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You should really stick to your obsessive over-analysing in the Madeleine McCann thread. Have you found her yet?
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Current WAR CRIMES Israel - Hamas - Hezbollah - Houthis
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You suspect...?!
You should really stick to your obsessive over-analysing in the Madeleine McCann thread. Have you found her yet?
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Hamas is the government party of Gaza/ Palestine. They murdered 1500 innocent Israelis without provocation in an act of war and now they have one. There is no two state solution that Palestine will accept because it's repeatedly been offered. 14% of Israel are peaceful Arab Muslims. So the question is how can they live that by choice but not Gazans? The history is that both at various times going back to BC times have a connection to the territory. The difference is that Israel wants peace and live in harmony. Palestinians don't and the fact they don't is driven by religious fanaticism
Sad to say but this outcome is driven entirely by Hamas and by popular
support for Hamas despite it being a terrorist organization. The fact 75% of Palestinians supported the October unprovoked massacre of Israelis including babies is inexcusable and demonstrates a now 75 year lack of desire for peace on any basis apart from eradication of Israel per se which will not happen. Small incursions to dismantle tunnels in the past hasn't worked. This time they are making the Gaza strip a wasteland. The world is in outrage that this is happening but it could easily be avoided by a peaceful two state solution offered on 16 separate occasions. These people only want war. You reap what you sow I guess.
I support Israel because I support peace
Sad to say but this outcome is driven entirely by Hamas and by popular
support for Hamas despite it being a terrorist organization. The fact 75% of Palestinians supported the October unprovoked massacre of Israelis including babies is inexcusable and demonstrates a now 75 year lack of desire for peace on any basis apart from eradication of Israel per se which will not happen. Small incursions to dismantle tunnels in the past hasn't worked. This time they are making the Gaza strip a wasteland. The world is in outrage that this is happening but it could easily be avoided by a peaceful two state solution offered on 16 separate occasions. These people only want war. You reap what you sow I guess.
I support Israel because I support peace
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You suspect...?!
You should really stick to your obsessive over-analysing in the Madeleine McCann thread. Have you found her yet?
I haven't done a detailed analysis of the countryside. There are 13 forests and rural areas. So there are low density sites with certainty.
Do you want pictures to make it easier to comprehend?
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How do you suspect 1,000,000+ people will drink and pooh in "forests and rural areas"?I haven't done a detailed analysis of the countryside. There are 13 forests and rural areas. So there are low density sites with certainty.
Do you want pictures to make it easier to comprehend?
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It would suck being old and scared of the world about which you know so little.
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It's not my role to create a solution for the protagonists of war. I simply said the best chance of survival is to go to low density location with no Hamas presence.
They won't need to excrete often because they won't have eaten much. You make do if you want to live. Do I really need to tell you that? The food access they are getting is beans and biscuits I understand. I'm unsure of access to water which is main problem.
Good strategy .....never start a war with a state that can decimate you.
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All those women and children who "started a war" because they support Hamas, right?
Israel is committing war crimes. You can justify it by saying those women and children deserve it for voting for Hamas / those lives don't matter but the fact is they are committing crimes by murdering and otherwisdse harming massive numbers of civilians (collective punishment). They are not memebrs of the ICC so nothing will become of it but they are committing crimes.
Do you relish being shown to be wrong? Your 'analyses' based on your experience as a tax accountant are invariably proven incorrect across every BFF thread in which you
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What are you suggesting? Israel have no response to murder of their women children and babies? or perhaps say .....that was naughty you killed 1500 of our people but it's alright we understand?
There are always consequences from actions of terrorism including actions in voting a terrorist organization to power and leaving it to build tunnels and missiles and attack innocent's across the border.
Back at start of WW2 there were consequences for the German population for having allowed a lunatic come to power. History is littered with these things and innocents paying a price accordingly. Sad but true
There could have been some/ any democratic process moving to a peaceful two state solution BUT it wasn't contemplated by Palestine. The majority of Palestine. So now Israel is intent on decimation and that was a very predictable outcome to 75 years of hatred and malice.
Sad thing is I doubt it will change a thing either
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I'm suggesting the response to a crime is not to commit 10x more crimes but to hold the perpetrators to account. It's quicker, easier and cheaper to kill women and children but it's also illegal. I can believe I have to explain this to you.
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There is some conjecture that
Israel doesn't seek to kill anyone apart from Hamas. But Hamas do. They want residents to stay so they can be killed and then claim victimhood and evoke world support. They use them as shields for same reason. Israel give warnings to avoid killing innocents. Hamas threaten to kill innocents who want to leave to be safe. Big difference.
Israel doesn't seek to kill anyone apart from Hamas. But Hamas do. They want residents to stay so they can be killed and then claim victimhood and evoke world support. They use them as shields for same reason. Israel give warnings to avoid killing innocents. Hamas threaten to kill innocents who want to leave to be safe. Big difference.
The ICJ would suggest otherwise, stating that there is a "plausible risk of genocide". There is no doubt risk of genocide and ethnic cleansing, particularly if highly punchable ****nuts like Ben-Gvir get their way, but they probably won't and it's not there yet.
The issue is that people who scream genocide are just not used to seeing urban warfare. It's ****ing brutal. Were the London bombings are war crime / attempted genocide, or war? The Dresden bombings?
I've been of the opinion that the smartest thing that Israel could have done is this; nothing! They had almost the whole world on their side and Hamas would have felt the weight of the world on them for their actions on the day and with regards to the retention of innocent civilians. They'd have been in a state of shock at no response and just released the hostages pretty quickly IMHO.
But we had a right wing Israeli government, so that was never going to happen and Hamas and their puppet masters Iran got their wish from October 7.
I find the timing curious; Bibi was under serious pressure from the masses with regards to his judicial overhaul. The Saudis were getting chummy with Israel too. Get maximum disruption while the right wing nutters are still in charge and get almost the entire Global Arab community (and Greens voters!) protesting in the street against Israel and the Jews. Sadly it's one of the most successful trolls in history IMHO.
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Genocide is not the only war crime. That was a ruling on a specific accusation.
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The truth is that powerful sovereign states like Israel will never face war crimes. No powerful country ever has. So it's a pipe dream to debate these things. I'm not horrified either. Cause and effect.
USA used a false flag to invade Iraq on the premise of WMD which didn't exist
and nothing. USA allegiance with Israel and security council veto power will ensure nothing happens to Israel even if there were identifiable crimes
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Add to that Hiroshima and Nagasaki and Eisenhower death camps as possible war crimes.
Israel has never had blanket world support. Most people fail to understand the geopolitical history and want to support an oppressed underdog ie Palestine. Israel never starts any of these disputes or wars. This time the response is way more than usual but so too the murders.
Trolling is when you verbally bait someone not where you kill 1500 people but yes it was designed to enrage Israel and enlist public support once they responded.
"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome"
I simply don't understand what is hoped to be achieved from terrorist attacks when it is blatantly obvious the outcomes. ....or doesn't that matter? Is it more about keeping the populace angered so that those in power stay in power on the back of support from that anger?
More and more unnecessary deaths. Sad
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Technically, trolling is when you physically bait a hook to a fishing line that you cast from a moving boat. Either metaphor works IMV!
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Two statements.
Both incorrect.
They are not the Government of Palestine.
1500 Israelis weren't killed that day, let alone innocent ones e.g. civilians.
Your analysis is uninformed, therefore worthless.
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I haven't listened to it yet but am told by someone smart that it's interesting, will just drop it in here.
The International Court of Justice found that there was a plausible risk that Israel was committing genocide in Gaza. What should the global response be to the finding, and in particular what should Australia's response be? Could the defunding of UNRWA be seen as collective punishment?
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The International Court of Justice found that there was a plausible risk that Israel was committing genocide in Gaza. What should the global response be to the finding, and in particular what should Australia's response be? Could the defunding of UNRWA be seen as collective punishment?
The ICJ ruling on Israel's actions in Gaza - how should Australia respond? - ABC listen
The International Court of Justice found that there was a plausible risk that Israel was committing genocide in Gaza. What should the global response be to the finding, and in particular what should Australia's response be? Could the defunding of UNRWA be seen as collective punishment? Guests...
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Another thread turned to sh1t by saturation posting by an obsessive idiot.
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I haven't listened to it yet but am told by someone smart that it's interesting, will just drop it in here.
The International Court of Justice found that there was a plausible risk that Israel was committing genocide in Gaza. What should the global response be to the finding, and in particular what should Australia's response be? Could the defunding of UNRWA be seen as collective punishment?
The ICJ ruling on Israel's actions in Gaza - how should Australia respond? - ABC listen
The International Court of Justice found that there was a plausible risk that Israel was committing genocide in Gaza. What should the global response be to the finding, and in particular what should Australia's response be? Could the defunding of UNRWA be seen as collective punishment? Guests...
The word plausible means it to seem reasonable or believable or possible. Therefore the announcement seems to be designed for criminal deterrence at best. If a sovereign state fails to cooperate the absolute best that can happen is the same as MH 17 where four Russians were tried absentia. An absentia sentence is one that won't be enforced..As a state there won't be any consequence either because USA will use it's veto power in UN Security council to defeat any resolution.
The interviewees seemed intent to talk up their powers but lost a bit of impetus when the barrister said they were still investigating 2014 charges for actions by Palestine. So at 2024 a 2014 crime is still in investigative stage..right.
The UNRWA allegations also got a mention.. They were critical of many countries pulling funding for aid by UNRWA because of allegations some staff participated in atrocities against Israel on Oct 7 and added that UNRWA should be allowed complete it's aid despite those allegations.. The suggestion that it would somehow take years to find an replacement organization to fill the role to replace UNRWA is ridiculous..Why would it? independence and benevolence of an aid organization is critical to the role they play.
What should Australia's and global response be to the finding?
DO NOTHING
Toothless findings imo. Because it's premature. Because no enforcement will happen to state. Because there will be no cooperation by state against individuals
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I see you chose the 'wants to go on a rant without understanding much of the facts' option.
I suggest a blog might be better suited for you than a discussion forum.
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Two state solutions have been offered a total of 16 times I understand. None have ever been considered acceptable to Palestine. Why? Because their view is Israel are occupiers and the country of Israel is on Palestinian land. That is the saying ...."from the river to the sea"...Jordan river to Mediterranean Sea. ie they want genocide. The only solution acceptable to Palestine is eradication of Israel entirely. There is no compromise where two countries could live peacefully side by side. That is on Palestine not Israel. Israel just wants to exist and live peacefully as evidence by the peaceful co existence that occurs with Arab Muslims within Israel. Virtually all ME countries that surround them would happily have genocide occur to have Israel cease to exist
What's happening is horrible but entirely predictable when there has never been commitment to peaceful co-existence
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