US Election 2020: President Elect Biden and VP Elect Harris

[Chief]

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US Election 2020: President Biden and VP Harris - The Aftermath

Now we have most of the main players confirmed its time to start the thread on this Pence I assume will be Trumps VP - but I will leave the ? until confirmed https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20210120T09&p0=900&msg=Inauguration+2021&font=sanserif

www.bigfooty.com

 

[Taylor]

Clinton and Obama both cut spending overall.

I'd love to read more about this.

 

[CrowBloke]

I agree with all of your very good post, except this:

That's the sign of someone going senile.

I know the reference to senility is wrt the claims about Biden, but you're being far too kind.
Consider this:
" Follow the facts to the obvious and true conclusion. If all the facts show that Donald Trump is a malignant narcissist with these powerful sadistic tendencies, this omnipotent destructiveness, where he's getting pleasure and a sense of power from dominating people and degrading people and destroying people and plundering people and laying waste to people, both psychologically and physically, then to deny such obvious facts is willful ignorance. "
(https://www.salon.com/2020/04/25/ps...-sadist-who-is-actively-engaging-in-sabotage/)
Let's call Trump what he is --- a dangerous, raving, narcissistic, megalomaniacal madman, whose supporters wallow in their willful ignorance (and his).

 

[Saint]

All true. that's CEO thinking.

Also he will want to continue to be the voice for the modern, aspirational, multi racial working class party he has created out of the GOP in just 4 years.

My guess he won't tolerate Joe and Co messing with his economy, pulling down his wall or resurrecting the Iran deal.

Hahahahaha, Nothing says Modern, Aspirational and Multi-racial like the slogan Make America Great Again then 4 years of white nationalist agenda.

 

[Financialpanther]

Holy mackerel, is Trump set to win Arizona?

Quite possible - though the only Holy Mackerel is Kenneth Copeland.

 

[Satan]

Well SOMEONE'S angling to be wife #4...........................

Hopes ahead

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Holy mackerel, is Trump set to win Arizona?

Here, i found some evidence for Rudy, can you forward it on?

Armed Virginia Men Thought ‘Fake Ballots’ Were Being Counted in Philly: Prosecutors

QAnon fan Antonio Lamotta and “Vets for Trump” founder Joshua Macias are being held on $750,000 bail each.

www.thedailybeast.com

 

[Saint]

I'd love to read more about this.

You can easily google it. Find a chart which shows spending by year by President with the Trump years included. You won't mistakenly say that Conservatives slash spending ever again.

United States Government Spending

Government Spending in the United States increased to 3934 USD Billion in the second quarter of 2024 from 3904.30 USD Billion in the first quarter of 2024. This page provides the latest reported value for - United States Government Spending - plus previous releases, historical high and low...

tradingeconomics.com

 

[GuruJane]

What's he going to do about it, complain about everything on Parler?

Would think he would be backed by the DOW on each of those issues I nominated.

 

[Ned_Flanders]

Thanks for that Ned, it's good seeing the batch breakdowns (on an alleged basis anyway, pending how many votes for Biden are from dead people or other fraudulent sources).

The dead people is a myth, that website highlighted a data entry error, BUT it still could not have allowed someone to illegally vote.

Also the trucks with boxes of ballots from the DNC, they were media trucks with their camera equipment.

I'll make the best with you, account bet that there will not be 350,000 PA votes invalidated as you Trumpians are claiming

 

[blackcat]

Not absurd. He's contesting the results of an election that he lost. Make no mistake, on a personal level this is galling to him and challenges the entire edifice of his narcissism. This projection sounds absurd but where we are at is already absurd.

not if he got didled in PA MI AZ, he came in as a bull in the China shop, I would see him as callow and milquetoast not to expend all efforts and avenues at his disposal , you seem to think he should go the respectability and distinguished route , I see that as callow and gutless , hybrids hanged your stripes now ? I unlike others are not binary n my thinking , I can dislike him , but equally seven DNC candidates as similarly flawed , and that is not whataboutism , I put forward Bernie and Bloomberg as a paradoxical ticket I would prefer if given a ballot , I think what the boorish buffoon in the spray tan has exposed , is actually fascistic impulses on the left , as much as this thread threw out hollow smears of Godwin , I interpreted a dangerous groupthink hysteria akin to Antifa and I think that is dangerous and holds fascistic kernels

 

[Taylor]

You won't mistakenly say that Conservatives slash spending ever again.

I don't think I've said it yet.

I did say that in a democracy I don't think anyone will be able to.

 

[CrowBloke]

Doctor Colossus , I said something humorous? I was totally serious.
Trump and his supporters laugh at their opponents as if that constitutes rational discussion or counter-argument.

Instead of just laughing at a pov, why don't you state your case? Please.

 

[Present Not Past]

Holy mackerel, is Trump set to win Arizona?

Trump has to get more votes first. That's how elections are won legally.

 

[blackcat]

I agree it's absurd, but it's very possible, which is the problem.

Look at the Fourth Estate who have ramped up the hysteria

 

[pantskyle]

Doctor Colossus , I said something humorous? I was totally serious.
Trump and his supporters laugh at their opponents as if that constitutes rational discussion or counter-argument.

Instead of just laughing at a pov, why don't you state your case? Please.

I found your description of Trump humourous and I agree with it.

 

[Gough]

Would think he would be backed by the DOW on each of those issues I nominated.

He's shot his load with this rigged election crap. Look at the way Fox cut away from Kay Kay this morning, people aren't taking what he says seriously any more. I'd imagine most of the focus of the Executive arm would now be devoted to reigning in Trump's worst instincts for the next eleven weeks.

 

[Ned_Flanders]

Holy mackerel, is Trump set to win Arizona?

Unlikely. Most of the remaining votes are Maricopa, and he's running just below the 60% run rate he needs. It will be very close regardless

 

[Tadpole]

Quite possible - though the only Holy Mackerel is Kenneth Copeland.

Something a bit fishy there.

 

[Present Not Past]

Unlikely. Most of the remaining votes are Maricopa, and he's running just below the 60% run rate he needs. It will be very close regardless

There'll be a recount there for sure.

 

[QuietB]

I think we could have quite a bipartisan discussion about politics on this issue.

I am of the belief that politics is a very old and slow moving institution, it's not handling the instant digital age very well. The public are expecting feedback and involvement from the political machine that matches how the rest of society is functioning, not in a policy sense but in an instant gratification way. We expect to hear from and have access to politicans more than ever, certainly more than they are used to.

They used to be able to fart arse around for weeks and not really get anything done, we didn't pay that much attention. Now they have to be more active and they don't have the material for it so they use people like political tools to avoid any serious structural changes which they know might not be well received by those who fund the whole game.

That is a pretty reasonable assessment.

My gripe is that the conservative side of politics win elections with virtually zero stated policy and get by on culture wars and attack campaigns alone.

The net result of this is that there is no political debate or discussion, just a race to the bottom to obtain power for powers sake.

I had this discussion with someone the other day and I challenged them to name Trump's policy on anything. IMO Trump doesn't have one. He does stuff, his China treatment has pivoted many times, he has sooked endlessly about NATO but has no real stated end game, same with the UN, he has pulled out of the WHO but for what, he doesn't like ANTIFA who as far as I can see are not much more than an idea, he doesn't like socialism but the USA is hardly under attack from socialism, yada yada yada.

There is no coherent policy on anything that I can see - just a bunch of thought bubbles.

How can humanity progress if there is no plan? The private sector can wing it to a degree but the private sector only has an interest in what they can profit from. Who is responsible for everything else? This in my view is the failure of the promise of small government.

 

[Monkey King]

lol - FDA have not approved sh*t

Quarter of a million people dead and rather than rejoice at a potential vaccine, he's plays the victim; always the victim. Smartest man in the room, in the most powerful chair in the world, stable genius, expert on everything, know the best words ... yet always seems to fall victim to some dastardly scheme.

 

[Satan]

The dead people is a myth, that website highlighted a data entry error, BUT it still could not have allowed someone to illegally vote.

Also the trucks with boxes of ballots from the DNC, they were media trucks with their camera equipment.

I'll make the best with you, account bet that there will not be 350,000 PA votes invalidated as you Trumpians are claiming

 

[Father Jack]

He's shot his load with this rigged election crap. Look at the way Fox cut away from Kay Kay this morning, people aren't taking what he says seriously any more. I'd imagine most of the focus of the Executive arm would now be devoted to reigning in Trump's worst instincts for the next eleven weeks.

Not to mention that Kay Kay is a paid federal employee who has no business speaking at a Trump campaign event.

 

[Saint]

I don't think I've said it yet.

I did say that in a democracy I don't think anyone will be able to.

You said:

"Conservatives generally want smaller governments, so I can see how the two are intertwined. "

Conservatives don't want smaller Governments. It's demonstrably and consistently untrue.

 

[darrenmorgan]

FAKE NEWS!!