Autopsy US Election Day Thread - Trump 47th President of the United States

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The race is run, the winner declared!

For further discussion of the election:

USA - 2024 US Presidential Election: Trump vs Harris (pt II)

I will be keen to watch the handover on J6 I think, Will the Bidens attend unlike Trump? Will the crowd be the biggest in history, Will there be a magical Mystery victory tour and rallies like 2016, Will he reduce his golf games and stop heading North in the Summer or home to Fl in the winter...

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For discussion of the incoming president:

Play Nice - 47th President of the United States: Donald Trump - Part 20: Here we go again!

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For discussion of the losing candidate:

USA - Kamala Harris Concedes. God Help America

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Enjoy, all!

 

[OneGreatClub]

I used to see stories from the US about the homeless (often with the suffix 'veterans') and their often massive encampments and astonished than bugger all seems to be done about them. Then I realised that no-one gives a **** and they are just considered the new normal.

I never thought it could happen here - at least to that extent. But walking through the city every second doorway seemed to have a homeless person sleeping in it. I work in Eltham and there are homeless people begging outside the supermarkets (in Eltham!) and down close to home, several homeless people in the carpark of Beaconsfield shopping centre (in bloody Beaconsfield!)

Non government gives a rats about these people. No-one gives a rats about those close to the poverty line, leaving them to fight over the scraps of whatever they offer in regards to indentity and a semblance of things were better before the 'woke' and the immigrants took control.

It is shithouse.

America where Capitalism is the holy grail and anything that helps the poor or less fortunate is labeled Communism.
They are in for a shitload of more pain now, apart from the Oligarchs around Trump.

 

[Osho]

How do you 'boot' out a sitting president? 25th amendment?

They did boot him out!

 

[Romeoh1]

You forgot the most important one.
End wokism. That alone drove up his vote. There is a sick obsession with anything deemed woke like apparently it's such a bad thing to hold people accountable for actions and comments. We want to breed more and more bullies according to the anti woke. Say and do what you like it's freedom of expression and speech they say. If you can't handle it that's your problem. Basically they want to go back 30 years where all this was acceptable. It's pathetic IMO and should never be an election issue. Says more about the person complaining about it.

Yep- baffling isn’t it. Just about behaving decently -can’t have that. Weakies.

 

[MPMonkeys]

He had to walk as he promised to do so in 2020. But he delusionally saw himself as a messiah who was needed to beat trump again. Its all on biden for thinking he was the second coming and refusing to walk as he promised until it was too late.

I think it’s a bit of both. Jill Biden loved the limelight too much to give it up and the Democrats thought they did not have a viable candidate or an excuse to replace him. Stuck between a rock and a hard place.

20/20 hindsight would have seen them leak that Biden was incompus mentus back in 2022 so transition to new leader was more acceptable.

Instead they propped him up and pretended everything was normal.

 

[troybe]

Harris did not outperform Bidens 2020 result in one single county in the whole of America.

That’s insane

Which county?

 

[Magruder]

They did boot him out!

OK so how do you boot out a president 2 years into his term?
25th is the only way.

 

[Seeds]

I used to see stories from the US about the homeless (often with the suffix 'veterans') and their often massive encampments and astonished than bugger all seems to be done about them. Then I realised that no-one gives a **** and they are just considered the new normal.

I never thought it could happen here - at least to that extent. But walking through the city every second doorway seemed to have a homeless person sleeping in it. I work in Eltham and there are homeless people begging outside the supermarkets (in Eltham!) and down close to home, several homeless people in the carpark of Beaconsfield shopping centre (in bloody Beaconsfield!)

Non government gives a rats about these people. No-one gives a rats about those close to the poverty line, leaving them to fight over the scraps of whatever they offer in regards to indentity and a semblance of things were better before the 'woke' and the immigrants took control.

It is shithouse.

Gees i grew up in eltham. And thats before it got gentrified. Are their seriously now lots of homeless people in eltham?

 

[pjcrows]

The fiscal conservatives wouldn't care as all they want is profit margins. The social conservatives though? He'd lose most of the Christian Right

SOURCE: https://www.pewresearch.org/politic...s-groups-and-religiously-unaffiliated-voters/

I doubt they'd care. Trump is hardly a cleanskin.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

i disagree but put that down to opnion.

the fact is trump won everything, including the popular vote.

harris was a shocking choice.

She was a poor candidate but it's irrelevant in that Trump is not a fit choice. No one should be voting for someone that unfit and people should be held accountable for making such a poor choice. But again education is not teaching people to discern that so they just vote on emotions.

 

[OneGreatClub]

It doesn't but this is where education matters. Education systems are not teaching people to critically think and analyse information so they can't see through lies and useless slogans from people like Trump. Education needs to massively improve and has a lot to answer for.

And it won’t happen under Trump and Project 2025 where they want to trash education even further.

 

[Plugger35]

Ironically the 3 best candidates they have in Michelle Obama. AOC and Nancy Pelosi have no intention of becoming President. They take all the media sound bites but can’t do anything with them

All 3 need the boot if Dems want to grow and move on. Too much time is spent on those who won’t put their hand up

Pelosi is 84, she is even older than Biden is now so I can't see her running for President in 4 years when she will be 88

Michelle Obama or Oprah Winfrey are young enough to be the first black female President but they are too smart for it.

 

[MPMonkeys]

In his speech not just a couple of hours ago, he said, and I quote:

“I’ll fix everything. I promise you.”

So that’s the bar he’s set for himself. Think he can reach it Trump supporters?

Only an idiot takes those things literally. Is he going to fix Mrs X from Delaware’s washing machine that keeps leaking?

That’s just unhinged nonsense.

 

[captain blood 17]

lol Trump could be caught shooting someone and the Republicans woulda still had him as their guy.

Well in fairness, the Dems tried to inspire someone to shoot him. After all, who wouldn’t want to kill Hitler?

 

[Magruder]

Gees i grew up in eltham. And thats before it got gentrified. Are their seriously now lots of homeless people in eltham?

Wander along Hampton Street at 4:30ish in the morning. Every third shop doorway.

 

[faible]

He never said any of that. What he has said is far more nuanced and why events like today come as such a surprise to people like you.

When you have no real policy except a verbal stream of consciousness and make thousands of individual comments about what you will or won’t do, it’s pretty easy to pretend he didn’t really say anything in particular you could hold him to.

 

[OneGreatClub]

Only an idiot takes those things literally. Is he going to fix Mrs X from Delaware’s washing machine that keeps leaking?

That’s just unhinged nonsense.

MAGA are unhinged

 

[Pure_Ownage]

And it won’t happen under Trump and Project 2025 where they want to trash education even further.

Bingo-America is going to get far worse before it gets better.

 

[Crankyhawk]

It doesn't but this is where education matters. Education systems are not teaching people to critically think and analyse information so they can't see through lies and useless slogans from people like Trump. Education needs to massively improve and has a lot to answer for.

suspect there will be massive cuts to funding for education beyond elementary school level, with the intent to train youth directly for the jobs they can get if they can't pay for higher education, starting as menial workers to replace the illegal immigrants with teenage labour, and lacking critical analytic skills will soak up what they are told to do.

And yes, these low educated folk will not be involved in any "wprkers revolution". They will be kept dumb and superficially happy with media distraction

f**k that could actually work..

 

[QuietB]

If he puts money into growing the US economy, healthcare and border protection all for it.

lol - 2 weeks

 

[OneGreatClub]

When you have no real policy except a verbal stream of consciousness and make thousands of individual comments about what you will or won’t do, it’s pretty easy to pretend he didn’t really say anything in particular you could hold him to.

They haven’t held him to account up to now so he knows he has Carte Blanche

 

[Pure_Ownage]

suspect there will be massive cuts to funding for education beyond elementary school level, with the intent to train youth directly for the jobs they can get if they can't pay for higher education, starting as menial workers to replace the illegal immigrants with teenage labour, and lacking critical analytic skills will soak up what they are told to do.

And yes, these low educated folk will not be involved in any "wprkers revolution". They will be kept dumb and superficially happy with media distraction

f**k that could actually work..

That's true. Trump loves these types as they are not nuanced enough to look at alternative positions and lap up his crap.

 

[OneGreatClub]

suspect there will be massive cuts to funding for education beyond elementary school level, with the intent to train youth directly for the jobs they can get if they can't pay for higher education, starting as menial workers to replace the illegal immigrants with teenage labour, and lacking critical analytic skills will soak up what they are told to do.

And yes, these low educated folk will not be involved in any "wprkers revolution". They will be kept dumb and superficially happy with media distraction

f**k that could actually work..

And forget about the EPA fixing those lead pipes.

 

[Seeds]

Wander along Hampton Street at 4:30ish in the morning. Every third shop doorway.

Yeek

 

[Saint Shags]

But again education is not teaching people to discern that so they just vote on emotions.

I'd argue that education attempts to. However, the issue is that education to many becomes secondary to the need to make as much money as possible.
If you look at the rates of those who actually begin secondary education and see where that same cohort finishes at the conclusion of the 6 years, some would be quite surprised.

And I'm using the Australian system as the example.

 

[Osho]

OK so how do you boot out a president 2 years into his term?
25th is the only way.

The fact he was "booted" out during his term, after "winning" the primary, demonstrates there are ways and means if the party leaders and funders want it. Just takes the will and imagination.