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Mounzer11 said:
100% happened, it was the coaches son who was told he was too young.
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I remember many years ago an umpire called Stubbsy asking me to prove a water boy was over 14 by getting his birth certificate. He wasn’t allowed to run water. The boy was a girl and she was 14. Same umpire who gave a fifty because the man on the mark had his shadow over the mark. Memories.
 
Mounzer11 said:
Speaking of volunteers, was told that a water boy was kicked off a ground by the umpires for being too young on the weekend. The kid was 11.
I would be horrified if that’s a HQ directive.
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I recon the Look at Me Look at Me from Saturday would have done that.

Two of our water boys have gone on to umpire A Grade. They started when they were 10-11 when they started. Another became an assistant coach and 6-7 are playing football with the club.
 

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Will be interesting to see what happens with promotion and relegation now
 
MortlockWatcher said:
Don't discount the possibility of Old Paradians bidding farewell as well. That will mean a bit more work for HQ.
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If they do, you'd say bye to D4 (which probably happens anyway)
 
eth-dog said:
Will be interesting to see what happens with promotion and relegation now
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Whatever they do with Div 4 it will result in some absolute beltings on the field. Swinburne and La Trobe have been hammered this year in D3 and they were the pick of the litter in D4.

Masala and St Johns move to the SFNL? and make a 12 team Div 3 could be the way to go.
 
God Yeah said:
Whatever they do with Div 4 it will result in some absolute beltings on the field. Swinburne and La Trobe have been hammered this year in D3 and they were the pick of the litter in D4.

Masala and St Johns move to the SFNL? and make a 12 team Div 3 could be the way to go.
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Might have to put the top 4 from d3 into d2. Given parkside and south’s efforts this year and how much ahead Elsternwick the cobbies the hawks and WP are it probably makes most sense


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Seems like Ivanhoe Amateurs have mad an almost unanimous call. Good luck to them in the northern league I say. I can see their reasons for moving as being valid and warranted in their case, especially geographically and trying to get players in the door.

I think the divisions will now almost certainly go through a restructure of sorts over the summer period.
 

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MortlockWatcher said:
Todays Herald Sun

A historic amateur club is considering a move to a new league for 2024​

A historic amateur club will hold an extraordinary general meeting to vote on a potential move to a new league in 2024.

Ivanhoe, which joined the Victorian Amateur Football Association – then known as the Metropolitan league – in 1934, will hold a vote next week to decide its home for next season and beyond.

The Hoers will hold an extraordinary general meeting on Thursday, August 10, to vote on a move to the Northern Football Netball League.

Without school old boy affiliation, player retention and recruitment as well as travel are among the factors behind the potential move.

Ivanhoe president Peter Rawley said all members would have a chance to have their say on the club’s future.

“At the end of last year the committee was looking at forward planning and identified player retention and recruitment remained a challenge for us,” he said.

“We thought we’d explore different options, we created a sub-committee, and it investigated remaining in the VAFA, exploring joining the Northern and even a potential merge with another local club.

“Six or seven weeks ago that sub-committee recommended we explore the opportunity to join the Northern Football Netball League.”

Rawley said the club had done a lot of research on what it would take to move away from amateur football.

“One of the opportunities we don’t have currently in playing in the VAFA is the offer of renumeration.

“That’s going to take on different levels of us being an amateur club transitioning to a professional club, we understand that will be a slow process.

“We’ve talked to several other clubs about how they did that, Eltham Turtles, Banyule, even some people at Kilmore.

“We feel being able to reward players playing at our club, that could be match payments, incentives for best players or even merch and gear that we could supply, and all those are not permitted under VAFA rules.

“The other feedback we’ve got is the nature of local, in terms of the geography of teams.

“Should we go to Northern, there are teams a considerable distance, such as Kilmore and Kinglake, but … hopefully we’d move through the grades in time and the location would be appealing to players.

“Whereas the VAFA is across all metropolitan areas, this year we can find ourselves playing in Glen Eira, Murrumbeena, Oakleigh and down as far as the peninsula.

“We found that was a little bit of a stumbling block for attracting players that have always played in the Northern.

“That’s also about attracting coaches, volunteers, supporters to follow the team, members, staff and all that sort of thing.”

Ivanhoe is the VAFA’s ninth oldest continuous member.

It would be the third amateur club to join the NFNL since 2015 following Banyule and Old Eltham Collegians, while Kilmore (Riddell District) and Kinglake (Outer East) have also joined.

The Hoers have produced a host of VFL/AFL players since its inception in 1910, none bigger than the likes of Albert and Harry Collier.

VFL chief commissioner and Australian Football Hall of Famer Jack Hamilton, Brisbane Lions and Sydney CEO Andrew Ireland and legendary recruiter Neville Stibbard also started out at Ivanhoe Park.

After winning the Division 2 premiership last season, its first since 1969, Ivanhoe has endured a difficult 2023 in Division 1.

The club is facing relegation with just two wins, which would leave it in the VAFA’s fifth tier, while a move to the NFNL would likely see the Hoers enter in Division 3.

Despite the on-field struggles, Rawley says the club has never been better off off-field.

“Our club is in its strongest position in its 113 years,” he said.

“Over the last three years we’ve done a lot of work to get the football club in a strong position, long before any thought of going to the Northern.

“We wanted to make sure the club was in a position to fund elite coaching, have better facilities, equipment and all the rest of it to make us an attractive organisation.

“We have significant support from sponsors to continue supporting us financially whether we’re in the Northern or remain in the VAFA next year.”
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hey Champ or Chump, ole mate Rawley getting a fair bit of air play on here! Will have to crank him tomorrow and reduce the size of his overgown ego!

If you see him before me, dont say anything to him as I want to surprise him!

Also overheard last week that he went to see Barbie! Surely a club fine of colossal value?
 
God Yeah said:
Whatever they do with Div 4 it will result in some absolute beltings on the field. Swinburne and La Trobe have been hammered this year in D3 and they were the pick of the litter in D4.

Masala and St Johns move to the SFNL? and make a 12 team Div 3 could be the way to go.
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I reckon we might see BHN and Eley Park merge in the not too distant future as well. Both will really struggle in D3
hansie said:
Might have to put the top 4 from d3 into d2. Given parkside and south’s efforts this year and how much ahead Elsternwick the cobbies the hawks and WP are it probably makes most sense


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2 up/0 down I bet.
 
God Yeah said:
Whatever they do with Div 4 it will result in some absolute beltings on the field. Swinburne and La Trobe have been hammered this year in D3 and they were the pick of the litter in D4.

Masala and St Johns move to the SFNL? and make a 12 team Div 3 could be the way to go.
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Never underestimate the churn that Uni sides experience each year. There are quite a few players who were very good at both clubs left year. Who are no longer there and playing elsewhere.
 
You will be happy to know we fined him appropriately Brainy one - he has to play in the OGGS colours in and scratch match we have organised. He is filthy!

Chump 🏆
Brainy Tim said:
hey Champ or Chump, ole mate Rawley getting a fair bit of air play on here! Will have to crank him tomorrow and reduce the size of his overgown ego!

If you see him before me, dont say anything to him as I want to surprise him!

Also overheard last week that he went to see Barbie! Surely a club fine of colossal value?
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Champ or Chump said:
You will be happy to know we fined him appropriately Brainy one - he has to play in the OGGS colours in and scratch match we have organised. He is filthy!

Chump 🏆

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Will never happen in a million years. Champy!

Rawley is nowhere near pretty enough to play for the Oggers!
 
Sorry to see clubs leave.

That said I hope the VAFA take the opportunity to look at their options when it comes to division sizes, length of the season and fixtures.

Personally I'd love to see larger divisions, everyone play each other once and a mid winter break.
 
Jascave said:
Wouldn't be great if an Ivanhoe team at any level- Seniors, Reserves, Thirds/Club 18, Under 19s- were to win a premiership before they leave the VAFA to join the Northern Football League?

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They won the flag last year Jas.

First senior flag in a very long time, broke the drought.
 
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