Game Day US Election Day Thread - Trump v Harris - Nov 6 Aus Time

[Chief]

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[JB1975]

All of your posts have been a strawman don’t pretend to do it now

Where does your outrage start and end? Not once have you mentioned October 7. Why?

Of course the Palestinians are being punished for Hamas no one disagrees with that but you can’t blame the US for their actions what a stupid premise

No Sir, let's keep the argument right where it started: Joe Biden's complicity. You suggested that Joe had no responsibility for Israel's campaign in Gaza.

I pointed out that you're ignorant.

 

[Sir_Loin]

I actually find it intellectually interesting how Trump's corruption that led to the Abraham Accords (and on the way to normalising Israeli/Saudis relations) was ostensibly leading to peace yet was arguably the catalyst for the Hamas attacks.

I think it is very disingenuous, but you could certainly make the case that Trump administration policies was the primary reason the Middle East is where it is now.

Of course that's rubbish because both administrations try to normalise relations in the region. It's just a way to think about how Trump supporters justify his foreign policy.

It was all BS and some sort of feint to try and intimate Iran

Guess what happened

 

[JB1975]

“Rank apologist” my god straight out of some weird arse extremist news channel

Explain to me what a rank apologist
Is

Someone who tries to suggest that the slaughter of tens of thousands of innocent people, including up to 20,000 children, is somehow justified and/or

Someone who seeks to argue that the entity which sponsors such violence is not actually responsible for its commission because they don't give orders on the ground.

You fit both categories quite comfortably at this point, Sir.

 

[Sir_Loin]

No Sir, let's keep the argument right where it started: Joe Biden's complicity. You suggested that Joe had no responsibility for Israel's campaign in Gaza.

I pointed out that you're ignorant.

I didn’t say anything of the sort. You’re arguing the US runs Israel. If they did they wouldn’t be in this spot.

You can’t have it both ways mate. This is what shits me about this argument it’s soooooo dumb

 

[beez]

Is there much else behind the reason optimism outside of the Iowa poll ?

It was foretold...

 

[JB1975]

I didn’t say anything of the sort. You’re arguing the US runs Israel. If they did they wouldn’t be in this spot.

You can’t have it both ways mate. This is what shits me about this argument it’s soooooo dumb

No matey, what's glaringly obvious is that you're out of your depth and trying to convince yourself that the stupidity lies elsewhere.

You know that I didn't argue that Biden 'runs Israel'.

You should leave it at this point.

 

[Blue1980]

Not happening with the current climate with Iran it’s a different situation surely you understand this and I respect your opinion

They’ve kind of allowed it to get it this point by continuing to fund Israel and Bibi wants the war to go on forever as he knows when it’s done, all his past actions will catch up with him.

Should at the very least demand a cease fire in Gaza now.

 

[Sir_Loin]

Someone who tries to suggest that the slaughter of tens of thousands of innocent people, including up to 20,000 children, is somehow justified and/or

Someone who seeks to argue that the entity which sponsors such violence is not actually responsible for its commission because they don't give orders on the ground.

You fit both categories quite comfortably at this point, Sir.

Never said any of that. This entire post is exactly what a strawman is.

Have a think about how you go about it before launching in like this. It’s pretty weak.

 

[Sir_Loin]

No matey, what's glaringly obvious is that you're out of your depth and trying to convince yourself that the stupidity lies elsewhere.

You know that I didn't argue that Biden 'runs Israel'.

You should leave it at this point.

You’re entire point was that the US is responsible for the Gaza genocide.

Don’t back away now big boy

 

[JB1975]

Never said any of that. This entire post is exactly what a strawman is.

Have a think about how you go about it before launching in like this. It’s pretty weak.

Before I leave off (because I'm starting to pity you), did you not have anything to say about these points of US complicity?

And without the complicity of the US, he would find his position untenable. Lucky for him that Joe has offered unstinting support:

• Billions in arms and weapons;
• Unfiltered access to US intelligence;
• Daily diplomatic cover;
• Unwavering advocacy in the UN;
• Aggressive efforts to at least discredit and more accurately intimidate the ICJ;
• Constant political pressure on State authorities to clamp down on pro-Palestine protests;
• Attempts to shut down public debate through the adoption of IHRA definition of antisemitism.

Another unfunny f***ing clown.

 

[Blue1980]

In the other thread pjcrows asked everyone to provide their predictions

I re-paste them below

Ok folks. Let's hear those predictions 1 day out.

Tally:
Harris 8
Trump 4

pjcrows
Trump 281
Harris 257

GreyCrow
Harris 270
Trump 268

Financialpanther
Trump 281
Harris 257

FireKrakouer
Harris 289
Trump 252

happy_eagle
Harris 276
Trump 262

Maggie5
Harris 273
Trump 265

Blue1980
Harris 297
Trump 241

campbell
Harris 286
Trump 251

ReidBetweenTheLines
Trump 312
Harris 226

blackshadow
Harris 281
Trump 257

10571z
Trump 287
Harris 251

spinynorman
Trump 275
Harris 263

darrenmorgan
Harris 303
Trump 235

Happy Mastenator
Harris 292
Trump 246

Might even be a badge for the closest to the pin Wosh

Oh I forgot I had Harris 297, oh well that’s the hill I’m dying on apparently.

I thought I had her 306 ah well.

 

[Sir_Loin]

Before I leave off (because I'm starting to pity you), did you not have anything to say about these points of US complicity?

And without the complicity of the US, he would find his position untenable. Lucky for him that Joe has offered unstinting support:

• Billions in arms and weapons;
• Unfiltered access to US intelligence;
• Daily diplomatic cover;
• Unwavering advocacy in the UN;
• Aggressive efforts to at least discredit and more accurately intimidate the ICJ;
• Constant political pressure on State authorities to clamp down on pro-Palestine protests;
• Attempts to shut down public debate through the adoption of IHRA definition of antisemitism.

Another unfunny f***ing clown.

So the US is responsible the Gaza genocide?

 

[Blue1980]

It was foretold...

Pretty much all the polls the last week or two have come in for Harris. Even Nate silver has gone from trump like 60-40 to 50.0000000000001 Harris.

 

[JB1975]

So the US is responsible the Gaza genocide?

It's called complicity. See post above and argue against Biden's complicity.

Do you wanna, you know...address the evidence?

 

[GreyCrow]

Oh I forgot I had Harris 297, oh well that’s the hill I’m dying on apparently.

I thought I had her 306 ah well.

Still ok to change it I think

Not my post but its still a day out

 

[Sir_Loin]

It's called complicity. See post above and argue against Biden's complicity.

Do you wanna, you know...address the evidence?

Oh now it’s complicity

 

[Blue1980]

Still ok to change it I think

Not my post but its still a day out

Yeah I am 303-235. My original should have been that with the states I picked. Basically same as 2020 with North Carolina going to dems and Georgia to GOP.

 

[JB1975]

Oh now it’s complicity

No, now it's deflection. It's okay, Sir, you don't have to engage if you don't wanna.

 

[Sir_Loin]

No, now it's deflection. It's okay, Sir, you don't have to engage if you don't wanna.

Yeah think I’ll check out no need to waste time on moronacy

 

[JB1975]

Yeah think I’ll check out no need to waste time on moronacy

How about that, you're feeling better about yourself already.

Avoid the deep end of the bath tub in the future.

 

[ams4crows]

Texas flipping to blue would be a dream of mine.


Anyone else watched Red White and Royal Blue

 

[Sir_Loin]

How about that, you're feeling better about yourself already.

Avoid the deep end of the bath tub in the future.

Such a bizarre post you ok mate?

 

[JB1975]

Such a bizarre post you ok mate?

Yes mate. I'm good.

 

[Blue1980]

Just put $20 on the Dems to win, odds $2.50.

 

[Sir_Loin]

Yes mate. I'm good.

Love you