Transgender - Part 2

[Gethelred]

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[Johnny Bananas]

Ah, no, what's hilarious is how gullible some of the commenters in this thread are. Everyone is not conceived xx female.

Everyone is conceived without a penis or testicles though.

 

[kranky al]

I was fascinated by this, so looked it up. At conception the embryo is chromosomal male XY. It's not until week 6 that male gonads are developed through the SRY gene expression. So at conception, male embryo is XY, not XX female.

Ah, no, what's hilarious is how gullible some of the commenters in this thread are. Everyone is not conceived xx female.

You are of course aware that women can be xy as well right?

More: https://novonordiskfonden.dk/en/news/more-women-than-expected-are-genetically-men/


I tend when commenting on a subject like this to simplify something that’s incredibly complex for ease of understanding.

It’s caught me out here but the fact remains:

Phenotypically an embryo does not actually become male until around 6 weeks

 

[PiCkLeJuiCe]

Everyone is conceived without a penis or testicles though.

Yeah, but that's inferring that absence of penis or testicles makes you female.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

Yeah, but that's inferring that absence of penis or testicles makes you female.

The sort of people Trump is appealing to do claim this.

 

[Gough]

The sort of people Trump is appealing to do claim this.

The DEFINE A WOMEN!!!!!! crowd are struggling for answers at the moment.

 

[kranky al]

Yeah, but that's inferring that absence of penis or testicles makes you female.

You can be conceived xy and become a woman.

You don’t become a male until around 6 weeks when mumsy hits you up with a burst of hormones that make you develop into what you are going to be.

Be that male, female or some combination of the two.

 

[PiCkLeJuiCe]

You can be conceived xy and become a woman.

You don’t become a male until around 6 weeks when mumsy hits you up with a burst of hormones that make you develop into what you are going to be.

Be that male, female or some combination of the two.

I don't think you become female until 6 weeks either. I'm no expert, so happy to be corrected, but a quick read says that the gonadal ridge starts to develop at week 6 and develops into testes for males and ovaries for females.

So embryos are essentially sexless until week 6. With the exception of disorders and genetic mutations, XY karyotypes will develop male sex glands and XX will develop female glands.

PS, I'm happy to move this discussion to a science thread as I know the point of the transgender thread is more important than a purely biology question.