes out and blatantly tries to tap him up or Barcelona submit a jokingly low bid for him. I mean come on, the story you linked before said he was "worried" or something. Give me a break, how is that a viable source which indicates anything, let alone write 1000 words on? He was probably spotted ordering lunch or something and looking perplexed because he couldn't decide on the chicken or the fish. STOP THE PRESSES FABREGAS OUT.
If he wants to go then he'll get his wish, as far as I can tell there's nothing that isnt press speculation to indicate either way.
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Just a query.
Are all the Arsenal fans on BigFooty happy for the club to force Cesc to stay at the Gunners even if he doesn't want to?
I know it's very different to do hypotheticals rather than actually being in the position but in all honesty if Xavi or Iniesta or Messi wanted to leave I wouldn't begrudge the club for selling them I don't think.
Sure, I'd be filthy that they wanted out but surely they'd cause a great deal of unrest if they were forced to stay against their will?
Apparently we are looking at Arjen Robben as well. As good as he is I don't think he fits into our structure. Don't like him playing on the left wing like he did at Madrid, much prefer him playing the identical role to Messi. Would be a waste of his time and ours if we bought him.
I call bullshit on the rumour anyway.
Are all the Arsenal fans on BigFooty happy for the club to force Cesc to stay at the Gunners even if he doesn't want to?
I know it's very different to do hypotheticals rather than actually being in the position but in all honesty if Xavi or Iniesta or Messi wanted to leave I wouldn't begrudge the club for selling them I don't think.
Sure, I'd be filthy that they wanted out but surely they'd cause a great deal of unrest if they were forced to stay against their will?
Apparently we are looking at Arjen Robben as well. As good as he is I don't think he fits into our structure. Don't like him playing on the left wing like he did at Madrid, much prefer him playing the identical role to Messi. Would be a waste of his time and ours if we bought him.
I call bullshit on the rumour anyway.
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The way I see it, cesc is effectively in the same position as Ryan Okeefe last year. He wants to move back home but if a deal can't get done he is happy to stay.
Not really an answer.
He's in training for the world cup, I'd probably refuse to do media too if i knew that every interview I'd be hounded by El Mundo reporters, who are essentially tapping you up for Barcelona.
The club itself has released a statement refusing the bid, why does Fabregas himself need to waste time and hot air holding a press conference to announce anything. If anything that'd just be more fuel for the fire.
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As I just said I think he is happy to stay but would like to leave at the same time. So I don't think we are forcing him nor will it cause great unrest. Cesc is a profesional and I think as soon as he comes back to arsenal with his team mates he will forget about moving.
If he did want out I still wouldn't sell to you scum for under 60m anyway.
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He came out like a week ago and said he spoke with wenger and that wenger said concentrate on the WC and he will sort everything out. I'm guessing the conversation involved cesc saying he wants out unless he is guranteed some good signings.
Who are you? Sepp "modern slavery" Blatter?
Relevant parties?
I'd say the player HIMSELF would be a relevant party, who continues to throw curve balls by saying (and I quote) "my future is Wenger's hands".
Are you expecting Cesc to come out with a belated April Fools joke are you?
His father would be the next most relevant source...
http://football.uk.reuters.com/leagues/primera/news/2010/05/25/LDE64O0TC.php
I'm not doubting the bid is too low, but to suggest the saga is a conspiracy because the player himself hasn't got the guts to say it is laughable.
This is just like Ronaldo last year except he actually had the balls to come out and say he wanted to leave. We got a good deal for him so I was happy for him to go off to Madrid.
I'm sure if they're offered enough money Arsenal won't force him to stay.
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The worry for Arsenal fans would be that if Cesc was sold, would they go under another 'rebuilding' phase or will Wenger spend big during the post-WC transfer window where player prices are bound to be inflated, something that doesn't fit his profile.
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Someone finally mentioned this, I can't believe the amount of crying from the Arsenal fans, sometimes you just got to accept a player wants to leave and move on and deal with it.
Does it suck? Of course it does. Can it actually do more damage to your club if the saga gets messy? Definitely.
I'm only worried that Arsenal continues to be a development club rather than a club the world class players want to play for.
The Emirates pretty much guarantees a financial future so money shouldn't be an issue once the debt is payed off.
The Emirates pretty much guarantees a financial future so money shouldn't be an issue once the debt is payed off.
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You don't get it do you?
-Cesc is captain of the club
-Still signed for 5 years
-Barca are offering 29m
Can you see the difference? It's easy to sit their and say we are complaining when you recieved fair value for a world class player.
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Yep that is why Wenger is trying to get deals done before the WC. Chamakah is done and hopefully we can get Joe Cole. We still need 2 CB's and a goalie which is the real problem.
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