Diaz will always be my home boy.. even with his antics... He needs to acquire a decent coach.. it's bullshit
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UFC 183 - Anderson Silva v Nick Diaz
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I'm sick of hearing in nicks corner "you're winning" even when he is clearly down 1-3..
Just putting it out there... Diaz is no joke .. to say Anderson is finished because he couldn't finish Diaz is ludicrous.. Diaz would give Weideman a run.
Condit was viewed as a killer and Diaz made him run.. Fighters unfortunately, for Nick, have started to fight with a strategy..
The most disappointing thing is that Diaz doesn't attempt to use his Jitsu.. His pride forces him to go toe to toe with the best strikers even though he has one of the most dangerous ground games..
He will always be my homie.. but time goes on his talent/heart is being wasted.
It's clear they send the 209 fighters in there with no game plan ..
It's clear they send the 209 fighters in there with no game plan ..
Like i've said... Surely u jest.
Diaz would take it to Weidman in every category..He just didn't have the speed vs Anderson..
Either one of those two will knock that average champ off his perch
He's not the MMA GOAT imo (see my av for that) and arguably not even the UFC GOAT, GSP would have claims to that and so would Jones now.
As for his next fight Bisping really makes more sense than a title shot, and it would probably be a pick-em fight.
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Weidman average? Ha. He is an exceptional fighter. He beats Diaz anywhere.
The problem is he wants to bang...and that's it. If you want that **** off to boxing. He was shit in his first UFC stint and he's shit now. In his mind he's never lost so he's never felt the need to improve his game (stuck in the stockton bubble). He's been "screwed by every judge because they don't like his attitude...or whatever"
"I'll only fight for big matches or for title fights"...the nerve.
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Agreed, i think GSP and Jones are more relevant in the those discussions. I'd really like to see the GSP vs Anderson super fight. After yesterdays performance GSP would be licking his lips. I don't think Anderson should be in running for a title.
He'll have to ask his son though..."he cry, he say Dad no more fight" x 1000
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His last 2 fights before yesterday.
GSP v Anderson would be a good one to do at the moment. I know GSP would be coming back after a layoff but I'd put the house on him to win that one.
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definitely. I think GSP would definitely test Anderson's jujitsu because he'd be on his back for parts of it. Imagine the money it'd make both of them!
1,2,5 vs Condit.. Even experts agree. However the fight was too close to call and still Diaz's corner was saying to him they had it in the bag... Nick needs to use his JJ
Otherwise his career is done sadly.
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He does but he has no take down ability. Its as though he's trained in boxing and jujitsu off of his back and that's it.
The good thing for him is he's a good match up against Lombard, Brown and Lawler. They all want to trade and so does Nick
Nick should re-enter the title races in either WW or MW - there are some great matches to be had.
Anderson... Why did you sign a 10 fight contract extension again? was it your ego? He looked overwhelmingly vanilla yesterday. A GSP fight would have the same long periods of inactivity if they fought. Both would look to counterstrike and refuse to throw first.
Anderson... Why did you sign a 10 fight contract extension again? was it your ego? He looked overwhelmingly vanilla yesterday. A GSP fight would have the same long periods of inactivity if they fought. Both would look to counterstrike and refuse to throw first.
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Thoroughly enjoyed the main event. It was weird (as you'd expect for a Silva/Diaz fight), but the fight was decent and closer than you'd expect when there's 50-45 scorecards handed in. Can't remember the rounds but I thought Diaz won 1 of them and another was really close. There were 2 clear Silva rounds and the other three rounds were at least pretty close. Probably the only time I'll ever say this, that first round would have been even better if Anderson taunted back. I loved the Diaz antics early on.
I posted here how I knew what Diaz would do, but it turns out that I didn't. He wasn't as forward moving and aggressive with his striking as I expected, which was a smart thing. Anderson would probably have KO'd him if he came forward and threw everything he had. Instead, Diaz was trying to make Anderson lead, which is really smart. The interesting thing is that Anderson led quite well, which isn't something he usually does well.
Anderson not finishing Diaz doesn't mean much to me in determining whether he is what he once was. Diaz has been finished once and that was when he was a teenager. What showed me that Anderson isn't anywhere near his best is his clinch work. It's crazy that Diaz got the better of him in the clinch striking exchanges.
I posted here how I knew what Diaz would do, but it turns out that I didn't. He wasn't as forward moving and aggressive with his striking as I expected, which was a smart thing. Anderson would probably have KO'd him if he came forward and threw everything he had. Instead, Diaz was trying to make Anderson lead, which is really smart. The interesting thing is that Anderson led quite well, which isn't something he usually does well.
Anderson not finishing Diaz doesn't mean much to me in determining whether he is what he once was. Diaz has been finished once and that was when he was a teenager. What showed me that Anderson isn't anywhere near his best is his clinch work. It's crazy that Diaz got the better of him in the clinch striking exchanges.
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To be clear on this im not saying Anderson is finished or a chump etc. Im saying that he isn't a top 5 middleweight anymore. He will obviously gain alot of confidence from this fight but in the year he has been away the division has grown in legitimacy and is now one of the deepest in the UFC. Weidman has beaten him twice and i see no reason to think he wouldn't win a third fight with the spider. Jacare is a killer, his jits and aggresive and powerful striking would stitch Silva up, same with Rockhold (plus Rockhold is just a monster in terms of size at middleweight) same with Machida. Belfort is the only one im not sure about cause of the TRT. Silva still has fights left in him but the days of watching him bully and beat up on everyone are over.
^ I agree with most of that. I think Anderson could lose to most or all of the other top 5 at MW. I definitely don't want to see him facing Weidman again any time soon. I would really hate to see Belfort beat him. If Belfort gets the title they'll be putting that fight together asap. That is if Anderson decides to fight again. I wouldn't mind seeing him retire now.
I've seen this thrown around, a fight with Bisping sounds good to me. Doesn't Bisping's eye still look not quite right though? I don't want to see him fight anyone, especially someone who could bust up his face badly like Anderson, if he's risking permanent damage to his eye. I'm not sure if he is but if he is, it would be good for him to retire.
I've seen this thrown around, a fight with Bisping sounds good to me. Doesn't Bisping's eye still look not quite right though? I don't want to see him fight anyone, especially someone who could bust up his face badly like Anderson, if he's risking permanent damage to his eye. I'm not sure if he is but if he is, it would be good for him to retire.
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You think Weidman is a chump?
Give it a couple more years and Weidman will be in the discussion of the best P4P fighter in the world
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Disagree. GSP throws first with his constant jab (don't throw you end up like Koscheck). God I'd love to see this happen...
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Given his record that would be perhaps 1 more fight, given its a 'couple of years' he may have a second fight.
Not sure that would put him in the p4p category. Like the guy but as it stand he'll be in the 'if they ever consistently fought' p4p deliberations. He along with Aldo, Pettis, Cain fit that too.
Lawler is creating a new category: 'I win the title then stop fighting' p4p.
Diaz is the 'I won but got robbed by the judges' p4p champ. Currently undefeated.
