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Janus said:
The impact of losing Scott Lycett - an analysis.

In Lycett's first four games:

vs Brisbane 55 inside 50s to 52, 26 hitouts to 52, 12 centre clearances to 11, 28 stoppage clearances to 31
vs Hawthorn 58 inside 50s to 46, 29 hitouts to 53, 18 centre clearances to 8, 36 stoppage clearances to 22
vs Adelaide 48 inside 50s to 43, 33 hitouts to 46, 10 centre clearances to 13, 30 stoppage clearances to 27
vs Melbourne 48 inside 50s to 55, 27 hitouts to 41, 10 centre clearances to 8, 20 stoppage clearances to 31

TOTAL: 52.25 to 49 (+3.25 inside 50s), 28.75 to 48 (-19.25 hitouts), 12.5 to 10 (+2.5 centre clearances), 28.5 to 27.75 (+0.75 stoppage clearances) per game

In Hayes' first seven games:

vs Carlton 47 inside 50s to 50, 24 hitouts to 38, 11 centre clearances to 17, 22 stoppage clearances to 21
vs West Coast 65 inside 50s to 34, 54 hitouts to 28, 16 centre clearances to 5, 29 stoppage clearances to 28
vs St Kilda 56 inside 50s to 61, 12 hitouts to 37, 5 centre clearances to 8, 23 stoppage clearances to 24
vs Bulldogs 44 inside 50s to 49, 40 hitouts to 21, 9 centre clearances to 13, 21 stoppage clearances to 21
vs North Melbourne 61 inside 50s to 43, 39 hitouts to 31, 15 centre clearances to 9, 30 stoppage clearances to 24
vs Geelong 43 inside 50s to 57, 40 hitouts to 36, 9 centre clearances to 10, 26 stoppage clearances to 36
vs Essendon 42 inside 50s to 50, 30 hitouts to 38, 4 centre clearances to 14, 30 stoppage clearances to 22

TOTAL: 51.14 to 49.14 (+2 inside 50s), 34.14 to 32.71 (+1.43 hitouts), 9.86 to 10.86 (-1 centre clearances), 25.86 to 25.14 (+0.72 stoppage clearances) per game

In other words - we were 1.25 inside 50s, 3.5 centre clearances and 0.03 stoppage clearances better off with Lycett in the side over Hayes, in spite of him generating 20.68 more hitouts.

Now the remaining 11 games with Finlayson/Dixon as ruck:

vs Richmond 48 inside 50s to 64, 18 hitouts to 41, 13 centre clearances to 9, 25 stoppage clearances to 22
vs Sydney 46 inside 50s to 46, 28 hitouts to 32, 13 centre clearances to 10, 30 stoppage clearances to 22
vs Gold Coast 55 inside 50s to 54, 21 hitouts to 43, 16 centre clearances to 13, 27 stoppage clearances to 29
vs Fremantle 51 inside 50s to 50, 22 hitouts to 51, 10 centre clearances to 19, 20 stoppage clearances to 28
vs GWS 65 inside 50s to 37, 27 hitouts to 35, 9 centre clearances to 8, 28 stoppage clearances to 18
vs Melbourne 55 inside 50s to 49, 17 hitouts to 32, 13 centre clearances to 11, 27 stoppage clearances to 16
vs Geelong 59 inside 50s to 49, 19 hitouts to 47, 16 centre clearances to 12, 20 stoppage clearances to 26
vs Collingwood 52 inside 50s to 55, 17 hitouts to 46, 12 centre clearances to 15, 32 stoppage clearances to 21
vs Richmond 44 inside 50s to 62, 31 hitouts to 52, 9 centre clearances to 13, 30 stoppage clearances to 32
vs Essendon 61 inside 50s to 47, 9 hitouts to 50, 15 centre clearances to 18, 13 stoppage clearances to 19
vs Adelaide 61 inside 50s to 48, 23 hitouts to 59, 12 centre clearances to 13, 33 stoppage clearances to 27

TOTAL: 54.27 to 51 (+3.27 inside 50s), 21.09 to 44.36 (-23.27 hitouts), 12.55 to 12.82 (-0.27 centre clearances), 25.91 to 23.64 (+2.27 stoppage clearances) per game

In conclusion - the coaches of Port Adelaide know more about football than this pissant board. QED.
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Anyone can interpret statistics as they please or use statistics to prove their own narrative, not every statistic is relevant or should be used as a direct comparison.

Hinkley has a greater win percentage than Damien Hardwick, there's a useless statistic for you as a direct comparison.
 
The Impact of Losing Scott Lycett - An Analysis

Lycett's first four games: 0 wins, 4 losses

Hayes' first seven games: 5 wins, 2 losses
 

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Winganeen said:
Given our condition for entry was one new colour that did not exist in the AFL, our third colour should have been pink, not teal, as per the 1877 - 1883 design.

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Looking at Palermo and Juventus merch, we'd be in a better spot.
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You massively over estimate our supporter base.
 
Janus said:
The impact of losing Scott Lycett - an analysis.

In Lycett's first four games:

vs Brisbane 55 inside 50s to 52, 26 hitouts to 52, 12 centre clearances to 11, 28 stoppage clearances to 31
vs Hawthorn 58 inside 50s to 46, 29 hitouts to 53, 18 centre clearances to 8, 36 stoppage clearances to 22
vs Adelaide 48 inside 50s to 43, 33 hitouts to 46, 10 centre clearances to 13, 30 stoppage clearances to 27
vs Melbourne 48 inside 50s to 55, 27 hitouts to 41, 10 centre clearances to 8, 20 stoppage clearances to 31

TOTAL: 52.25 to 49 (+3.25 inside 50s), 28.75 to 48 (-19.25 hitouts), 12.5 to 10 (+2.5 centre clearances), 28.5 to 27.75 (+0.75 stoppage clearances) per game

In Hayes' first seven games:

vs Carlton 47 inside 50s to 50, 24 hitouts to 38, 11 centre clearances to 17, 22 stoppage clearances to 21
vs West Coast 65 inside 50s to 34, 54 hitouts to 28, 16 centre clearances to 5, 29 stoppage clearances to 28
vs St Kilda 56 inside 50s to 61, 12 hitouts to 37, 5 centre clearances to 8, 23 stoppage clearances to 24
vs Bulldogs 44 inside 50s to 49, 40 hitouts to 21, 9 centre clearances to 13, 21 stoppage clearances to 21
vs North Melbourne 61 inside 50s to 43, 39 hitouts to 31, 15 centre clearances to 9, 30 stoppage clearances to 24
vs Geelong 43 inside 50s to 57, 40 hitouts to 36, 9 centre clearances to 10, 26 stoppage clearances to 36
vs Essendon 42 inside 50s to 50, 30 hitouts to 38, 4 centre clearances to 14, 30 stoppage clearances to 22

TOTAL: 51.14 to 49.14 (+2 inside 50s), 34.14 to 32.71 (+1.43 hitouts), 9.86 to 10.86 (-1 centre clearances), 25.86 to 25.14 (+0.72 stoppage clearances) per game

In other words - we were 1.25 inside 50s, 3.5 centre clearances and 0.03 stoppage clearances better off with Lycett in the side over Hayes, in spite of him generating 20.68 more hitouts.

Now the remaining 11 games with Finlayson/Dixon as ruck:

vs Richmond 48 inside 50s to 64, 18 hitouts to 41, 13 centre clearances to 9, 25 stoppage clearances to 22
vs Sydney 46 inside 50s to 46, 28 hitouts to 32, 13 centre clearances to 10, 30 stoppage clearances to 22
vs Gold Coast 55 inside 50s to 54, 21 hitouts to 43, 16 centre clearances to 13, 27 stoppage clearances to 29
vs Fremantle 51 inside 50s to 50, 22 hitouts to 51, 10 centre clearances to 19, 20 stoppage clearances to 28
vs GWS 65 inside 50s to 37, 27 hitouts to 35, 9 centre clearances to 8, 28 stoppage clearances to 18
vs Melbourne 55 inside 50s to 49, 17 hitouts to 32, 13 centre clearances to 11, 27 stoppage clearances to 16
vs Geelong 59 inside 50s to 49, 19 hitouts to 47, 16 centre clearances to 12, 20 stoppage clearances to 26
vs Collingwood 52 inside 50s to 55, 17 hitouts to 46, 12 centre clearances to 15, 32 stoppage clearances to 21
vs Richmond 44 inside 50s to 62, 31 hitouts to 52, 9 centre clearances to 13, 30 stoppage clearances to 32
vs Essendon 61 inside 50s to 47, 9 hitouts to 50, 15 centre clearances to 18, 13 stoppage clearances to 19
vs Adelaide 61 inside 50s to 48, 23 hitouts to 59, 12 centre clearances to 13, 33 stoppage clearances to 27

TOTAL: 54.27 to 51 (+3.27 inside 50s), 21.09 to 44.36 (-23.27 hitouts), 12.55 to 12.82 (-0.27 centre clearances), 25.91 to 23.64 (+2.27 stoppage clearances) per game

In conclusion - the coaches of Port Adelaide know more about football than this pissant board. QED.
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Considering the experience level of Hayes v the other 2 groups I don't know whether the stats really support your argument!

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Cam1870 said:
I wish people would stop piling on about a 10 game 21 yo in Jed McEntee who as far as I can see gives 100%. Stop making him the punchline to the joke that Ken can't or won't develop talls. It ain't his fault. Support him.
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He did well in his last couple AFL games, but his SANFL form all year stunk.
 

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RossFC said:
He did well in his last couple AFL games, but his SANFL form all year stunk.
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I'm not saying he's the answer. I'm not saying he should be playing instead of Hayes. I strongly suspect his career will be more Sam Gray than Shai Bolton. I just get frustrated with how supporter groups agree to find one punching bag (ken aside) and pile on. Unless he's coming to preseason overweight and shirking contests, I'll get behind whoever wears the guernsey. Last couple of games were easy wins but there's something there to work with
 
The impact of having Scott Lycett

2020 Preliminary Final centre clearances

Port Adelaide 4
Richmond 11

And those 4 were shallow garbage.

We had to start every score launch from defence, unable to take advantage of the 6-6-6 rule against the best transition defensive side in the league, and scored just 40 points from 58 inside 50s, losing by a goal.

We can either develop an elite talent ruckman or we can keep wondering why our stoppage work is unreliable in big games.
 
El_Scorcho said:
The impact of having Scott Lycett

2020 Preliminary Final centre clearances

Port Adelaide 4
Richmond 11

And those 4 were shallow garbage.

We had to start every score launch from defence, unable to take advantage of the 6-6-6 rule against the best transition defensive side in the league, and scored just 40 points from 58 inside 50s, losing by a goal.

We can either develop an elite talent ruckman or we can keep wondering why our stoppage work is unreliable in big games.
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5 to 0 centre clearances in Richmond's dominant last quarter too. Nank 6 hitouts to advantage that quarter to Lycett's 0.
 
Schulzenfest said:
5 to 0 centre clearances in Richmond's dominant last quarter too. Nank 6 hitouts to advantage that quarter to Lycett's 0.
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Of all the many poor traits Hinkley has as a coach (dislike of talls, HBF’ers are us, etc), I think the one that shits me the most is him continuing backing in players that have repeatedly failed him in big games. I get coaches can keep selecting players no longer up to it, that have delivered for them in the past, but Lycett (as the example here), has repeatedly failed us in big games. He hasn’t earned the right to a gold pass.
 
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edgie said:
A lot of players delivered that night. Lycett didn't, or maybe he did to his capacity. The fact that no coach or on field leader done anything about Nanks dominating in the last quarter lost the game.
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Yep, and here we are, 2 years on.

We've tried 2 ruckmen in that time. One we traded away, the other we unceremoniously dropped and left in the SANFL while a KPF pinch hit for half a season.

We still know nothing about what we're doing with our ruck division. We've got a bunch of untried maybes, an old ruckman who is inconsistent with a mid level ceiling, and an elite tap ruckman who is apparently out of favour.

This is like the 2014-19 KPF situation all over again. Ruining our structure and developing nobody by playing players out of position to fill a hole instead of doing the hard work of fostering development.
 
Janus said:
The impact of losing Scott Lycett - an analysis.

In Lycett's first four games:

vs Brisbane 55 inside 50s to 52, 26 hitouts to 52, 12 centre clearances to 11, 28 stoppage clearances to 31
vs Hawthorn 58 inside 50s to 46, 29 hitouts to 53, 18 centre clearances to 8, 36 stoppage clearances to 22
vs Adelaide 48 inside 50s to 43, 33 hitouts to 46, 10 centre clearances to 13, 30 stoppage clearances to 27
vs Melbourne 48 inside 50s to 55, 27 hitouts to 41, 10 centre clearances to 8, 20 stoppage clearances to 31

TOTAL: 52.25 to 49 (+3.25 inside 50s), 28.75 to 48 (-19.25 hitouts), 12.5 to 10 (+2.5 centre clearances), 28.5 to 27.75 (+0.75 stoppage clearances) per game

In Hayes' first seven games:

vs Carlton 47 inside 50s to 50, 24 hitouts to 38, 11 centre clearances to 17, 22 stoppage clearances to 21
vs West Coast 65 inside 50s to 34, 54 hitouts to 28, 16 centre clearances to 5, 29 stoppage clearances to 28
vs St Kilda 56 inside 50s to 61, 12 hitouts to 37, 5 centre clearances to 8, 23 stoppage clearances to 24
vs Bulldogs 44 inside 50s to 49, 40 hitouts to 21, 9 centre clearances to 13, 21 stoppage clearances to 21
vs North Melbourne 61 inside 50s to 43, 39 hitouts to 31, 15 centre clearances to 9, 30 stoppage clearances to 24
vs Geelong 43 inside 50s to 57, 40 hitouts to 36, 9 centre clearances to 10, 26 stoppage clearances to 36
vs Essendon 42 inside 50s to 50, 30 hitouts to 38, 4 centre clearances to 14, 30 stoppage clearances to 22

TOTAL: 51.14 to 49.14 (+2 inside 50s), 34.14 to 32.71 (+1.43 hitouts), 9.86 to 10.86 (-1 centre clearances), 25.86 to 25.14 (+0.72 stoppage clearances) per game

In other words - we were 1.25 inside 50s, 3.5 centre clearances and 0.03 stoppage clearances better off with Lycett in the side over Hayes, in spite of him generating 20.68 more hitouts.

Now the remaining 11 games with Finlayson/Dixon as ruck:

vs Richmond 48 inside 50s to 64, 18 hitouts to 41, 13 centre clearances to 9, 25 stoppage clearances to 22
vs Sydney 46 inside 50s to 46, 28 hitouts to 32, 13 centre clearances to 10, 30 stoppage clearances to 22
vs Gold Coast 55 inside 50s to 54, 21 hitouts to 43, 16 centre clearances to 13, 27 stoppage clearances to 29
vs Fremantle 51 inside 50s to 50, 22 hitouts to 51, 10 centre clearances to 19, 20 stoppage clearances to 28
vs GWS 65 inside 50s to 37, 27 hitouts to 35, 9 centre clearances to 8, 28 stoppage clearances to 18
vs Melbourne 55 inside 50s to 49, 17 hitouts to 32, 13 centre clearances to 11, 27 stoppage clearances to 16
vs Geelong 59 inside 50s to 49, 19 hitouts to 47, 16 centre clearances to 12, 20 stoppage clearances to 26
vs Collingwood 52 inside 50s to 55, 17 hitouts to 46, 12 centre clearances to 15, 32 stoppage clearances to 21
vs Richmond 44 inside 50s to 62, 31 hitouts to 52, 9 centre clearances to 13, 30 stoppage clearances to 32
vs Essendon 61 inside 50s to 47, 9 hitouts to 50, 15 centre clearances to 18, 13 stoppage clearances to 19
vs Adelaide 61 inside 50s to 48, 23 hitouts to 59, 12 centre clearances to 13, 33 stoppage clearances to 27

TOTAL: 54.27 to 51 (+3.27 inside 50s), 21.09 to 44.36 (-23.27 hitouts), 12.55 to 12.82 (-0.27 centre clearances), 25.91 to 23.64 (+2.27 stoppage clearances) per game

In conclusion - the coaches of Port Adelaide know more about football than this pissant board. QED.
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If you’re going to post something that long winded and boring, at least jazz up the title like:

Harry Potter and the Impact of Losing Scott Lycett.

You might trick a few people into getting through a paragraph or two first.


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Janus said:
The impact of losing Scott Lycett - an analysis.

In Lycett's first four games:

vs Brisbane 55 inside 50s to 52, 26 hitouts to 52, 12 centre clearances to 11, 28 stoppage clearances to 31
vs Hawthorn 58 inside 50s to 46, 29 hitouts to 53, 18 centre clearances to 8, 36 stoppage clearances to 22
vs Adelaide 48 inside 50s to 43, 33 hitouts to 46, 10 centre clearances to 13, 30 stoppage clearances to 27
vs Melbourne 48 inside 50s to 55, 27 hitouts to 41, 10 centre clearances to 8, 20 stoppage clearances to 31

TOTAL: 52.25 to 49 (+3.25 inside 50s), 28.75 to 48 (-19.25 hitouts), 12.5 to 10 (+2.5 centre clearances), 28.5 to 27.75 (+0.75 stoppage clearances) per game

In Hayes' first seven games:

vs Carlton 47 inside 50s to 50, 24 hitouts to 38, 11 centre clearances to 17, 22 stoppage clearances to 21
vs West Coast 65 inside 50s to 34, 54 hitouts to 28, 16 centre clearances to 5, 29 stoppage clearances to 28
vs St Kilda 56 inside 50s to 61, 12 hitouts to 37, 5 centre clearances to 8, 23 stoppage clearances to 24
vs Bulldogs 44 inside 50s to 49, 40 hitouts to 21, 9 centre clearances to 13, 21 stoppage clearances to 21
vs North Melbourne 61 inside 50s to 43, 39 hitouts to 31, 15 centre clearances to 9, 30 stoppage clearances to 24
vs Geelong 43 inside 50s to 57, 40 hitouts to 36, 9 centre clearances to 10, 26 stoppage clearances to 36
vs Essendon 42 inside 50s to 50, 30 hitouts to 38, 4 centre clearances to 14, 30 stoppage clearances to 22

TOTAL: 51.14 to 49.14 (+2 inside 50s), 34.14 to 32.71 (+1.43 hitouts), 9.86 to 10.86 (-1 centre clearances), 25.86 to 25.14 (+0.72 stoppage clearances) per game

In other words - we were 1.25 inside 50s, 3.5 centre clearances and 0.03 stoppage clearances better off with Lycett in the side over Hayes, in spite of him generating 20.68 more hitouts.

Now the remaining 11 games with Finlayson/Dixon as ruck:

vs Richmond 48 inside 50s to 64, 18 hitouts to 41, 13 centre clearances to 9, 25 stoppage clearances to 22
vs Sydney 46 inside 50s to 46, 28 hitouts to 32, 13 centre clearances to 10, 30 stoppage clearances to 22
vs Gold Coast 55 inside 50s to 54, 21 hitouts to 43, 16 centre clearances to 13, 27 stoppage clearances to 29
vs Fremantle 51 inside 50s to 50, 22 hitouts to 51, 10 centre clearances to 19, 20 stoppage clearances to 28
vs GWS 65 inside 50s to 37, 27 hitouts to 35, 9 centre clearances to 8, 28 stoppage clearances to 18
vs Melbourne 55 inside 50s to 49, 17 hitouts to 32, 13 centre clearances to 11, 27 stoppage clearances to 16
vs Geelong 59 inside 50s to 49, 19 hitouts to 47, 16 centre clearances to 12, 20 stoppage clearances to 26
vs Collingwood 52 inside 50s to 55, 17 hitouts to 46, 12 centre clearances to 15, 32 stoppage clearances to 21
vs Richmond 44 inside 50s to 62, 31 hitouts to 52, 9 centre clearances to 13, 30 stoppage clearances to 32
vs Essendon 61 inside 50s to 47, 9 hitouts to 50, 15 centre clearances to 18, 13 stoppage clearances to 19
vs Adelaide 61 inside 50s to 48, 23 hitouts to 59, 12 centre clearances to 13, 33 stoppage clearances to 27

TOTAL: 54.27 to 51 (+3.27 inside 50s), 21.09 to 44.36 (-23.27 hitouts), 12.55 to 12.82 (-0.27 centre clearances), 25.91 to 23.64 (+2.27 stoppage clearances) per game

In conclusion - the coaches of Port Adelaide know more about football than this pissant board. QED.
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How about this for a stat? Pre-Round 21 when our season effectively ended, here's our winning percentages for the year:

Games won with Hayes in the side: 71%
Games won without Hayes in the side: 23%

Imagine going to all that effort to try to prove a point, when the opposite and more accurate point can be proven in a couple of sentences.
 
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Schulzenfest said:
How about this for a stat? Pre-Round 21 when our season effectively ended, here's our winning percentages for the year:

Games won with Hayes in the side: 71%
Games won without Hayes in the side: 23%

Imagine going to all that effort to try to prove a point, when the opposite and more accurate point can be proven in a couple of sentences.
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