Western Region Football League team (Part 1)

[foxxy]

Re: Western Region Football League team

The top six teams are obviously spending big money and the results are being shown on the ladder positions.
IMO this is what I am to believe that the clubs are spending

Hoppers 110k would have been up around the 130k a few years ago
Colts 90k always around the same mark
Spotty 80k increased this year
Saints 75k always around the same mark
Albion 70k goes up and down from year to year
Sunshine 70k always around the same mark
YSE 55k being a bit conservative considering it is a merged club
Glenorden 50 k needs to build, a big increase compared to the years in Div2
Altona 40k needs to build and get out of the Div2 mentality
Parkside 40k big drop and this shows on the ladder

There you go, spend big and the dividends pay off. You have to spend money to make money and if your club is successful on the ground then you will be successful off the ground. More people will come and watch the games which brings more money to the club through bar and canteen sales. Supporters will want to be involved at the club and then sponsors get on board as there is a greater number of people to have exposure of the sponsor.

Biggest improver this year from last year is Spotty and it is obvious with spending more money. Behind Spotty is Albion, first time in finals for 21 years, recruited heavily and spent more money. Biggest disappointment this year is Parkside and this year they dropped the money they wanted to spend and their position dropped also.

Seems pretty straight forward here, everything is relative to each other. Whilst some people will get on here and defend what their clubs are spending, there is no change in the order of spending and this is shown where clubs have finished on the ladder compared to the previous year

 

[Lopburi]

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julier the best ruckman going round in wrfl him and broadbent must not play well against yarraville?????????????

Never said he wasn't a good player mate, would never argue that. But with the star studded team that Port has i'm very surprised he's ranked second at this stage in the B n F. Know for a fact he was carrying a little extra weight and didn't think he looked as fit at the start of the year (which was very early in the season). Thought there were probably a few more damaging players that would have ranked higher them him, but good luck to them.

 

[Lopburi]

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Hoppers 110k would have been up around the 130k a few years ago
Colts 90k always around the same mark
Spotty 80k increased this year
Saints 75k always around the same mark
Albion 70k goes up and down from year to year
Sunshine 70k always around the same mark
YSE 55k being a bit conservative considering it is a merged club
Glenorden 50 k needs to build, a big increase compared to the years in Div2
Altona 40k needs to build and get out of the Div2 mentality
Parkside 40k big drop and this shows on the ladder

Not to mention all the benefits the Port players get on the side in terms of jobs. Heard they get looked after very well.
Where'd you get your info on Yarra by the way?

 

[elephant]

Re: Western Region Football League team

The top six teams are obviously spending big money and the results are being shown on the ladder positions.
IMO this is what I am to believe that the clubs are spending

Hoppers 110k would have been up around the 130k a few years ago
Colts 90k always around the same mark
Spotty 80k increased this year
Saints 75k always around the same mark
Albion 70k goes up and down from year to year
Sunshine 70k always around the same mark
YSE 55k being a bit conservative considering it is a merged club
Glenorden 50 k needs to build, a big increase compared to the years in Div2
Altona 40k needs to build and get out of the Div2 mentality
Parkside 40k big drop and this shows on the ladder

There you go, spend big and the dividends pay off. You have to spend money to make money and if your club is successful on the ground then you will be successful off the ground. More people will come and watch the games which brings more money to the club through bar and canteen sales. Supporters will want to be involved at the club and then sponsors get on board as there is a greater number of people to have exposure of the sponsor.

Biggest improver this year from last year is Spotty and it is obvious with spending more money. Behind Spotty is Albion, first time in finals for 21 years, recruited heavily and spent more money. Biggest disappointment this year is Parkside and this year they dropped the money they wanted to spend and their position dropped also.

Seems pretty straight forward here, everything is relative to each other. Whilst some people will get on here and defend what their clubs are spending, there is no change in the order of spending and this is shown where clubs have finished on the ladder compared to the previous year

Hhaha, sunshine and albion pay the same coin?? Albion have 18 recruits playing for them this year! albion would be paying more than hoppers!

oh and ray jenson used to wear a leather glove when he played for altona juniors, so he has always been tough.

 

[grover06]

Re: Western Region Football League team

The top six teams are obviously spending big money and the results are being shown on the ladder positions.
IMO this is what I am to believe that the clubs are spending

Hoppers 110k would have been up around the 130k a few years ago
Colts 90k always around the same mark
Spotty 80k increased this year
Saints 75k always around the same mark
Albion 70k goes up and down from year to year
Sunshine 70k always around the same mark
YSE 55k being a bit conservative considering it is a merged club
Glenorden 50 k needs to build, a big increase compared to the years in Div2
Altona 40k needs to build and get out of the Div2 mentality
Parkside 40k big drop and this shows on the ladder

There you go, spend big and the dividends pay off. You have to spend money to make money and if your club is successful on the ground then you will be successful off the ground. More people will come and watch the games which brings more money to the club through bar and canteen sales. Supporters will want to be involved at the club and then sponsors get on board as there is a greater number of people to have exposure of the sponsor.

Biggest improver this year from last year is Spotty and it is obvious with spending more money. Behind Spotty is Albion, first time in finals for 21 years, recruited heavily and spent more money. Biggest disappointment this year is Parkside and this year they dropped the money they wanted to spend and their position dropped also.

Seems pretty straight forward here, everything is relative to each other. Whilst some people will get on here and defend what their clubs are spending, there is no change in the order of spending and this is shown where clubs have finished on the ladder compared to the previous year

nice post, i wouldnt have a clue on club spending so im taking your word for it, however i dont think yarra spent even that much this year. i hope they kept receits if we still finished second last haha no we did finish the year with a ridiculous amount of injuries goin round so not much could be expected and the st albans win still a great effort.

like to hear from blokes from port, spotty, sunshine hoppers bout trainers. we all know good players bring results but im a believer in trainers being underrated massively, noticed against spotty etc etc that you guys have the same trainers, waterboys everytime we play you. would you agree that a good team of support staff off and on the ground help to keep your side focused and ready before games and just help in the smooth running of putting a successful team on the field? i think it goes a long way to winning?

 

[Lopburi]

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nice post, i wouldnt have a clue on club spending so im taking your word for it, however i dont think yarra spent even that much this year. i hope they kept receits if we still finished second last haha no we did finish the year with a ridiculous amount of injuries goin round so not much could be expected and the st albans win still a great effort.

like to hear from blokes from port, spotty, sunshine hoppers bout trainers. we all know good players bring results but im a believer in trainers being underrated massively, noticed against spotty etc etc that you guys have the same trainers, waterboys everytime we play you. would you agree that a good team of support staff off and on the ground help to keep your side focused and ready before games and just help in the smooth running of putting a successful team on the field? i think it goes a long way to winning?

Yeh Grover completely agree wit you here mate. Having a bit of continuity and consistency goes a long way in the football world both on and off the field. You need to get these things in place before you can expect a side to develop professionalism.

 

[ROCK07]

Re: Western Region Football League team

The top six teams are obviously spending big money and the results are being shown on the ladder positions.
IMO this is what I am to believe that the clubs are spending

Hoppers 110k would have been up around the 130k a few years ago
Colts 90k always around the same mark
Spotty 80k increased this year
Saints 75k always around the same mark
Albion 70k goes up and down from year to year
Sunshine 70k always around the same mark
YSE 55k being a bit conservative considering it is a merged club
Glenorden 50 k needs to build, a big increase compared to the years in Div2
Altona 40k needs to build and get out of the Div2 mentality
Parkside 40k big drop and this shows on the ladder

There you go, spend big and the dividends pay off. You have to spend money to make money and if your club is successful on the ground then you will be successful off the ground. More people will come and watch the games which brings more money to the club through bar and canteen sales. Supporters will want to be involved at the club and then sponsors get on board as there is a greater number of people to have exposure of the sponsor.

Biggest improver this year from last year is Spotty and it is obvious with spending more money. Behind Spotty is Albion, first time in finals for 21 years, recruited heavily and spent more money. Biggest disappointment this year is Parkside and this year they dropped the money they wanted to spend and their position dropped also.

Seems pretty straight forward here, everything is relative to each other. Whilst some people will get on here and defend what their clubs are spending, there is no change in the order of spending and this is shown where clubs have finished on the ladder compared to the previous year

i believe we are now closer to spending 250k but if we win the grand final we get a 50k bonus.................keep dreaming buddy it's around the 60k mark but with injuries more like 55k but believe what you want.

As for players being disgruntled about the votes, that's abit of the mark,we all have ego's and like to be appreciated but at the end of the day it's just 3 or 4 guys opinions but you personaly should now if you have done well or not and i think the top 5 are about right the only one that should be complaining is MATTHEW DIDGE BURNS the poor abbo couldn't manage a vote in the first 13 rounds.As i said we had our best session of the year last nite,a postive attitude from all and almost a full list to choose from just masis out for 1 more week.........

 

[Lopburi]

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i believe we are now closer to spending 250k but if we win the grand final we get a 50k bonus.................keep dreaming buddy it's around the 60k mark but with injuries more like 55k but believe what you want.

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Am i wrong to believe you hook blokes up with sweet jobs and give them some very handy added bonuses to come play for Port that might not show up on the officialy budget? You kidding everyone if you try tell us you've attracted all these big names blokes to the league just to chase a GF. Not a chance. Some of these guys would be on big bucks everywhere else.

 

[saints]

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Am i wrong to believe you hook blokes up with sweet jobs and give them some very handy added bonuses to come play for Port that might not show up on the officialy budget? You kidding everyone if you try tell us you've attracted all these big names blokes to the league just to chase a GF. Not a chance. Some of these guys would be on big bucks everywhere else.

At the end of your career you want to look back and say to your kids i was involved in "x" amount of premierships, not i was paid "x" amount of money but didnt win any premierships. Most if not all the players at the colts would rather team success (3rd premiership in a row) than getting a little pocket money. Alot of the guys have good jobs and get paid well so dont need to hold clubs for ransom, which is what a lot of players do.

 

[chest]

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At the end of your career you want to look back and say to your kids i was involved in "x" amount of premierships, not i was paid "x" amount of money but didnt win any premierships. Most if not all the players at the colts would rather team success (3rd premiership in a row) than getting a little pocket money. Alot of the guys have good jobs and get paid well so dont need to hold clubs for ransom, which is what a lot of players do.

Firstly unless you see the receits and books of a club, no one has a clue what clubs are spending so trying to estimate is fine but not sure about the rest.
I am sure some of the port boys get looked after job wise but that is no different to any other club. A few players at yarra got some nice council jobs because of one of the administrators.
Also am not sure on the figure quoted at Albion. We all know Terry Cooper ponds a lot of money into that club and 70k, the same as sunshine you must be joking. I would say closer to 100k but once again am guessing.
Lastly players playing for premiership glory is great in theory but really we must be niave to think this is the only reason. We all know there are added bonuses on top of clubs. Clubs do breed sucess but yes every year they must top up on players, for example tell me Saul Caddy plays for the love of the game..... Once again there is nothing wrong with paying players but guessing what they are being played is a little silly as we do not know. Am sure coaches and committee people will know but if we a re not thee people then let it be I say..............
Yarra spent 47k this year, yes have seen the books and this figure is correct but they had about 64k to spend but Keogh could not get players........... Reputation is a big thing

 

[thesilkmeister]

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just sent you a PM Chest.....keep your eye out for it.

 

[cougarman]

Re: Western Region Football League team

The top six teams are obviously spending big money and the results are being shown on the ladder positions.
IMO this is what I am to believe that the clubs are spending

Hoppers 110k would have been up around the 130k a few years ago
Colts 90k always around the same mark
Spotty 80k increased this year
Saints 75k always around the same mark
Albion 70k goes up and down from year to year
Sunshine 70k always around the same mark
YSE 55k being a bit conservative considering it is a merged club
Glenorden 50 k needs to build, a big increase compared to the years in Div2
Altona 40k needs to build and get out of the Div2 mentality
Parkside 40k big drop and this shows on the ladder

There you go, spend big and the dividends pay off. You have to spend money to make money and if your club is successful on the ground then you will be successful off the ground. More people will come and watch the games which brings more money to the club through bar and canteen sales. Supporters will want to be involved at the club and then sponsors get on board as there is a greater number of people to have exposure of the sponsor.

Biggest improver this year from last year is Spotty and it is obvious with spending more money. Behind Spotty is Albion, first time in finals for 21 years, recruited heavily and spent more money. Biggest disappointment this year is Parkside and this year they dropped the money they wanted to spend and their position dropped also.

Seems pretty straight forward here, everything is relative to each other. Whilst some people will get on here and defend what their clubs are spending, there is no change in the order of spending and this is shown where clubs have finished on the ladder compared to the previous year

rock can i get a pay rise please, if we're paying 90k i think i'm being robbed with my payments

 

[ROCK07]

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i believe we are now closer to spending 250k but if we win the grand final we get a 50k bonus.................keep dreaming buddy it's around the 60k mark but with injuries more like 55k but believe what you want.

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Am i wrong to believe you hook blokes up with sweet jobs and give them some very handy added bonuses to come play for Port that might not show up on the officialy budget? You kidding everyone if you try tell us you've attracted all these big names blokes to the league just to chase a GF. Not a chance. Some of these guys would be on big bucks everywhere else.

Who are the big names?????caddy came mid year last year after a fall out from his previous club and wasn't paid that much and decided to stay after he enjoyed it so much and i wouldn't be surprised if he stayed again,even though he gets bigger offers elsewhere and lindsay is back to a place where he is a triple bnf winner and premiership player and chisnal also had bigger offers elsewhere but settled where he has some good mates but he also played juniors at the colts before moving to corowa

 

[ROCK07]

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At the end of the day whatever clubs pay is up to them,there is no cap and if clubs can afford it then good luck to them.
There are plenty of players out there who are overpaid and if they can get it then good luck to them.
At port colts we could not afford a budget of 90k as i said it's around 60k and then we are hopefully of making enough money through out the year to cover this budget and over the last two years we have been able to do this.Some of you may recall that in 2002 we finished second last this was the due to the fact that we were unable to pay the big bucks of the previous few years and had alot of players leave this was because one person was throwing in a heap of $$$$ and also had sponsors on board with him and once he left the club suffered and since that year the club has vowed not to go down the same path ever again,we try to keep a budget that we will have no problems meeting no matter if there is a white knight around to chuck in some extra $$$$$$ or not,i hope this puts a few minds at rest,but as i said if a club can afford it good luck.......

 

[Lopburi]

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Who are the big names?????caddy came mid year last year after a fall out from his previous club and wasn't paid that much and decided to stay after he enjoyed it so much and i wouldn't be surprised if he stayed again,even though he gets bigger offers elsewhere and lindsay is back to a place where he is a triple bnf winner and premiership player and chisnal also had bigger offers elsewhere but settled where he has some good mates but he also played juniors at the colts before moving to corowa

Whatever mate, we all know the rumours of what happens behind closed doors at Port. And i'm only calling these rumours only for the simple fact that i hate to accuse people of anything, but i'm pretty close this time. So what attracted Caddy to the club in the first place?

 

[Micka Morris]

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i believe we are now closer to spending 250k but if we win the grand final we get a 50k bonus.................keep dreaming buddy it's around the 60k mark but with injuries more like 55k but believe what you want.

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Am i wrong to believe you hook blokes up with sweet jobs and give them some very handy added bonuses to come play for Port that might not show up on the officialy budget? You kidding everyone if you try tell us you've attracted all these big names blokes to the league just to chase a GF. Not a chance. Some of these guys would be on big bucks everywhere else.

State what you mean by sweet jobs? which big name recruit has got a job from playing with the colts? None that I know of. My best mate pays the bills and Rock is on the money, maybe a couple of k short.
Also a lot of the recruits come to the colts via friends & family at the colts or in Port...ie Julier, Chisnall, McGregor & Whitmar (who has played one game)...we were a club that 2 years ago was in a bit of debt so there is no way we would be paying the money you are talking about!

 

[obe1]

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So what attracted Caddy to the club in the first place?

An oppurtunity for a fresh start with no strings attached.

It has been posted many times, that once you are welcomed at the Colts it is a hard place to leave. Not only has Saul stayed , his brother also plays with the club and his father and younger sibling attend most games.

Believe what you like regarding the rest, a clubs budget is their own business. Rock has posted many times what our's is and the fact we are well within it.

 

[future29]

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State what you mean by sweet jobs? which big name recruit has got a job from playing with the colts? None that I know of. My best mate pays the bills and Rock is on the money, maybe a couple of k short.
Also a lot of the recruits come to the colts via friends & family at the colts or in Port...ie Julier, Chisnall, McGregor & Whitmar (who has played one game)...we were a club that 2 years ago was in a bit of debt so there is no way we would be paying the money you are talking about!

why has whitmar only played one game injury???

 

[ROCK07]

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Le's talk footy anyone know how hoppers are looking for this weeks game ?? i have heard reynolds will not be there and fonua hurt his shoulder and the ruckmen bekker might not be there.
We will have all available except masis,we can't wait to come up against our arch enemy in the finals especially after last years granny and the weather should be perfect.....
Cabs how's your side looking,i still think you guys should win even if conor,davis and acreman don't play,but i'm sure albion will put up a good show.
Any albion care to say how there list is looking?????????
Good luck to all this week and hopefully you get through injury free.
GO COLTS.................

 

[13-CABS]

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We are looking good at the moment. No doubt the loss of Connor, whos leading our goal kicking, Davis and Akers are big losses, but we have the depth to cover them. Got 4 back in this week, so there are going to be some dissapointed guys who prob have claims to a spot that will miss out.
Had a good session last night, and have been training the house down lately without seeing the results on saturday. Hopefully we can put it all together this week. Know Dixon will be back in for Albion, possibly Tazzie who has missed a few so will be interesting to see how they line up.

 

[Micka Morris]

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why has whitmar only played one game injury???

correct.

 

[Lopburi]

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Hey everybody that is playing finals (and i guess those not playing as well) just wanna know which ground would be your ideal GF venue?
Yarra, Chirnside, Whitten?
Personally i think Yarraville is a good ground for finals becasue it has a good atmosphere, a great playing surface, and a local football environment. Negative would be the rooms, but in terms of local footy culture you couldn't go plast this place.

Opinions?

 

[Lopburi]

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State what you mean by sweet jobs? which big name recruit has got a job from playing with the colts? None that I know of. My best mate pays the bills and Rock is on the money, maybe a couple of k short.
Also a lot of the recruits come to the colts via friends & family at the colts or in Port...ie Julier, Chisnall, McGregor & Whitmar (who has played one game)...we were a club that 2 years ago was in a bit of debt so there is no way we would be paying the money you are talking about!

It doesn't matter then mate, it's all the business of a football club at the end of the day. I guess it doesn't make anymore difference then having a high budget. I'm not gonna get into the politics of a club becasue i think this forum can be used for better things such as discussing the finals this week.
What an exciting time for those clubs involved, and also it will be interesting to see who comes up from division two. My tip is West Footscray, this weeks game b/w Heights will be great. Hopefully West come through, only down fall is there terrible ground haha.

 

[future29]

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correct.

must have been a few big injuries? is he staying at colts next year

 

[SCARFACE]

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Whatever mate, we all know the rumours of what happens behind closed doors at Port. And i'm only calling these rumours only for the simple fact that i hate to accuse people of anything, but i'm pretty close this time. So what attracted Caddy to the club in the first place?

Mate u are a dead set w***er