Toast Warren Tredrea - Elected to the Port Board (Football discussion only)

[Chewy316]

But Koch nonchalantly reiterated that he's contracted and coaching in 2025. Why do you think Hinkley needs to do this?

Because Ken knows that what Koch said had as much value and truth in it as Houston's "I'm not leaving" interview on 5AA a few weeks back.

Ken and CD are also pretty tight as a joint ticket, and to my knowledge CD hasn't told Ken he's safe for 2025 either, so Ken would no doubt be a bit nervous.

It's why the pressure needs to be ramped up on Ken this week by the supporters. Particularly talkback radio.

 

[PA88]

Because he knows people arent happy with him, he is being criticised by people in the media and the industry and he is basically a pants pisser ergo - finals are scarey type comments.

He knows after another terrible finals flop he aint safe. Why else talk about it in his presser?

Because Koch solely can't make that decision and if the rest of the board doesn't agree with him then Ken gets the sack. Ken knows that

OK. I wonder what he's thinking is the likelihood. I reckon he's wanting them to promise him that he's still coach for 2025 which then he wants to know what KPIs he needs to meet before next year's finals to secure an extension, but if he doesn't like the KPIs then he's prepared to dare them to sack him but show him the money!

He may finally be gone.

 

[El_Scorcho]

OK. I wonder what he's thinking is the likelihood. I reckon he's wanting them to promise him that he's still coach for 2025 which then he wants to know what KPIs he needs to meet before next year's finals to secure an extension, but if he doesn't like the KPIs then he's prepared to dare them to sack him but show him the money!

He may finally be gone.

He wants the club to make a quick decision because he knows the club are week and value stability so if they had to make an immediate decision they'd keep him on.

We need to keep the pressure up. Here, twitter, facebook, emailing Matthew Richardson. Even if you usually can't stand using social media or sending emails, now is the time to ratchet up the pressure because it could genuinely matter if a committee member or two are on edge.

 

[El_Scorcho]

Speaking of, anyone know what time Tredders is on the radio on Monday, and how we call in? I wouldn't usually listen to the radio but i'll probably try to call if i'm free.

 

[Addy23]

Speaking of, anyone know what time Tredders is on the radio on Monday, and how we call in? I wouldn't usually listen to the radio but i'll probably try to call if i'm free.

Not sure what time exactly but it's between 4-6pm as that's when Timmy G and Rowey are on but as a note, whoever is calling needs to be very level headed in their chat. Don't raise your voice or sound angry. Present the facts objectively in a strong manner and make them respond to those facts that are against Ken.

If you raise your voice they put you in the "mad" can bucket and don't take you seriously

 

[Doctor Feel]

lol he is just gonna go around again because its the easiest decision for them. Off on holidays they go.

 

[El_Scorcho]

Not sure what time exactly but it's between 4-6pm as that's when Timmy G and Rowey are on but as a note, whoever is calling needs to be very level headed in their chat. Don't raise your voice or sound angry. Present the facts objectively in a strong manner and make them respond to those facts that are against Ken.

If you raise your voice they put you in the "mad" can bucket and don't take you seriously

Absolutely agree.

My points would be simple:

It's very clear at this point that if we'd known what was to transpire over the following 13 months, we wouldn't have extended Hinkley, noting that Tredders wasn't there for that extension.

That the big question mark is finals, and we've been totally non competitive, winning 3 total quarters in our last 6 finals matches. We've won 3 finals in a decade, to win a flag you need at least 3 in 1 month.

Given that, are the club holding true to it's motto that we exist to win Premierships? How can we honestly say we are acting in service of winning premierships if we don't make sweeping changes with that finals record?

 

[ibd77]

Speaking of, anyone know what time Tredders is on the radio on Monday, and how we call in? I wouldn't usually listen to the radio but i'll probably try to call if i'm free.

5.00 to 5.30pm is his normal time slot.
Ph. 08 8223 0000

 

[Duck Farmer]

Absolutely agree.

My points would be simple:

It's very clear at this point that if we'd known what was to transpire over the following 13 months, we wouldn't have extended Hinkley, noting that Tredders wasn't there for that extension.

That the big question mark is finals, and we've been totally non competitive, winning 3 total quarters in our last 6 finals matches. We've won 3 finals in a decade, to win a flag you need at least 3 in 1 month.

Given that, are the club holding true to it's motto that we exist to win Premierships? How can we honestly say we are acting in service of winning premierships if we don't make sweeping changes with that finals record?

After making all of your eloquent points, don't forget to sign off with a Sack Hinkley.

 

[Launchpad McQuack]

Sent a message to Tredrea earlier today. Not sure he'll respond but thought I'd post it here just in case anyone was interested.

Hi Warren,

Apologies for adding to the masses of messages you've probably received in the past 12 hours.

Thank you for your service to our Club as a player, a board member and a supporter. To me, at least, everything you have done is representative of the ethos of our Club.

You know the Creed. You've seen the statement about no-hopers.

I do not recognise this administration or team as Port Adelaide.

I accept that winning a premiership is difficult. That is why our club, not the little battler from Alberton but the only club admitted on the basis of their dominance, has always conducted it's self in a ruthless but fair manner. If winning the premiership this year is not possible then every action to be successful every following year must be taken.

This year is another in the list of unacceptable performances. The list grows but for me the primary ones have been:
-pathetic and insulting performance in the Russell Ebert tribute
-2017 overtime home EF loss to West Coast in 2017
-2021 home PF against a Bulldogs side that had nearly every logistical hurdle
-2023 finals straight sets exit
-2024 home QF and away PF loss

We have had 12 years of Ken Hinkley. I have to type "Ken" because my phone's dictionary doesn't contain Ken and I've been so convinced every year for the past 7 years would be his last I've never added it.

Twelve years has seen every facet of the football department change bar one. The senior coach. We see the same failures in every list under his charge.

I live in Disneyland I would attend every single game up to the end of 2019, taking leave and travelling over 69 hours each way to do so. I've financially sponsored players via Bigfooty Port board player sponsorships. I would spend over dollarydoos annually on club merchandise. This all ceased after 2019, another failed year where the Club's CEO fell on his sword to protect dear Kenny. Casual Keith died for Hinkley's sins.

We have lost 21 of our last 24 quarters of final football. This year would have been another straight sets exit but for the width of a goal post in the SF.

Hinkley holds the AFL record for games coached without a GF appearance. His win record is lauded in comparison to Mark Williams, despite Mark coaching to two GFs and winning one flag. Williams is still criticised for underachieving on our 2001-2004 regular season dominance. Hinkley now holds the record for games coached for our Club at AFL level.

These are facts that point to Hinkley never being a premiership winning coach. He will need to buck the entire history of the VFL/AFL to do so.

As a supporter and member of the Club I feel insulted when the media and our own Administration gaslight and denigrate us when we dare to question or complain about this failure that has been here for twelve years. If I hear one more person ask who are we going to get, my head will explode. This mentality has seen us miss out on Craig McRae

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and Adam Kingsley

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in the past four years.

In my opinion the club needs an external review and extensive external search for better candidates in many positions. The persistent internally appointments have not worked and are poor practise.

It seems that Josh Carr

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has been ordained as the next coach in waiting. While I don't agree with an automatic appointment, at this point anything is better than the status quo.

Hinkley's position is untenable. It was a good call then and it is a great call now. Clean out the no-hopers.

Yours sincerely,

 

[Shaucob_Burjan]

How on earth did Cassisi get on the footy committee and bypass everything to be a board member in waiting?

 

[PA88]

How on earth did Cassisi get on the footy committee and bypass everything to be a board member in waiting?

Because he's easily led, toes the line, drinks the club's Kool-Aid.

 

[PJ Power]

Sent a message to Tredrea earlier today. Not sure he'll respond but thought I'd post it here just in case anyone was interested.

Fantastic. Can you modify a tiny bit to remove the references to Tredrea and distribute it more widely?

All of your points are excellent, based on fact and straight to the heart of it.

 

[Macca_1870]

Speaking of, anyone know what time Tredders is on the radio on Monday, and how we call in? I wouldn't usually listen to the radio but i'll probably try to call if i'm free.

I always hear him on the drive home, mid segment (5:15pm). Unsure if this is live or a replay though.

 

[PowerLil]

I always hear him on the drive home, mid segment (5:15pm). Unsure if this is live or a replay though.

He's normally in the studio and you can watch the live stream.

 

[EskimoPAFC]

Would you prefer him to tee off in public as a radio shock jock or instead to have a nuanced conversation with the other decision makers of the Club?

One makes you feel good temporarily because he would no doubt say what we all are thinking. The other one however actually brings about the opportunity for real change.

At this point, tee the **** off.

 

[PAFC66]

It's on YouTube live , they have 5aa up there daily

 

[Duck Farmer]

Koch is trapped in an abusive relationship with Hinkley and needs some help.

Warren, if you're reading this please stage an intervention.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

From what I've gathered from Chewy316 posts, it's not Warren specifically you need to direct comments to, it's the public forum of talkback radio, be that AA or MMM (they have a morning show with football people at least).

I think Warren is onside and his is a singular preaching to the choir sounding board. The message has to be wider, clear and coherent.

Make Tim G and cRowie talk about it, get them to make a stand one way or the other and see if they can provide any sort of defence if they choose to.

 

[Launchpad McQuack]

Fantastic. Can you modify a tiny bit to remove the references to Tredrea and distribute it more widely?

All of your points are excellent, based on fact and straight to the heart of it.

I'll send it to Richardson but the only social media I really use is Twitter and the message would be lost in the character limit.

 

[Chewy316]

Speaking of, anyone know what time Tredders is on the radio on Monday, and how we call in? I wouldn't usually listen to the radio but i'll probably try to call if i'm free.

You can actually call 5AA at the start of the show around 4pm, tell them you want to speak to Tredders about what's going on with Hinkley etc, and they will then call you back when the segment starts.

From what I've gathered from Chewy316 posts, it's not Warren specifically you need to direct comments to, it's the public forum of talkback radio, be that AA or MMM (they have a morning show with football people at least).

I think Warren is onside and his is a singular preaching to the choir sounding board. The message has to be wider, clear and coherent.

Make Tim G and cRowie talk about it, get them to make a stand one way or the other and see if they can provide any sort of defence if they choose to.

One reason to continue spamming the shit out of Warren's inbox is so he can relay it back to the footy committee and the Board as a member-elected Director as to the sentiment of the fan base.

I would suggest if you're going to contact Warren though, do it via talkback radio on 5AA. At least you can put him in a bind and force him to make an acknowledgement of certain situations, as the omission of certain comments may be just as important in this instance as what actually comes out of his mouth.

I would also put pressure on Timmy G on talkback. He has privately wanted Hinkley gone for years, but has lacked the balls to stand up and say anything on radio. Heck, he had a panic attack just at the thought of potentially publicly endorsing his own radio team mate (Warren) for the Board over Abernethy earlier this year.

I'll send it to Richardson but the only social media I really use is Twitter and the message would be lost in the character limit.

Send it to Cos Cardone, Rob Snowdon and CD as well.

 

[Peninsula Boy]

From what I've gathered from Chewy316 posts, it's not Warren specifically you need to direct comments to, it's the public forum of talkback radio, be that AA or MMM (they have a morning show with football people at least).

I think Warren is onside and his is a singular preaching to the choir sounding board. The message has to be wider, clear and coherent.

Make Tim G and cRowie talk about it, get them to make a stand one way or the other and see if they can provide any sort of defence if they choose to.

I'm not trying to kill the messenger here but if that is the way to change, Hinkley will be running the club for another decade.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

I'm not trying to kill the messenger here but if that is the way to change, Hinkley will be running the club for another decade.

You have to play the same media game as Hinkley. He circles the wagons to protect his job, you have to provide alternative evidence that the supporters/members are done.

It's part of a strategic picture, it's not the only strategy.

 

[Kenny_Powers]

You have to play the same media game as Hinkley. He circles the wagons to protect his job, you have to provide alternative evidence that the supporters/members are done.

It's part of a strategic picture, it's not the only strategy.

This Ford, clear concise objective evidence, of which there is a truckload, as to why he's not fit to continue wasting years and talent.

The 21 out of 24 lost finals qtrs under Ken is a great start.

Even listening to Kingy and relaying his points re Hinkleys tactics and game-plan.



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[StrappingTape]

From what I've gathered from Chewy316 posts, it's not Warren specifically you need to direct comments to, it's the public forum of talkback radio, be that AA or MMM (they have a morning show with football people at least).

I think Warren is onside and his is a singular preaching to the choir sounding board. The message has to be wider, clear and coherent.

Make Tim G and cRowie talk about it, get them to make a stand one way or the other and see if they can provide any sort of defence if they choose to.

Its just another bizarre take though that to convince the board members at this point to make a change, your average punters that they've ignored for close a decade now need to make noise on local radio and random x DMs.

I mean I dunno the factual weight of over a decade of evidence not enough? Losing by 80+ in a home qually and failing in finals again not the right evidence? But some randoms ringing up 5AA well hold the bus I've got an emergency board meeting to get to to present this evidence, we need to act!!