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Happy to accept fwiwFWIW new vafa president creating a big footy account and the Herald Sun doing a write up on Div1-Div4 recruits, what other nuggets does 2024 have in store? Bedford as the new mod?
Cracking finish, worth the watch.How would you guys on Big Footy rate the VAFA and WA's performance in last Saturday's State game out of 10?
Don’t know a single person who’s going, or to be honest, has the slightest bit of interest.
Admittedly my team is a long, long way from Elsternwick Park, but let’s be honest, it’s an A and B grade recognition thing.
The league should either keep the division matches going, or find a C - D4 rep matchup.
Like to know how come both Victoria & WA in the rep game on Saturday used the Sherrin football for the entire match instead of also having the WA football (the Burley (yellow) football) used as well. In the old days when it's ie Victoria and SA, the Sherrin football would be used for the 1st and 3rd quarter, the Ross Faulkner (the SA ball), the 2nd and final quarter.
St Bedes Mentone Tigers are an old boy club aren't they?For all of the bedford fans, see attached, he’s everywhere now!
Mentone TigersSt Bedes Mentone Tigers are an old boy club aren't they?
It was hypothetical , gradings not really important fwiw i spoke to your coach about it the other dayOutside of some obvious bias in grading it is a great idea from Bedders.
Reckon quick grading period would solve that hurdle.
Can someone post the article please?
It will allow me to kill some time at work LOL
It was hypothetical , gradings not really important fwiw i spoke to your coach about it the other day
Any injuries (minor or major) from the state game Jas?Give WA a lot of credit to come from 38 points down at halftime on Saturday, when you consider they were looking right down the barrel of a 10+ goal hiding, and remembering WA's poor record in interstate footy of any level in Melbourne. The VAFA v WA epic game at Elsternwick Park brought back memories of those classic State of Origin games between the two great football States at Subiaco Oval in 1983, 1984 and 1986. However, agree that Victoria was making sure that none of the top players got injured/reported and were playing in second gear mode, especially with the relegation battles and spots for finals places looming, while WA was playing as if the state's football reputation was on the line, considering the poor form of the Eagles and Dockers in the AFL and their State League team got beaten by SA.
I would rate the VAFA a 4 out 10 for their performance in the state game. While they were very good in the first half, they went back into their shells in the second half and only really got going when extra time started.
I'll give WA a 8/10 rating, the Sandgrophers were superb in the second half and were very unlucky not to win the game. As I mentioned above, WA had nothing to lose and threw everything at the Vics, considering WA's football reputation was on the line.
However, agree that Victoria was making sure that none of the top players got injured/reported and were playing in second gear mode, especially with the relegation battles and spots for finals places looming, while WA was playing as if the state's football reputation was on the line, considering the poor form of the Eagles and Dockers in the AFL and their State League team got beaten by SA.
Thanks for posting the article.Southern Bayside Football League: Gary ‘Bomber’ Murray states the case and grades 40 clubs
Prompted by the creation of Cricket Southern Bayside, local sports identity Gary ‘Bomber’ Murray has for years discussed a similar league for football. Now he has listed and graded 40 clubs across four divisions, writes PAUL AMY.
Paul Amy
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3 min read
July 19, 2023 - 6:00AM
Gary ‘Bomber’ Murray has an idea that would change the Southern league forever.
Welcome to the Southern Bayside Football League.
There are 40 clubs and four divisions.
And in time, Gary ‘Bomber’ Murray says, there will be the passionate local rivalries that come with district competition.
The Southern Bayside Football League won’t be starting any time soon in Melbourne.
But Ormond Amateur Football Club life member Murray thinks that if his hypothetical league ever got off the ground, it would be an excellent competition and superior to existing leagues.
Prompted by the creation of Cricket Southern Bayside, he’s been talking about a similar league for football for a few years, roughing out the clubs that could take part and where they would start in a divisional structure.
He was at it again last week, listing 40 clubs and grading them.
Ormond celebrates a goal in the VAFA this year. Picture: Supplied
They are drawn from the Southern Football Netball League, the Victorian Amateur Football Association, the Mornington Peninsula Football League and, in the case of Oakleigh District, the Eastern Football Netball League. Murray believes that Oakleigh District, which moved to Eastern last year, should be playing closer to home.
Murray’s league runs from Port Melbourne to Seaford. It goes no further east than Clayton and no further north than East Malvern.
It means there is no room for clubs like Cranbourne – Southern’s Division 1 reigning premier – Doveton and Endeavour Hills; he has not strayed into the City of Casey and has selected only one club from the City of Greater Dandenong.
Murray says it makes sense to bring together clubs who are in the same region but are playing in different leagues.
He says travel is taxing for players, coaches and volunteers.
Ormond, for example, plays in the Premier C section of the amateurs, competing against clubs such as PEGS, Old Ivanhoe and Marcellin.
He would prefer if the Monders met clubs like East Brighton and Mordialloc, establishing local rivalries.
The VAFA clubs he has nominated for the Southern Bayside Football League are all “district” affiliates, without ties to private schools or universities.
Cheltenham is a pacesetter in the Southern league. Picture: Josh Chadwick
Murray says it has become too difficult for district clubs to reach the top tier of the amateurs and when they do get there, they invariably go back down quickly.
“You can’t compete with their resources,” he says of the old boys clubs, noting that one of them recently fielded a team with 17 players boasting experience at AFL or VFL level.
Murray says one-up, one-down promotion and relegation would apply, recognising premiership teams, not the two grand finalists, and salary and points caps would apply in the highest division.
He would set the player payments ceiling for the highest division at $80,000.
The administration would be along traditional lines, with a CEO and support staff overseen by a board.
Murray says divisional football is important at local level, as it allows clubs to find their standard.
He has based his hypothetical divisions on the clubs’ performances in the past two seasons.
He knows they will provoke discussion.
Whenever he’s spoken about the potential for a southern bayside league, the reaction has been “very good, apart from people saying which grade their own team should be in!”
Finn Ryan kicks for Cheltenham in the Southern Football Netball League Division 1. Picture: Josh Chadwick
Murray has been involved in community sport in the southern bayside region for many years, attaining life membership of Ormond Amateur Football Club and Middle Park Cricket Club. He has also been involved at South Caulfield Cricket Club for 18 years.
He expresses his opinions on sport liberally and trenchantly on social media.
In 2016, Murray was involved in the creation of Cricket Southern Bayside, when clubs broke away from the Victorian Turf Cricket Association to form a more local competition.
Last season, Bentleigh, Murrumbeena, Beaumaris, Bonbeach, Mordialloc, Hampton, Mentone and South Caulfield made up the top grade, the Championship.
Cheltenham, Carnegie, Parkdale, Parkdale United, Brighton District, St Brigid’s St Louis, Dingley, Clayton District, Middle Park, Aspendale and Chelsea are in either Division 1 or 2.
Murray says CSB has worked brilliantly as a regional association.
“It’s sensational,” he says.
And he’s adamant a Southern Bayside Football League would be too.
His floating of the league comes as the Mornington Peninsula league takes in “expressions of interest’’ for a third division.
If the MPFL clubs vote to support the expansion, Southern could lose an entire grade, with clubs including Frankston Dolphins, South Mornington and Cranbourne tipped to make the move.
‘Bomber’s’ Blueprint: The Southern Bayside Football League
DIVISION 1
Ajax (VAFA)
Beaumaris (VAFA)
Bonbeach (MPFL)
Chelsea (MPFL)
Cheltenham (SFNL)
Dingley (SFNL)
Hampton Rovers (VAFA)
Port Melbourne Colts (SFNL)
St Bede’s Mentone Tigers (VAFA)
St Paul’s (SFNL)
DIVISION 2
Bentleigh (SFNL)
Chelsea Heights (SFNL)
Edithvale-Aspendale (MPNFL)
East Brighton (SFNL)
Mordialloc (SFNL)
Parkdale Vultures (VAFA)
Ormond (VAFA)
Seaford (MPFL)
Springvale Districts (SFNL)
St Kilda City (SFNL)
DIVISION 3
Caulfield (SFNL)
East Malvern (SFNL)
Elsternwick (VAFA)
Glen Eira (VAFA)
Highett (SFNL)
Keysborough (SFNL)
Murrumbeena (SFNL)
Oakleigh District (EFNL)
Oakleigh Krushers (VAFA)
Prahran (VAFA)
DIVISION 4
Albert Park (VAFA)
Ashwood (SFNL)
Black Rock (SFNL)
Carrum Patterson Lakes (SFNL)
Clayton (SFNL)
Hampton Hammers (SFNL)
Heatherton (SFNL)
Mentone (formerly Old Mentonians, league to be confirmed)
Moorabbin Kangaroos (SFNL)
Power House (VAFA)
South Melbourne Districts (VAFA)
I like it, Ive heard Masala on the move to SNFL due to travel and lack of support from the comp!Southern Bayside Football League: Gary ‘Bomber’ Murray states the case and grades 40 clubs
Prompted by the creation of Cricket Southern Bayside, local sports identity Gary ‘Bomber’ Murray has for years discussed a similar league for football. Now he has listed and graded 40 clubs across four divisions, writes PAUL AMY.
Paul Amy
Follow
@paulamy375
3 min read
July 19, 2023 - 6:00AM
Gary ‘Bomber’ Murray has an idea that would change the Southern league forever.
Welcome to the Southern Bayside Football League.
There are 40 clubs and four divisions.
And in time, Gary ‘Bomber’ Murray says, there will be the passionate local rivalries that come with district competition.
The Southern Bayside Football League won’t be starting any time soon in Melbourne.
But Ormond Amateur Football Club life member Murray thinks that if his hypothetical league ever got off the ground, it would be an excellent competition and superior to existing leagues.
Prompted by the creation of Cricket Southern Bayside, he’s been talking about a similar league for football for a few years, roughing out the clubs that could take part and where they would start in a divisional structure.
He was at it again last week, listing 40 clubs and grading them.
Ormond celebrates a goal in the VAFA this year. Picture: Supplied
They are drawn from the Southern Football Netball League, the Victorian Amateur Football Association, the Mornington Peninsula Football League and, in the case of Oakleigh District, the Eastern Football Netball League. Murray believes that Oakleigh District, which moved to Eastern last year, should be playing closer to home.
Murray’s league runs from Port Melbourne to Seaford. It goes no further east than Clayton and no further north than East Malvern.
It means there is no room for clubs like Cranbourne – Southern’s Division 1 reigning premier – Doveton and Endeavour Hills; he has not strayed into the City of Casey and has selected only one club from the City of Greater Dandenong.
Murray says it makes sense to bring together clubs who are in the same region but are playing in different leagues.
He says travel is taxing for players, coaches and volunteers.
Ormond, for example, plays in the Premier C section of the amateurs, competing against clubs such as PEGS, Old Ivanhoe and Marcellin.
He would prefer if the Monders met clubs like East Brighton and Mordialloc, establishing local rivalries.
The VAFA clubs he has nominated for the Southern Bayside Football League are all “district” affiliates, without ties to private schools or universities.
Cheltenham is a pacesetter in the Southern league. Picture: Josh Chadwick
Murray says it has become too difficult for district clubs to reach the top tier of the amateurs and when they do get there, they invariably go back down quickly.
“You can’t compete with their resources,” he says of the old boys clubs, noting that one of them recently fielded a team with 17 players boasting experience at AFL or VFL level.
Murray says one-up, one-down promotion and relegation would apply, recognising premiership teams, not the two grand finalists, and salary and points caps would apply in the highest division.
He would set the player payments ceiling for the highest division at $80,000.
The administration would be along traditional lines, with a CEO and support staff overseen by a board.
Murray says divisional football is important at local level, as it allows clubs to find their standard.
He has based his hypothetical divisions on the clubs’ performances in the past two seasons.
He knows they will provoke discussion.
Whenever he’s spoken about the potential for a southern bayside league, the reaction has been “very good, apart from people saying which grade their own team should be in!”
Finn Ryan kicks for Cheltenham in the Southern Football Netball League Division 1. Picture: Josh Chadwick
Murray has been involved in community sport in the southern bayside region for many years, attaining life membership of Ormond Amateur Football Club and Middle Park Cricket Club. He has also been involved at South Caulfield Cricket Club for 18 years.
He expresses his opinions on sport liberally and trenchantly on social media.
In 2016, Murray was involved in the creation of Cricket Southern Bayside, when clubs broke away from the Victorian Turf Cricket Association to form a more local competition.
Last season, Bentleigh, Murrumbeena, Beaumaris, Bonbeach, Mordialloc, Hampton, Mentone and South Caulfield made up the top grade, the Championship.
Cheltenham, Carnegie, Parkdale, Parkdale United, Brighton District, St Brigid’s St Louis, Dingley, Clayton District, Middle Park, Aspendale and Chelsea are in either Division 1 or 2.
Murray says CSB has worked brilliantly as a regional association.
“It’s sensational,” he says.
And he’s adamant a Southern Bayside Football League would be too.
His floating of the league comes as the Mornington Peninsula league takes in “expressions of interest’’ for a third division.
If the MPFL clubs vote to support the expansion, Southern could lose an entire grade, with clubs including Frankston Dolphins, South Mornington and Cranbourne tipped to make the move.
‘Bomber’s’ Blueprint: The Southern Bayside Football League
DIVISION 1
Ajax (VAFA)
Beaumaris (VAFA)
Bonbeach (MPFL)
Chelsea (MPFL)
Cheltenham (SFNL)
Dingley (SFNL)
Hampton Rovers (VAFA)
Port Melbourne Colts (SFNL)
St Bede’s Mentone Tigers (VAFA)
St Paul’s (SFNL)
DIVISION 2
Bentleigh (SFNL)
Chelsea Heights (SFNL)
Edithvale-Aspendale (MPNFL)
East Brighton (SFNL)
Mordialloc (SFNL)
Parkdale Vultures (VAFA)
Ormond (VAFA)
Seaford (MPFL)
Springvale Districts (SFNL)
St Kilda City (SFNL)
DIVISION 3
Caulfield (SFNL)
East Malvern (SFNL)
Elsternwick (VAFA)
Glen Eira (VAFA)
Highett (SFNL)
Keysborough (SFNL)
Murrumbeena (SFNL)
Oakleigh District (EFNL)
Oakleigh Krushers (VAFA)
Prahran (VAFA)
DIVISION 4
Albert Park (VAFA)
Ashwood (SFNL)
Black Rock (SFNL)
Carrum Patterson Lakes (SFNL)
Clayton (SFNL)
Hampton Hammers (SFNL)
Heatherton (SFNL)
Mentone (formerly Old Mentonians, league to be confirmed)
Moorabbin Kangaroos (SFNL)
Power House (VAFA)
South Melbourne Districts (VAFA)
Would you include a clubbies/thirds comp?
I like it, Ive heard Masala on the move to SNFL due to travel and lack of support from the comp!
I take it the Salesian link is why SMS weren't included? We wouldn't move regardless but just curious given we're further south than SMD, Powerhouse and Albert ParkSouthern Bayside Football League: Gary ‘Bomber’ Murray states the case and grades 40 clubs
Prompted by the creation of Cricket Southern Bayside, local sports identity Gary ‘Bomber’ Murray has for years discussed a similar league for football. Now he has listed and graded 40 clubs across four divisions, writes PAUL AMY.
Paul Amy
Follow
@paulamy375
3 min read
July 19, 2023 - 6:00AM
Gary ‘Bomber’ Murray has an idea that would change the Southern league forever.
Welcome to the Southern Bayside Football League.
There are 40 clubs and four divisions.
And in time, Gary ‘Bomber’ Murray says, there will be the passionate local rivalries that come with district competition.
The Southern Bayside Football League won’t be starting any time soon in Melbourne.
But Ormond Amateur Football Club life member Murray thinks that if his hypothetical league ever got off the ground, it would be an excellent competition and superior to existing leagues.
Prompted by the creation of Cricket Southern Bayside, he’s been talking about a similar league for football for a few years, roughing out the clubs that could take part and where they would start in a divisional structure.
He was at it again last week, listing 40 clubs and grading them.
Ormond celebrates a goal in the VAFA this year. Picture: Supplied
They are drawn from the Southern Football Netball League, the Victorian Amateur Football Association, the Mornington Peninsula Football League and, in the case of Oakleigh District, the Eastern Football Netball League. Murray believes that Oakleigh District, which moved to Eastern last year, should be playing closer to home.
Murray’s league runs from Port Melbourne to Seaford. It goes no further east than Clayton and no further north than East Malvern.
It means there is no room for clubs like Cranbourne – Southern’s Division 1 reigning premier – Doveton and Endeavour Hills; he has not strayed into the City of Casey and has selected only one club from the City of Greater Dandenong.
Murray says it makes sense to bring together clubs who are in the same region but are playing in different leagues.
He says travel is taxing for players, coaches and volunteers.
Ormond, for example, plays in the Premier C section of the amateurs, competing against clubs such as PEGS, Old Ivanhoe and Marcellin.
He would prefer if the Monders met clubs like East Brighton and Mordialloc, establishing local rivalries.
The VAFA clubs he has nominated for the Southern Bayside Football League are all “district” affiliates, without ties to private schools or universities.
Cheltenham is a pacesetter in the Southern league. Picture: Josh Chadwick
Murray says it has become too difficult for district clubs to reach the top tier of the amateurs and when they do get there, they invariably go back down quickly.
“You can’t compete with their resources,” he says of the old boys clubs, noting that one of them recently fielded a team with 17 players boasting experience at AFL or VFL level.
Murray says one-up, one-down promotion and relegation would apply, recognising premiership teams, not the two grand finalists, and salary and points caps would apply in the highest division.
He would set the player payments ceiling for the highest division at $80,000.
The administration would be along traditional lines, with a CEO and support staff overseen by a board.
Murray says divisional football is important at local level, as it allows clubs to find their standard.
He has based his hypothetical divisions on the clubs’ performances in the past two seasons.
He knows they will provoke discussion.
Whenever he’s spoken about the potential for a southern bayside league, the reaction has been “very good, apart from people saying which grade their own team should be in!”
Finn Ryan kicks for Cheltenham in the Southern Football Netball League Division 1. Picture: Josh Chadwick
Murray has been involved in community sport in the southern bayside region for many years, attaining life membership of Ormond Amateur Football Club and Middle Park Cricket Club. He has also been involved at South Caulfield Cricket Club for 18 years.
He expresses his opinions on sport liberally and trenchantly on social media.
In 2016, Murray was involved in the creation of Cricket Southern Bayside, when clubs broke away from the Victorian Turf Cricket Association to form a more local competition.
Last season, Bentleigh, Murrumbeena, Beaumaris, Bonbeach, Mordialloc, Hampton, Mentone and South Caulfield made up the top grade, the Championship.
Cheltenham, Carnegie, Parkdale, Parkdale United, Brighton District, St Brigid’s St Louis, Dingley, Clayton District, Middle Park, Aspendale and Chelsea are in either Division 1 or 2.
Murray says CSB has worked brilliantly as a regional association.
“It’s sensational,” he says.
And he’s adamant a Southern Bayside Football League would be too.
His floating of the league comes as the Mornington Peninsula league takes in “expressions of interest’’ for a third division.
If the MPFL clubs vote to support the expansion, Southern could lose an entire grade, with clubs including Frankston Dolphins, South Mornington and Cranbourne tipped to make the move.
‘Bomber’s’ Blueprint: The Southern Bayside Football League
DIVISION 1
Ajax (VAFA)
Beaumaris (VAFA)
Bonbeach (MPFL)
Chelsea (MPFL)
Cheltenham (SFNL)
Dingley (SFNL)
Hampton Rovers (VAFA)
Port Melbourne Colts (SFNL)
St Bede’s Mentone Tigers (VAFA)
St Paul’s (SFNL)
DIVISION 2
Bentleigh (SFNL)
Chelsea Heights (SFNL)
Edithvale-Aspendale (MPNFL)
East Brighton (SFNL)
Mordialloc (SFNL)
Parkdale Vultures (VAFA)
Ormond (VAFA)
Seaford (MPFL)
Springvale Districts (SFNL)
St Kilda City (SFNL)
DIVISION 3
Caulfield (SFNL)
East Malvern (SFNL)
Elsternwick (VAFA)
Glen Eira (VAFA)
Highett (SFNL)
Keysborough (SFNL)
Murrumbeena (SFNL)
Oakleigh District (EFNL)
Oakleigh Krushers (VAFA)
Prahran (VAFA)
DIVISION 4
Albert Park (VAFA)
Ashwood (SFNL)
Black Rock (SFNL)
Carrum Patterson Lakes (SFNL)
Clayton (SFNL)
Hampton Hammers (SFNL)
Heatherton (SFNL)
Mentone (formerly Old Mentonians, league to be confirmed)
Moorabbin Kangaroos (SFNL)
Power House (VAFA)
South Melbourne Districts (VAFA)
Was all in jest , it was about the reporter who only seemed to report on rivergum lolHaha, bedford off topic but I remember you constantly giving it to the blokes from Rivergum CC in the leader comments section a few years ago whenever they got a mention. Just want to say how much I appreciated that lol.
Have it on good authority that St Johns not merging with Masala or moving to SFL.Wouldn't St Johns face the same issues? They're also based in Dandenong
SMD IS VIRTUALLY ON THE BEACH , AS ARE THE OTHER 2. Salesian is a school teamI take it the Salesian link is why SMS weren't included? We wouldn't move regardless but just curious given we're further south than SMD, Powerhouse and Albert Park
Who would they replace in Div 2 ?I like it, Ive heard Masala on the move to SNFL due to travel and lack of support from the comp!
The powerbrokers at GI wouldnt be happy to be placed in Div 3 Bedford?
Imagine how strong AJAX would be if they can pay players?
Would you include a clubbies/thirds comp?