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They said 1,200+ new households were in todays numbers. Doesnt bode well for much of a drop off.
Victorian Covid Outbreak 2021
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It’s only a five-day snap lockdown, relax everyone
www.abc.net.au
Victoria to enter five-day snap lockdown as more COVID-19 cases recorded
All of Victoria will go into a five-day snap lockdown from midnight tonight to curb the growing COVID outbreak.
www.abc.net.au
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It’s only a five-day snap lockdown, relax everyone
Victoria to enter five-day snap lockdown as more COVID-19 cases recorded
All of Victoria will go into a five-day snap lockdown from midnight tonight to curb the growing COVID outbreak.
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If the media out of NSW could be cut off from Victoria so Victorians had no idea about NSW opening up I don't think Victoria would be pushing on with their own opening up while they record the most cases ever.
I'm very happy they are so supremely confident in the vaccines countering the extreme of covid-19 not overwhelming their health systems, but Victoria is going to be the test case for opening up - not NSW, given the base case load will be far closer to endemic by the time they throw their hands up.
Fingers crossed it all goes well, ultimately I think the social pressure to not be locked down anymore is overpowering the benefit the politicians saw prior from keeping people safe. Now it's more important to keep them happy again.
I'm very happy they are so supremely confident in the vaccines countering the extreme of covid-19 not overwhelming their health systems, but Victoria is going to be the test case for opening up - not NSW, given the base case load will be far closer to endemic by the time they throw their hands up.
Fingers crossed it all goes well, ultimately I think the social pressure to not be locked down anymore is overpowering the benefit the politicians saw prior from keeping people safe. Now it's more important to keep them happy again.
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What's the hesitancy though?
There'll be thousands of cases every day. Same as there is everywhere else in the world that has opened up.
The Pandemic hasn't gone away.
The only thing that has changed is that most people that get it won't go to hospital. That's the main thing.
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What do you think the numbers would have looked like without lockdown?
And, without 60 odd % of people vaccinated?
Doesn't this situation support Lockdowns??
I expect nervous and wary people and opening up won't mean a goddam thing, nothing is returning to anything like normal. At least the cases have been reducing in NSW and they have opened up, increasing in Victoria and we're still opening up! I'm only asking why is it that Victoria is the worst in the country? Victoria has less tests than NSW and 5 times more cases? I witness a whole lot of waffle every day, but no real answers? Andrews states the road map is clear and on track to re-opening, re-opening to what?
A couple of things...
Cases don't matter.
NSW are vax'd higher
We aren't in lockdown. People are not staying Home.
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What do you think numbers would have been, noting where the highest infection rates have been?
I think our numbers would have closer to what the modelling suggested.
Closer to what all other countries saw when they weren't locked down and weren't vax'd.
The modelling the roadmap is based on has held very close to true so far.
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we dont need to guess, we can just look at places like sweden who didnt lockdown. their infection rates would have had over 36k people dead here.
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I get that. However, bar NSW no other state has experienced high infection or death rates. Has Victoria just been unlucky?
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IIRC it got into their nursing homes at the very beginning. Like a lot of places with high death rates (Victoria included). We know, and have known for a long time, if it gets into nursing homes, it’s ugly.
Outside of nursing homes and vulnerable care, if you want to argue that a 20-month mass quarantine of every single healthy, asymptomatic person has been a successful strategy globally, you have to look at places where the virus is out and freely spreading. The data out of the US clearly shows that once there is significant community transmission (which is inevitable anyway, as the Victorian experiment has shown…) it makes no difference to quarantine healthy populations. At that point, all you can do is protect the vulnerable and elderly populations.
Which we have now already done through vaccinations. That’s done, it’s over. Finished.
Victoria could open up today. Right now. And get back to normal. Nothing catastrophic would happen, except the obvious realization of how many pieces there are to pick up of the lives that have been totally destoyed by the Victorian Government
2107 in Victoria today
399 IN NSW
Something drastically wrong in Victoria ...
I agree about the cases, I want to know who actually gets seriously ill, who is in the hospital because of it, and how many are dropping dead?
Why is it wrong?
We're barely locked down. We're only 60 something % vax'd.
We're in a pandemic.
What's the issue?
We always knew there'd be lots of cases. There'll be lots more once we fully open up too.
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Why has Melbourne had more Covid outbreaks, and longer lockdowns than anywhere else in Australia?
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Based on current stats approx 15 people per day in end up in Hospital in Victoria due to COVID.
Refer to: COVID-19 Hospitalisation, ICU, ventilator data in Australia | covid19data.com.au
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Because Dan Andrews is going a great job. Isn’t that obvious?
Think people fail to understand that Sydney was under 5km radius until the other day. We haven’t been under it for over a month - it’s 15km right now. I think that’s one of the biggest things, it’s probably facilitated spread across the city so now it is everywhere - for better or worse.
From a messaging level all the way down this is the least strict lockdown in Melbourne since the first one.
