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Fair enough.
Bangkok Ed
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I'm never surprised by Wikipedia, but I was less surprised this time than usual.
Here is the last par in TV's entry:
"In August 2007, Varcoe caused controversy after concerns were raised about the racial and sexual content featured on his MySpace page.[3] The site promoted the theme of black supremacy and contained several images of topless women in suggestive poses. The Geelong Football Club acted swiftly, removing the content immediately after it came to its attention.[3]"
Blogs on the page, which remained online until yesterday, featured racially charged humour as well as soft pornography. The page, under Varcoe's moniker "black-flash", had an underlying theme of black superiority.
"White friends are for a while. Black friends are for life," said one blog.
Another boasted: "White friends will leave you behind if that's what the crowd is doing.
"Black friends will kick the whole crowd's ass that left you."
The passive voice.
"Caused controversy". With whom?
"Concerns were raised". By whom?
Probably the bloke on the bar stool outside the News Ltd offices.
Soft pornography/suggestive poses. Hello honky mass media since the late 60s! References are to News Corp, which retailed the Varcoe story like a tray of smelly old fish. Enormously hypocritical considering the Huns' WAG drool. Probably about as dire as the offense as the blokes on Big Footy who choose to represent themselves with avatars of big-boobed women in team colored-bikinis. I'm old (42), so I don't understand you whippersnappers. Why do men who like football represent themselves as root-ably suggestive sheilas? But thanks for photos. As stimulating as the Hun's WAG awards (well, almost. Those chicks are like -- phwooooar!)
Black Supremacy.The problem with Equal Opps people like the "unnamed spokeswoman" of the Vic Equal Opps Commission is that a) they can't put their names to things they say, like anonymous blatherings about "moving on", and b) dumb equalizing statements about "supremacy". S/he is hardly Bob Dylan.
What is "white supremacy"? Probably anything you can say to footy fans even after Norway is going to get you banned or defined as a troll. Still, here goes. Back in Perth in the late 80s, the Australian Nationalists Movement ran on a campaign of "Asians Out or Racial War." They were really successful. Furthermore, they were a feature at every West Perth game. Our best player was "Captain Courageous", Les Fong, AKA "You fuc&*()$) Asian c*&^t." About the same time, I was in the same school dorm room as Chris Lewis (Eags), and still remember him kicking 16 goals in a game as a rebuttal to the total hosing he received every day that he went out and dominated all those di-ckheads who called him a coon in the Private School Association.
TV sounds in this story like a very young kid who has just listened to Gil Heron for the first time. But if he listened to Gil Heron every day for the rest of his life, I would totally understand it.
Could some bright young spark replace the dirt on TV with something more positive. If I were him, and I read that (betcha he has), I would be a bit depressed.
Braboys, use your skills!
Here is the last par in TV's entry:
"In August 2007, Varcoe caused controversy after concerns were raised about the racial and sexual content featured on his MySpace page.[3] The site promoted the theme of black supremacy and contained several images of topless women in suggestive poses. The Geelong Football Club acted swiftly, removing the content immediately after it came to its attention.[3]"
Blogs on the page, which remained online until yesterday, featured racially charged humour as well as soft pornography. The page, under Varcoe's moniker "black-flash", had an underlying theme of black superiority.
"White friends are for a while. Black friends are for life," said one blog.
Another boasted: "White friends will leave you behind if that's what the crowd is doing.
"Black friends will kick the whole crowd's ass that left you."
The passive voice.
"Caused controversy". With whom?
"Concerns were raised". By whom?
Probably the bloke on the bar stool outside the News Ltd offices.
Soft pornography/suggestive poses. Hello honky mass media since the late 60s! References are to News Corp, which retailed the Varcoe story like a tray of smelly old fish. Enormously hypocritical considering the Huns' WAG drool. Probably about as dire as the offense as the blokes on Big Footy who choose to represent themselves with avatars of big-boobed women in team colored-bikinis. I'm old (42), so I don't understand you whippersnappers. Why do men who like football represent themselves as root-ably suggestive sheilas? But thanks for photos. As stimulating as the Hun's WAG awards (well, almost. Those chicks are like -- phwooooar!)
Black Supremacy.The problem with Equal Opps people like the "unnamed spokeswoman" of the Vic Equal Opps Commission is that a) they can't put their names to things they say, like anonymous blatherings about "moving on", and b) dumb equalizing statements about "supremacy". S/he is hardly Bob Dylan.
What is "white supremacy"? Probably anything you can say to footy fans even after Norway is going to get you banned or defined as a troll. Still, here goes. Back in Perth in the late 80s, the Australian Nationalists Movement ran on a campaign of "Asians Out or Racial War." They were really successful. Furthermore, they were a feature at every West Perth game. Our best player was "Captain Courageous", Les Fong, AKA "You fuc&*()$) Asian c*&^t." About the same time, I was in the same school dorm room as Chris Lewis (Eags), and still remember him kicking 16 goals in a game as a rebuttal to the total hosing he received every day that he went out and dominated all those di-ckheads who called him a coon in the Private School Association.
TV sounds in this story like a very young kid who has just listened to Gil Heron for the first time. But if he listened to Gil Heron every day for the rest of his life, I would totally understand it.
Could some bright young spark replace the dirt on TV with something more positive. If I were him, and I read that (betcha he has), I would be a bit depressed.
Braboys, use your skills!
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I just had to join in. I don't live on the BF board as some seem to do (and thanks for the entertainment and insights - I'm not knocking anyone) but is this the biggest thread ever?
I for one thought he should have been dropped several weeks back and now think he is running into top form at the right part of the season. Pity about Byrnes - hope he makes it back in time to be considered for finals.
and I started it
...not sure whether majority of views and criticism has been for the better or worse to be honest. I guess the amount of pressure this man feels is indication to the popularity the thread has generated.
Time to bump the Varcoe thread.
Travis was excellent today (who wasn't). It was great to see him break the lines and use his speed. Some good defensive work and 2nd/3rd efforts. Maybe he's doing a 'Mackie' and ramping his form up for the end of the season.
Welcome back to our best half dozen.
Travis was excellent today (who wasn't). It was great to see him break the lines and use his speed. Some good defensive work and 2nd/3rd efforts. Maybe he's doing a 'Mackie' and ramping his form up for the end of the season.
Welcome back to our best half dozen.
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Steady on,he isn't in our best half dozen at the moment.Not sure he'd be in our best dozen at the moment.He was good today.
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steady on you say
and you were one of those that predicted doom pre-seasonVarcoe ceratinly is in our best 22 but we got too many champions amongst the top 10 it will be hard for him to nudge any around unless he really begins to turn it on which some of us in here know he will do
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Like in our two losses against the Pies last year when he was close to best on for us?
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steady on you say
Not sure why you have a bug up your butt today with me but provide proof that I predicted doom in the pre-season.
meto
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Amongst the fall out, let's not forget my boy, Mitch Duncan, 27 possessions and 3 goals, not to shabby heh!
Let's just say, the boy's coming on!
Glad to see Trav is stepping up, think it's partly due to the big body of Tom Hawkins as the extra tall forward, Pods back next week with Moons as Sub or on the bench.
3 goals isn't bad, well done Trav!
Let's just say, the boy's coming on!
Glad to see Trav is stepping up, think it's partly due to the big body of Tom Hawkins as the extra tall forward, Pods back next week with Moons as Sub or on the bench.
3 goals isn't bad, well done Trav!
hopefully he's getting some confidence from the last couple of weeks, but i fail to be convinced by a couple of good games against richmond and melbourne.
his test comes in the sydney and collingwood games at the end of the year
his test comes in the sydney and collingwood games at the end of the year
Second the motion of trav playing better due to a stronger big body presence in the forward line. That is our best structure and puts players like Trav, Stokes in there rightful roles and eliminates the need for these players to start launching at marks etc....
Trav plays his best footy when he emphasises defensive pressure and is not afraid to run and break lines....coming together at the right time.
Trav plays his best footy when he emphasises defensive pressure and is not afraid to run and break lines....coming together at the right time.
PatrickBateman
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PatrickBateman
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He was good today but I'm afraid the bottom line for Varcoe will only be concluded post Finals. He hasn't shown enough against quality opposition to warrant even a par grade as yet in 2011. We really won't be tested again until round 24(that could be a fizzer anyway). I worry about him when teams play high pressure / intense footy against us(West Coast / Essendon of late). I have noticed him being more physical in the last 2 weeks(since his deplorable West Coast effort). Hopefully that improves further.
Time will tell. His finishing is right up there with the best in the team, I want to see it when we're under the pump though.
Vdubs
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top 6 today and last week
PatrickBateman
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Against Richmond and Melbourne? His other recent credible effort against Adelaide at Skilled? Hardly worth mentioning if you're going to make a case for his 2011 season.
We all know he's a great finisher. Against the best you don't get all the chances he's had in recent weeks, you need to create them for yourself and compete(especially against Pies). Of course, if you'd prefer to judge players against the worst teams in the competition rather than the best? Sure, go ahead.
Trav needs to show up against a hard press team like the Pies , play well against them and he is really start to 'become'
can anyone who was at the game comment where varcoe played in the second half. I thought he was off the back flank and made some piercing runs through the middle aka Monica.
May well be a spot for him running out as i thought he foot skills were awesome with some stunning delivery lace out
May well be a spot for him running out as i thought he foot skills were awesome with some stunning delivery lace out
David the Cat
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Still producing quality posts David... keep up the good work.
Thanks....you ought to try it sometime
This is reaching from the memory a bit - but Trav played some pretty good footy last year against the Pie? Think that Rnd 19 game was a big one and i think he was also one of our better in the preliminary final loss? Don't quote me on it though.
However, yes, Trav needs to show consistency regardless of opponent. He is certainly capable and his looked very good against Melbourne and Adelaide - but that has to translate on the big stage. Finals is the test for the whole team!
jimmy.h
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He largely just wandered around doing whatever he wanted. Melbourne had well and truly given up on the idea of playing on their opponents so it didn't really make much difference what position our players were playing.
I do recall Varoce spending some time down back (as did both Corey and Duncan) but I'd still guess he played predominately on the HFF.
Both he and Duncan pushed forward off half-back but this was possible just an indication of the complete absence of pressure from a single Melbourne player than a specific tactic.
meto
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When the team performs strongly he does his bit, 2-3 goals is the expectation for a quality forward, this week he did the job effectively.
It will get harder though for all of them, Scottie's just got to decide on his A team with a plan B if things don't work, at this stage Travis is in for his finishing skills.
Thankfully the forwardline is now functioning, just needs to be tuned for the finals.
It will get harder though for all of them, Scottie's just got to decide on his A team with a plan B if things don't work, at this stage Travis is in for his finishing skills.
Thankfully the forwardline is now functioning, just needs to be tuned for the finals.
Gaz its sort of the way I remember it , that his pace made him look one of our better players but is influence against softish teams is way out of balance compared to what he brings in hard tight games. The run he showed of the half backline in the last would be awesome if he could do that to the Pies , hitting up players. Put Pods in that side yesterday and his timing of leads and I suspect he would have tried to hit targets a bit more rather than the long bomb.
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