U 16 Championships VIC country / Metro Teams

[forgetaboutit]

The above post is spot on. As i said on a thread a few weeks back with the u/18 teams - these teams are not the be all and end all. Kids still get drafted without making these teams. Only 25 kids can get picked. Dou you really want to be at you peak as a 15/16 year old kid - I don't think so. As forgetaboutit said "they don't draft 16 year olds".

As for overthetops comments on Cachia "i think he has the body, skills and attack on the ball to be a great ruck/rover" - great player (by what I read on these threads) I have only seen play a couple of times and I must admit I was a bit disappointed in his performance in the last trial. He obviously hits the weights a lot which would explain his slow place. I don't think he would ever be quick enough for a ruck/rover. This kids development will be interesting to watch over the next couple of years - but is he at his peak too early???

Cachia has good pace & endurance but is probably not the quickest over the 20m.

As for the last trial match he was in the best for vic metro i believe. Playing in the back half and doing what he does best. He will deninately be in the final cut.

The point i was trying to make was that he may need to alter his game if he doesn't grow any further.

 

[over the top]

massive call saying they are overrated gimps, i believe watts has the biggest potential in Australia, as for walsh probably a fair assesment though he does have an outstanding mark, and no way castricum for ruck, big tom hill had that in the big a long time ago.

i rekon tom hill will play at CHF, i dont think he'll start in the ruck. possibly a relief ruckmen but i dint think he'll b put on the team sheet as the starting ruckmen.

as for watts' assessment, it may be a little harsh but i think its fair. i think if the other teams have a gd CHB or can match him well, jack watts will be found out i rekon. im not expecting a big carnival from him.

 

[over the top]

Ditto Jack Watts has huge potential plays basketball so afl are keen to get him over to the right side and can play footy . Walsh will develop he's a big strong lad so he will make it and get better as he sheds his puppy fat .

walsh? develop? bahh, i think he's hit his peak. however he seems to have put a lot of effort in the pre-season and has shed some of that "puppy-fat" so he mite just go alrite actually

 

[Big Echuca]

who will the KPPs be?
i heard oakley and tiller are suppose to be the gun CHB and CHFs, what do people reckon?

mm, oakley is certain to play either CHF or CHB too good of a player to play anywhere else except on ball maybe. but size will probably have him KP, not too sure about tiller though...he will probably play forward line but yeah not sure.

 

[Hunch]

mm, oakley is certain to play either CHF or CHB too good of a player to play anywhere else except on ball maybe. but size will probably have him KP, not too sure about tiller though...he will probably play forward line but yeah not sure.

heres where i believe a few of the country boys will line up

Rucks Butcher, zanella if he makes it( bench ) lowden if he makes it tho very light but seems the coach likes him .

Onballers : take your pick priest gavin knott pianto hooper (he'll go everywhere depending on if good side or not ) giampolo christensen

forwards Cunnington Peters tiller curran ziebell at times christensen parish thompson

centres / Wings : Sidebottom hooper priest k geary mckenzie page bartlett
backs: Ziebell (they'll play him everywhere off a half back flank mainly chf onball)ellis oackley tuttton geary pianto will play a bit there to

others i've missed dont know enough about not that they'd miss out

 

[motorvinnie]

Joel Broardhurst another massive performance 7 goals on the wekend from CHB in Narre Warren seniors! has to be looked at sooner then later. Ill keep you updated onhis performances

 

[suspect1]

heres where i believe a few of the country boys will line up

Rucks Butcher, zanella if he makes it( bench ) lowden if he makes it tho very light but seems the coach likes him .

Onballers : take your pick priest gavin knott pianto hooper (he'll go everywhere depending on if good side or not ) giampolo christensen

forwards Cunnington Peters tiller curran ziebell at times christensen parish thompson

centres / Wings : Sidebottom hooper priest k geary mckenzie page bartlett
backs: Ziebell (they'll play him everywhere off a half back flank mainly chf onball)ellis oakley tuttton geary pianto will play a bit there to

others i've missed dont know enough about not that they'd miss out

i believe manon johnston was a bit hard done by he had a terrific game compared to a few of them but i suppose it gets down to hieght and country have a lot of good little blokes. oakley and ellis are going to cop a lot down back so i can see ziebell having to play down there a lot even tho he is a great forward. Country tend to struggle at this age level so given this group that won the championships at u15 level plus a few inclusions so it will be interesting how they go when the teams are settled.
Metro's a and b sides were more even than country's at the last trial so this trial on wed will be a good indicator of how the sides are shaping with metro having a better balance of good players on the same ground together. Jack Watts inclusion will be a plus and looks like cachia might miss a trial or to with a hand injury but when he goes back in it will be very interesting. jake carr looked very strong in backline the first game and he or witkowski will be a handful for a country chf probably to strong for tiller so maybe tutton ziebell or even ellis could play there. anyway more on wed

 

[buzz1234]

Is Daniel Talia in the Vic Metro Squad? If so where do you rekon he will play and what are ur thoughts about him?

 

[over the top]

how can a 16 year old 197cm tall kid be at his peak now? you are kidding arent you? what do you base this on?

his body will for sure. he's gonna b a beast of a guy. i just rekon that they'll try and turn him into a ruckmen, and he's a natural FF with an eye for the goals. i dunno how theyll develop him as a player but i hope that they stik him at FF and he kiks 5 goals a game for metro and gets drafted.

 

[WatchOut]

I hope these selectors watched yesterday u/18 game and don't make the same mistake. As Kevin Sheehan said the team lacked pace.

IMO the game is changing and we need more of the smaller, faster, running player - WA proved their pace yesterday and Vic Countries little fast players showed us during the last trial game.

In the testing this team have done, the top 5 20m sprinters all went under 2.88 - these are the kids we need in this team.


Can anyone in the know out there give an update on the injured. I don't wish to name the kids (don't want to upset their chances of making the team) but if you are in the know, you will know who I am talking about.
The squad currently have a recovering broken collarbone, a broken finger and a bad hamstring injury (this kid still can't train or play so you can imagine his fitness level).

In your opinion do you think the selectors will name the injured or should they be named as an emergency.

 

[Footynut08]

I hope these selectors watched yesterday u/18 game and don't make the same mistake. As Kevin Sheehan said the team lacked pace.

IMO the game is changing and we need more of the smaller, faster, running player - WA proved their pace yesterday and Vic Countries little fast players showed us during the last trial game.

In the testing this team have done, the top 5 20m sprinters all went under 2.88 - these are the kids we need in this team.


Can anyone in the know out there give an update on the injured. I don't wish to name the kids (don't want to upset their chances of making the team) but if you are in the know, you will know who I am talking about.
The squad currently have a recovering broken collarbone, a broken finger and a bad hamstring injury (this kid still can't train or play so you can imagine his fitness level).

In your opinion do you think the selectors will name the injured or should they be named as an emergency.

So your obviously talking bout Watts and Cachia. Im not to sure who the hamstring injury is? however of course they should still be named. Players of that calibre are too good not to pick.. Cachia has only done a finger, it doesnt stop him from running or doing any fitness based things. So he should be fine come carnival time..

 

[forgetaboutit]

Can anyone in the know out there give an update on the injured. I don't wish to name the kids (don't want to upset their chances of making the team) but if you are in the know, you will know who I am talking about.
The squad currently have a recovering broken collarbone, a broken finger and a bad hamstring injury (this kid still can't train or play so you can imagine his fitness level).

In your opinion do you think the selectors will name the injured or should they be named as an emergency.[/quote]

I think i know the kids (note personally) that you are talking about for vic metro.

These injured kids will be in the 25. The selectors have big raps on them and the word is that they have already been told they are in the side.

If pace is the concern for VM then they really need to re-think about the make up of the side.

The grounds that they will play on in Queensland will be excellent and condusive of the running game.

Now that the squad is nearing finalization, the boys can all play and they should perhaps consider quick mids/smalls to take up the balance of positions ie, wings, BP, FP, Flanks, not all positions but one in each.

You still need a couple of talls on each line.

The game on Wednesday will give VM an indication on how many running smalls they will need to be competitive.

Remember that this game will be played in conditions that will be slow (wet) and VM talls may stuggle due to the conditions.

The conditions at the carnival should be better, but if VM don't address the pace concern VC are likley to run all over them.

If VM talls can't cut it in the pace department, then they will never cut it!

Lets get real and look at the way the game is played now, the average height is reducing, the game is about running and skill, not stop start marking and kicking.

 

[WatchOut]

These injured kids will be in the 25. The selectors have big raps on them and the word is that they have already been told they are in the side.

Yeah I had heard these rumours too. That would explain one kids attitude towards training this week. His body language read "I don't have to train - I'm already in". That sucks - why waste everybodys time and kids get their hopes hope when some kids have already been told (one was even told before the last trial game).

 

[forgetaboutit]

These injured kids will be in the 25. The selectors have big raps on them and the word is that they have already been told they are in the side.

Yeah I had heard these rumours too. That would explain one kids attitude towards training this week. His body language read "I don't have to train - I'm already in". That sucks - why waste everybodys time and kids get their hopes hope when some kids have already been told (one was even told before the last trial game).

Thats the way it is at this 16's level, there is still a lot of politics and heresay' involved.

Selectors have only a couple of games to judge playes at this level and would perhaps go with "who you know, not what you know" as the saying goes.

Does'nt happen as much as 15's schoolboys but by the time they get to 18's this should generally be erradicated.

 

[Footynut08]

How many quick players do metro even have... who are they..

 

[forgetaboutit]

How many quick players do metro even have... who are they..

Not in any particular order, Melksham, Lucin, Pasmans, Woods, Hood, Simcoe, Sheils, Rayner, Scully, Blease, correct me if i'm wrong.

 

[Coach]

Well while we're on the topic can anyone name they country quicks that will have an impact??? And is the final list named after this weeks practice match?

 

[WatchOut]

Well while we're on the topic can anyone name they country quicks that will have an impact??? And is the final list named after this weeks practice match?[/quote]

Yeah, straight after the match on Wednesday - VM that is - don't no about VC.

 

[its game on]

Well while we're on the topic can anyone name they country quicks that will have an impact??? And is the final list named after this weeks practice match?[/quote]

Yeah, straight after the match on Wednesday - VM that is - don't no about VC.

After the game all the country boys will overnight in St Kilda, also the game is being DVD'd.

The country selectors in addition to looking at the game live, will also have a further look at the DVD.

They will let the boys know sometime on Thurs who continues and who's out.

I don't know if this will be the final list.

 

[Hunch]

Not in any particular order, Melksham, Lucin, Pasmans, Woods, Hood, Simcoe, Sheils, Rayner, Scully, Blease, correct me if i'm wrong.

Thats ten I think thats plenty with a good balance in real small and taller quicks.Dont forget the afl want big tall quick blokes. when you look at an afl side hawthorn for instance they have buddy frankin 6'6" boyle rough head etc these are big blokes that are super quick . You have to have big blokes. There will always be a room for the smaller quicks in any team but unfortunatly there arent that many big quicks so they are trying to fast track the bigger boys through these systems. I think we all have to remember that these trials are more about development than winning and that is something metro have lacked so credit to them for taking players who they think the system wants

 

[Hunch]

Well while we're on the topic can anyone name they country quicks that will have an impact??? And is the final list named after this weeks practice match?

best of country quicks will be :
sidebottom, hooper,priest,bartlett, geary boys,christensen,knott.
The coaches wont take to many smaller blokes with them due to last year when they took a very small side away and couldnt compete as they were smashed in the air all over the ground . They will err on the side of caution and make sure they have a better balance on every line.

 

[over the top]

any1 wanna give a possible line-up of the 2 sides, or just one. whatevs

cheers

 

[Zackman]

Well while we're on the topic can anyone name they country quicks that will have an impact??? And is the final list named after this weeks practice match?

pianto who was the quickest over 20m in training, should get a go through midfield and can go forward and kick few goals. Very quick and strong

 

[Marto121]

Does anyone have a match report best players? All I know is that there were 2 3/4 games and in the first match vic metro won in a close won and in the second game vic country thumped vic metro.

 

[its game on]

Country squad of 38 for games vs Metro 4/7/07 as per published flyer available at ground in no particular order just regional groupings.

Geelong: L Rounds, C Bartlett, D Gavin, L Thompson, D Tutton, B Cunnington, M Darmody, A Christensen, J Hussey, T Mc Kenzie

Murray: S Sidebottom, L Lowden, C Tiller, J Ziebell, A Jacka, F Priest, M Pianto

Nth Ballarat: C Giampaola, P Knott, B Peters, D Parish, C Curran, A Hooper,

Bendigo: R Ellis, S Page, K Geary, M Gilmore, J Geary, P Craig

Gippsland: J Butcher, R Lehman, M Ross, J Carson, N Vardy, J Black, K Stevens

Injured or unavailable: S Oakley (Bendigo), N Sing (Gippsland)

Hope that clears a few things up!