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I don’t think the league has seen even half of what this guy could be just yet.
Welcome Welcome to Hawthorn : Nick 'the Wizard' Watson! Rising star Nom!
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Yeah it feels like he is about to go up about ten notches. You knew it was all there but now his set shots are looking better…That bulldogs final …he owned the shit out of that game along with Dear. Funnest time at the footy in years
So if he has elite traits that were evident from his performances during the season and that indicate he will be a superstar, why does a player with marginally better stats but nothing to indicate he will be a superstar get ranked higher in the award? Why bother having a panel of experts vote, when AI could choose the winner in a split second using champion data? Is it a rising star award or a rising fair average player with good stats award? Maybe it should be rebadged as "young player with the best numbers award" and stop pretending that it has anything to do with a rising star.
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Devils advocate - doesn’t Rising Star require a great game to be nominated in the first place? If he is not nominated then the stats become irrelevant don’t they?
It really was an exclamation point on the year they had that they managed to perform like that.
Two first year forwards borderline dominating in a final?
Had never seen it till this game.
The way it works is that there is a nomination each round. Players don't get nominated twice. You don't need a great game - just the best game of the eligible candidates. A run of decent games may even get you up over an eligible candidate who had a better game but not as part of a run.
Watson was nominated in round 19.
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Don’t focus on the name too much, it is essentially an award for the best first year player with a few exceptions.
Watson has a lot of elite traits but he fell short in some areas that I don’t think he will continue to struggle with long term. That is why I think he will be elite but was not in year 1.
Simply just a better conversion rate would have been enough to push up the rankings.
If you want to comment on how useless of an award it is you will get no disagreement from me, which is why I don’t get the constant crying over it.
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Would those traits that you saw last year, in your opinion, put him in the top ten of players of the rising star nominees? Or do you rate him outside that group?
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I would have a clear two or three from last year and think you can throw a blanket over the rest. He is under that blanket.
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The fact that he didn't deserve any votes, apparently.
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He was nominated and in the game against north they were talking him up as a real chance of actually winning it. That was probably the point where we should have known he had no chance. But he was nominated, I think in round 19.
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Body of work vs potential. They are not the same
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I’m a hawthorn fan.
It’s also less about the judges decision and criticising the need to bring it up all the time. I have ignored them plenty of times. This time I gave my opinion, as others have.
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Body of work only affected by conversion. If he converted early he would have been right up there for rising star. Can’t wait to see him this year
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Couldn’t agree more, number 1 reason I’m excited for this season. Going to be an absolute pleasure to watch!
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Right up there, and zero votes, are worlds apart.
Everyone is focused on his sizzle but most are missing how much steak he brings to the table.
Put two footys in the air and he might have to.
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