Ventured out there last night feel dumber for the experience
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You know my thoughts
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You can watch the game and see the intervention from the stands via the earpieces , it’s not even subtle , the only way to change is boycott the games , then they can get the cardboard cutout crowds back from civil, less crowds less advertising dollar , the AFL us the MOST corrupt sporting body in the world
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I’m surprised he didn’t cop a ban
The statistics are just getting too compelling for anyone to ignore now.
I mean AFL #18 #18 #17 #18 for frees paid against Richmond's opponents in the last 4 seasons.
And AFL #1 #1 #7 #1 for frees paid against Richmond in those seasons.
24 of the last 26 free kick counts lost outright by a combined margin of 142 free kicks, and 2 free kick counts won in that period by a combined margin of 2 free kicks.
27 games have been played since Richmond won a free kick count by more than 1 free kick. No games have been played since Richmond last LOST a free kick count by 10 or more. God knows how many games have elapsed since Richmond ever won a free kick count by 10 or more.
You try to watch the games with a balanced outlook all I mostly see is both teams infringing at roughly the same rate and one of them being penalised at a much higher rate.
These statistics are absolutely crazy, there is no plausible way that can happen organically without some agent creating bias in the system.
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I actually thought we were slightly favoured by the umps for the first half again (like last week), before regularly scheduled programming recommenced in the second half.
The reaming commenced in the second term and the cadence, circumference and lack of viscosity intensified from there.
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Only had to look at Adelaide's 4th and 5th goals within a minute of each to get them 7 points in front.
Strauchan paid a mark that about two others also touched.
Vlastuin pinged for in the back on Murphy when Murphy dived and Vlastuin played it perfectly.
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stats will never show the non decisions - which is the ultimate cover up! how do you fight non calls if theres no statistical back-up?! apparently we're all deranged fans who should just shut up because we've had our time in the sun!!
The stats do indeed show the non decisions barra.
That is why we are AFL #18 #18 #17 #18 for free kicks received in the last 4 seasons.
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We have won 3 flags and the CFL are done with us.
Desperate for a Pies back to back.
Desperate for a Pies back to back.
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there really isn't because rules like holding the ball, in the back, sling tackle and deliberate out of bounds are ruled differently every single week.
these decisions require an umpire to rule based on their biased opinion on what a players intent or what they feel in there head how a rule is interpreted and then they get told week to week which rules they are going to focus on week in week out! the whole free kick situation is so malleable that exposes them to definite corruption.
only last week we are now being told umpires are being coached live during the games via headsets?? they probably have all the bookies sitting next to them as they're delivering their messages!!
but yes the fact that we are sitting 18th on the free kick ladder is probably a little factual evidence lol
Agree with those.
Only offset I reckon was Cumbo's first from a free kick that was very soft.
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We need to build a list 5+ goals better than the 2nd best team if we want to win another flag
Can’t think of another team in the world facing anything like that
Can’t think of another team in the world facing anything like that
Big notice last night (again)was the lack of replays and commentary on a few contests where the crows ended up with the ball and ran it out our forward line. You can just see our player on the ground or with their arms up afterwards.
I would probably do a Cumberland also
I would probably do a Cumberland also
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I honestly thought it was there.
However we got a goal when Kozi tapped the ball in the middle which constituted a clear throw.
I'm not personally big on the underhand tap being called a throw, it's no different to any other tap. If you don't have possession, you should be allowed to hard tap it in any direction. If you scoop it, sure, throw.
So what I'm saying is I think it should be fine that Kosi wasn't pinged.
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I saw it as more of a tap. The ball was in his hand longer than a tap.
And I thought he scooped it.
I actually thought a few times the commentary was on our side a bit, bewildered by some of the non-calls, like a few very very clear holding the balls not called, and a few high hits going unpaid. We really do get shafted, saying it's "beyond a joke" makes me feel so unsatisfied, there needs to be a fiercer way to say that, but either way, I'm sick of watching us get flipping reamed every week.
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The free against Vlastuin for a push in the back last night was a disgrace. They also conveniently missed a pretty clear free to Baker in the goal square late in the game which would’ve iced it for us.
Those two frees were a joke - Borlase free kick 40M dead in front for God know what, and then the Schoenburg "push in the back" that should have been paid "incorrect disposal". Add the Murphy dive that would have made Dangerfield proud and then you have more goals from frees at that point.
Last night I couldn't watch, I was putting my son to sleep and he generally falls asleep pretty late, so the game was over and when I checked my phone and saw we'd won, I was stoked and of course I stayed up to watch the replay.
When you're watching a replay of a game in that calm, happy state, cause you know you've won, and in a half-asleep semi-stupor cause it's after midnight, and you're STILL getting frustrated by umpiring decisions, you just know that something is wrong.
I saw a tally of 4 v 5 frees just before I put my phone away when the game was live, couldn't believe we were winning the count. It was then 23 to 12 after that for a final tally of 27-17, and as we always say it's the ones we DON'T get.
We had multiple guys get their heads ripped off in our forward 50, we had holding the ball moments that would have been called for any other team BEFORE this new quicker interpretation. It's so darn frustrating.
When you're watching a replay of a game in that calm, happy state, cause you know you've won, and in a half-asleep semi-stupor cause it's after midnight, and you're STILL getting frustrated by umpiring decisions, you just know that something is wrong.
I saw a tally of 4 v 5 frees just before I put my phone away when the game was live, couldn't believe we were winning the count. It was then 23 to 12 after that for a final tally of 27-17, and as we always say it's the ones we DON'T get.
We had multiple guys get their heads ripped off in our forward 50, we had holding the ball moments that would have been called for any other team BEFORE this new quicker interpretation. It's so darn frustrating.
That's a terrible indictment of the game when scoring goals is decided by the Umpire's intrusion rather than player contests!
It's become a real 'Nanny State' of corporate intrusion...rather than a free enterprise game of contest!
There's a theory, set out in Anson Cameron's book on Neil Balme, that all this anti Richmond bias can be sheeted home squarely to Balme himself. And Cameron was told this by Dimma during the course of researching material for the book.
At the start of each season, the umpires come to every Club to give the players and coaches an overview of what to expect of the coming year. It's all sweetness and light with courtesy and politeness all round. There's plunger coffee and donuts and then Hayden Kennedy steps up to deliver his address. To everyone's surprise, Balme, who had only recently returned to Richmond, gets to his feet and tears into the umpires, berating them for their incompetence and accusing them of being the cause of the horrendous current state of the game. He tore into them for about 20 minutes and the umpires just sat there shell shocked. And ever since Richmond have been last in free kicks.
At the start of each season, the umpires come to every Club to give the players and coaches an overview of what to expect of the coming year. It's all sweetness and light with courtesy and politeness all round. There's plunger coffee and donuts and then Hayden Kennedy steps up to deliver his address. To everyone's surprise, Balme, who had only recently returned to Richmond, gets to his feet and tears into the umpires, berating them for their incompetence and accusing them of being the cause of the horrendous current state of the game. He tore into them for about 20 minutes and the umpires just sat there shell shocked. And ever since Richmond have been last in free kicks.
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