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You beat me to it , had the same thought when i heard.
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Yeah - it’s totally f&@$ed but unless/until the vaccine levels are 80%+ for all ages then this is our reality.
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Until they change the goal posts again.
There is no chance we play the next two games. This I agree with all the above learered gentlemen, the season is cooked.
Curators should be getting grounds ready for cricket season.
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I'm going with a month, might be 2 week lockdown but community sport and anything fun 14 days after a test "return to normal"
Going to be difficult from here and halfwits who don't adhere to simple safeguard calls carry much of the blame.
We've just been out to get some provisions. Only about one in three used the QR Code and there are still halfwits wandering around the supermarket without a mask or with them under their chins or noses. London to a brick the very same dipsticks who whine like 50 y o diffs at each lockdown call. Dumb! Dumb! Dumb!
We've just been out to get some provisions. Only about one in three used the QR Code and there are still halfwits wandering around the supermarket without a mask or with them under their chins or noses. London to a brick the very same dipsticks who whine like 50 y o diffs at each lockdown call. Dumb! Dumb! Dumb!
In hindsight, it was always going to be difficult for the VAFA to get the season completed on time, because there was a strong possibilty that Victoria would go into a lockdown or two during the course of the year, especially in the winter periods (June-August), seeing how Coronavirus really takes hold in that timeframe, taking last year into account.
Saw that at Subway the other day , selfish pricksGoing to be difficult from here and halfwits who don't adhere to simple safeguard calls carry much of the blame.
We've just been out to get some provisions. Only about one in three used the QR Code and there are still halfwits wandering around the supermarket without a mask or with them under their chins or noses. London to a brick the very same dipsticks who whine like 50 y o diffs at each lockdown call. Dumb! Dumb! Dumb!
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Can't quite get over the fact that here we are in the middle of a pandemic and someone at Subway's ad agency sold them on the idea of running ads with drooling morons licking the cabinet. The TV commercials are disgusting.
Anyway. Back to your regularly scheduled VAFA chatting...
On second thoughts (and after seeing today's numbers) we better get on with finals. Good luck all.
Could be difficult trying to schedule finals matches for various sections, seeing that the Herald Sun has reported that Lockdown 6 is likely to be extended beyond next Thursday. And knowing just how ultra cautious Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews is to reopening quickly after the lockdown is lifted, it won't give the VAFA (and other comps around Victoria) much time to complete the season.
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Which clubs would be the biggest losers if we were to go straight in to finals?
Nice defence of the footy club but unfortunately any club is judged by the actions of the individuals who represent it.
How can anyone defend them Les
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One would expect them to part ways at season’s end. Untenable for him to continue surely.
Still can't believe players in the vision have been let off
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did anyone check on local grounds for any non affiliated committee unaware training sessions today?
Because of cancelled games, the competition has become somewhat unfair for clubs vying for top 4 positions in their various tables.
Having lost games by small margins, clubs are left hanging as they have been denied the chance to play against weaker clubs in their respective divisions.
Discussion has been frequent regarding this year’s Promotion-Relegation scenario. I agree that the losing GF team being promoted could be grossly unfair on a club finishing third or fourth.
The powerful people at HandGrenade House haven’t shown their hand as to this year’s finals setup, nor the P/R scenario. I feel that they will adhere to the status quo to the detriment of some unlucky clubs.
Suggestions, for better or for worse: -
Having lost games by small margins, clubs are left hanging as they have been denied the chance to play against weaker clubs in their respective divisions.
Discussion has been frequent regarding this year’s Promotion-Relegation scenario. I agree that the losing GF team being promoted could be grossly unfair on a club finishing third or fourth.
The powerful people at HandGrenade House haven’t shown their hand as to this year’s finals setup, nor the P/R scenario. I feel that they will adhere to the status quo to the detriment of some unlucky clubs.
Suggestions, for better or for worse: -
- Top up, bottom down.
- Runner-up challenges 2nd bottom for elevation rights.
- Should runner-up decline, that option is offered to the third, then fourth-placed clubs.
- As ground availability could be problematic, the challenging club is to be tasked with sourcing the venue.
- In a further attempt to counter game cancellation and forced loss of opportunity, a lower grade (final four) club could also challenge the team finishing 3rd last in the higher division.
Well thought out
Looks good, 1 up 1 down would be harsh in some instances, especially Div 1 where just 3% separates first and second and they are yet to and unlikely to play each other.
Yet in Premier C there seems to be a clear bottom 2. In that case 2 up, 2 down would be fair. Maybe it’s something that should be done on a division by division basis? Then if there is disagreement a challenge system would be great.
But the problem is, has anything the VAFA ever done not been what’s best for Premier and stuff the rest?
It’s hard as well when clubs are peaking and they’ve already lost one season they could have been up, to lose another could really set some clubs back when they could be finally growing to compete up higher.
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A quick question. Do these games count as games for suspension purposes. If yes, players are getting off lightly.
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They class it as games played ,if they were minor 2 weeks it's now harsh and they are all around the bullshit byes.
There will be on games being played this week (14/8), you can bet your bottom dollar on that. Even with today's numbers at 11 cases, only 1 in isolation. Previous trends will tell you it takes days, sometimes weeks, to get numbers into full isolation. Once that occurs, they will proceed very slowly - Newport v. West Footscray being the prime example as to why it will be a slow burn out of lockdown.
1 / 11 VIC cases in isolation for *full* infectious period Confirmed iso %:
6/8 - 0%
7/8 - 0%
8/8 - 0%
9/8 - 9%
I expect this % of cases in full isolation to grow but we certainly have a long way to go. Not to mention the exposure sites are still growing by the day, this will eventually slow down but for now it's rising.
There is also no way the VAFA will extend the season to finish in October, logistically will be too difficult. VAFA will stay consistent with that they've done all season and that is, the bare minimum. This may seem harsh but I believe it's the best course of action. The chances of continuous lockdowns is too high so there is no point trying to reschedule the fixture/push the season back because we are just as likely to go into another lockdown. Why delay the inevitable?!
Realistically, in my opinion, the best course of action is to go straight to finals just as they did with the womens competition. Get those top 4 games in and have a winner for each section/division and move on with 2021, focus on a FULL season in 2022.
Two key notes/issues/queries with this will be, finals game qualification and promotion/relegation. Happy to hear everyone thoughts on this, perhaps if I'm able, I'll draft my own proposed teams for 2022 in the divisions. I think promotion relegation should be partly nominated this season, ie D1 teams can argue all 3 top teams should go up.
As for games qualified, that's an interesting one. Seniors minimum 6 games, reserves minimum 3 (with no more than 6 in senior team). That's my guess but Im sure others will think differently.
1 / 11 VIC cases in isolation for *full* infectious period Confirmed iso %:
6/8 - 0%
7/8 - 0%
8/8 - 0%
9/8 - 9%
I expect this % of cases in full isolation to grow but we certainly have a long way to go. Not to mention the exposure sites are still growing by the day, this will eventually slow down but for now it's rising.
There is also no way the VAFA will extend the season to finish in October, logistically will be too difficult. VAFA will stay consistent with that they've done all season and that is, the bare minimum. This may seem harsh but I believe it's the best course of action. The chances of continuous lockdowns is too high so there is no point trying to reschedule the fixture/push the season back because we are just as likely to go into another lockdown. Why delay the inevitable?!
Realistically, in my opinion, the best course of action is to go straight to finals just as they did with the womens competition. Get those top 4 games in and have a winner for each section/division and move on with 2021, focus on a FULL season in 2022.
Two key notes/issues/queries with this will be, finals game qualification and promotion/relegation. Happy to hear everyone thoughts on this, perhaps if I'm able, I'll draft my own proposed teams for 2022 in the divisions. I think promotion relegation should be partly nominated this season, ie D1 teams can argue all 3 top teams should go up.
As for games qualified, that's an interesting one. Seniors minimum 6 games, reserves minimum 3 (with no more than 6 in senior team). That's my guess but Im sure others will think differently.
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We were all pretty bummed when we went into Lockdown 5. Managed to reach zero positive cases with community exposure about 10 days afterwards (which seemed great). So we opened up for 8 days.
THEN we found two more clusters crop up from nowhere and Lockdown 6 began.
I can’t imagine we will be getting out of LD6 anywhere nears as quickly as we got out of LD5 because:
1. there are more cases in the community whilst infectious; and
2. Opening up swiftly from LD5 proved premature.
so I’d be astonished if there were any game of footy played before mid September (which means realistically no more games at all)
THEN we found two more clusters crop up from nowhere and Lockdown 6 began.
I can’t imagine we will be getting out of LD6 anywhere nears as quickly as we got out of LD5 because:
1. there are more cases in the community whilst infectious; and
2. Opening up swiftly from LD5 proved premature.
so I’d be astonished if there were any game of footy played before mid September (which means realistically no more games at all)
